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Telamon May 17th 04 06:17 AM

In article ,
N8KDV wrote:

Dan wrote:

On 16 May 2004 20:10:55 GMT, ocom (Michael Bryant)
wrote:

The consenus among reputable scientists on greenhouse warming is
overwhelming.


Only if you define "reputable scientists" as "those who believe in
greenhouse warming".


And in MWB's world, those are the only scientists there are.


He just dreams of a warmer and wetter climate better for pot growing.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon May 17th 04 06:22 AM

In article ,
ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote:

From: Dan


On 17 May 2004 01:29:00 GMT,
ocom (Michael Bryant)
wrote:

The consensus of research supports global warming. The research that
doesn't

is
usually tied to oil companies. You figure it out.


Interesting how you "know" that " The research that doesn't is
usually tied to oil companies", yet you don't seem to know who is
paying for the "The consensus of research supports global warming"


I spent a whole year researching the topic when it was the intercollegiate
debate topic. As DiverDan's earlier post pointed out, the vast majority of
related scientists have agreed that the link is overwhelming. Research
supporting the link comes from a variety of sources, mainly regular funding
sources drawn from institutional basic research budgets. The research denying
the links is primarily funded by oil companies.


You are a complete fabricating lier. More than a year ago there was no
conclusive data that showed the global temperature going up so how could
any research last year have that conclusion. What a lier.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon May 17th 04 06:23 AM

In article ,
ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote:

From:
(Diverd4777)

- Can you Please Provide us with a list of Scientists ( Sans Bible
Beaters )

Who Do NOT believe in Global Warming

Please... Name Some Names..


There are many, though not nearly the same number that support that
CO2 emissions are increasing global temperatures. Close scrutiny will
reveal that most of the scientists denying global warning have their
research funded by groups that want to deny the connection,ie, oil
companies and business groups.


Well you lie about everything so where do you get your money from?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

RHF May 17th 04 10:38 AM

MWB,

? Consensus ?

The Majority View Point ? {A Opinion 'held' by the Majority ?}

Most Americans 'believe' in "A God" !
- MWB - Do You Recognize and Respect their Consensus ?
- What Say You MWB ? - Let it be a simple "Yes" or "No".

Most Americans 'love' their Country "America" {Our Homeland} !
- MWB - Do You Recognize and Respect their Consensus ?
- What Say You MWB ? - Let it be a simple "Yes" or "No".

MWB - Do You just simply pick and choose only those "Consensuses"
that 'fit' your One World Liberal ELITIST Socialist Views ? ? ? ?

MWB - Can You simply be Honest and Admit:
- That Your Personal View Point is "One World"
[ Vice 'being' an American First. ]
- That You are a Liberal.
- That You are an Elitist.
- That You are basically a Socialist (Ultra-Liberal-Democrat}.
MWB - Let Your Answers be a simple "Yes" or "No".

What Say You MWB? - America - Nay, The World Awaits Your Answers MWB !

I Want To Know ~ RHF
..
..
= = = ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote in message
= = = ...
From: Dan


Of course, the scientists who believe in global warming have *no* axes
to grind, right? All of them are pure and true, right? Who is
paying for *their* research?


Why don't you tell us? Rich liberals?

Corruption in scientific research goes both ways, and it's extremely
disingenuous of you (at best) to imply otherwise.


The consensus of research supports global warming. The research that doesn't is
usually tied to oil companies. You figure it out.




Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
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RHF May 17th 04 10:41 AM

MWB,

? Consensus ?

The Majority View Point ? {A Opinion 'held' by the Majority ?}

Most Americans 'believe' in "A God" !
- MWB - Do You Recognize and Respect their Consensus ?
- What Say You MWB ? - Let it be a simple "Yes" or "No".

Most Americans 'love' their Country "America" {Our Homeland} !
- MWB - Do You Recognize and Respect their Consensus ?
- What Say You MWB ? - Let it be a simple "Yes" or "No".

MWB - Do You just simply pick and choose only those "Consensuses"
that 'fit' your One World Liberal ELITIST Socialist Views ? ? ? ?

MWB - Can You simply be Honest and Admit:
- That Your Personal View Point is "One World"
[ Vice 'being' an American First. ]
- That You are a Liberal.
- That You are an Elitist.
- That You are basically a Socialist (Ultra-Liberal-Democrat}.
MWB - Let Your Answers be a simple "Yes" or "No".

What Say You MWB? - America - Nay, The World Awaits Your Answers MWB !

I Want To Know ~ RHF
..
..
= = = ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote in message
= = = ...
From: Dan


Of course, the scientists who believe in global warming have *no* axes
to grind, right? All of them are pure and true, right? Who is
paying for *their* research?


Why don't you tell us? Rich liberals?

Corruption in scientific research goes both ways, and it's extremely
disingenuous of you (at best) to imply otherwise.


The consensus of research supports global warming. The research that doesn't is
usually tied to oil companies. You figure it out.




Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)


Diverd4777 May 17th 04 12:04 PM

There is no " Proof" in this kind of Science,
only a " Working Hypootheses"
Here's a web site you might like;

a voice for Business in the Global Warming Debate"

http://www.globalclimate.org/

Dan / NYC

In article ,
Telamon writes:

Subject: [ OT ] Is our climate nearing the tipping point?
From: Telamon
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 05:11:14 GMT

In article , John Barnard
wrote:

It's not the man-made energy output that is directly causing the
problem. It is the man-made greenhouse gas emissions that are the
problem. CO2 emissions are causing the atmosphere to behave somewhat
as a two-way mirror in that energy can still get in easily enough but
re-radiation from earth back into space decreases. It doesn't take
much of an increase in CO2 levels to decrease the rate of
re-radiation.


snip

The problem is most man-made energy generates CO2 and some people who
think to simplistically think the atmospheric increase is due to man.
This is unproven.

Also unproven is that the increase in CO2 will cause global
temperatures.

Earth climate is a very complex system where a change in one variable
will not necessarily force the system in one direction. Just because the
CO2 is going up does not mean global temperatures will rise.

If you are willing to jump to conclusions like the King of Trolls has
on this newsgroup then be my guest.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California




Diverd4777 May 17th 04 03:41 PM

C'mon Tel:
Your an intelligent man..

- Give us some DATA supporting
your contention of
" Global Warming Is a Leftist Liberal Tax And Spend Media Hoax, Corrupting the
Morals Of Our Youth"
- or whatever..
Giv us a link to
JUST ONE ARTICLE supporting the
"No Global Warming" viewpoint ( Sans Bible Beaters.)

Just one..
Thanks

Dan / NYC

( Watching the Hamptons Wash Away... )

From: (Diverd4777)


- Can you Please Provide us with a list of Scientists ( Sans Bible
Beaters )

Who Do NOT believe in Global Warming

Please... Name Some Names..


There are many, though not nearly the same number that support that
CO2 emissions are increasing global temperatures. Close scrutiny will
reveal that most of the scientists denying global warning have their
research funded by groups that want to deny the connection,ie, oil
companies and business groups.


Well you lie about everything so where do you get your money from?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California









Michael Bryant May 17th 04 08:04 PM

From: Dan

Though I understand that his pharmacological research credentials are
outstanding!


Not as good as yours, however.


I can guarantee you that Rush's pharmacological research skills far exceed my
own!


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

N8KDV May 17th 04 08:06 PM



Michael 'My daddy was a Klansman' Bryant wrote:

From: Dan


Though I understand that his pharmacological research credentials are
outstanding!


Not as good as yours, however.


I can guarantee you that Rush's pharmacological research skills far exceed my
own!


You are in no position to guarantee anything, liar boy.


Michael Bryant May 17th 04 08:07 PM

From: (Diverd4777)

C'mon Tel:
Your an intelligent man..


I used to think that, also. His latest posts suggest a recent lobotomy.


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)


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