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Old June 29th 04, 07:28 AM
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Does the encoder part for the Drake R8B include the shaft that the tuning
knob sits on, or is the encoder simply a component in the radio separate
from the shaft?


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Old June 29th 04, 01:04 PM
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mike0219116 wrote:

Does the encoder part for the Drake R8B include the shaft that the tuning
knob sits on, or is the encoder simply a component in the radio separate
from the shaft?


The encoder includes the shaft.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B




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Old June 30th 04, 12:18 AM
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Thanks, Steve.

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mike0219116 wrote:

Does the encoder part for the Drake R8B include the shaft that the tuning
knob sits on, or is the encoder simply a component in the radio separate
from the shaft?


The encoder includes the shaft.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

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Old June 30th 04, 09:42 AM
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mike0219116 wrote:

Does the encoder part for the Drake R8B include the shaft that the tuning
knob sits on, or is the encoder simply a component in the radio separate
from the shaft?


The encoder wheel is located in a housing on the opposite end of the
shaft but it's all one (plastic) part. There are two ways to replace it.
You can buy it with/without the PC board that it's mounted on. The board
is actually a carry over from the original R8 which had an optical
encoder, so it's not really necessary for the A/B models. The encoder
without the PC board costs about $15. You can solder the three wires
coming from the encoder plug, to the pins on the encoder housing,
eliminating the PC board. Are you having a problem with your encoder?


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Yes, the frequency is changing in strange increments when I turn the knob.
I'm trying to decide if I want to send my R8B back to Drake of if I should
fix it myself. It doesn't seem to be a tough repair.

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mike0219116 wrote:

Does the encoder part for the Drake R8B include the shaft that the

tuning
knob sits on, or is the encoder simply a component in the radio separate
from the shaft?


The encoder wheel is located in a housing on the opposite end of the
shaft but it's all one (plastic) part. There are two ways to replace it.
You can buy it with/without the PC board that it's mounted on. The board
is actually a carry over from the original R8 which had an optical
encoder, so it's not really necessary for the A/B models. The encoder
without the PC board costs about $15. You can solder the three wires
coming from the encoder plug, to the pins on the encoder housing,
eliminating the PC board. Are you having a problem with your encoder?


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Old July 2nd 04, 08:47 AM
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If you can solder well and know how to disassemble electronic equipment,
the encoder replacement is quite easy. It starts with removing all the
knobs, top/bottom covers, and the front (black) panel. Then you remove
the nut that holds the encoder shaft in the hole of the chassis. Unplug
the encoder wiring harness from the PC board and remove the encoder
assembly through the bottom of the chassis.

I suggest you order just the encoder without the PC board. It's about
half the price of the original assembly. As I said, the PC board is no
longer necessary. The new part # is 3260012. The price was $11.51 about
three years ago. You will have to remove the wiring harness from the old
encoder PC board and solder the three wires to the matching terminals on
the new encoder. Follow the circuit traces on the old encoder PC board
to determine where each wire goes on the new encoder terminals.

There was a thread on this group more than a year ago where we discussed
why this encoder fails. Myself and another contributor came to the
conclusion that the factory lubricant (grease) causes the encoder
contacts to become less conductive, possibly oxidized. I disassembled an
R8B encoder which was acting like yours, cleaned/degreased it and
relubed it with a synthetic grease. It's been working fine for several
years now. How old is your R8B?

mike0219116 wrote:

Yes, the frequency is changing in strange increments when I turn the knob.
I'm trying to decide if I want to send my R8B back to Drake of if I should
fix it myself. It doesn't seem to be a tough repair.

"starman" wrote in message
...
mike0219116 wrote:

Does the encoder part for the Drake R8B include the shaft that the

tuning
knob sits on, or is the encoder simply a component in the radio separate
from the shaft?


The encoder wheel is located in a housing on the opposite end of the
shaft but it's all one (plastic) part. There are two ways to replace it.
You can buy it with/without the PC board that it's mounted on. The board
is actually a carry over from the original R8 which had an optical
encoder, so it's not really necessary for the A/B models. The encoder
without the PC board costs about $15. You can solder the three wires
coming from the encoder plug, to the pins on the encoder housing,
eliminating the PC board. Are you having a problem with your encoder?



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It's only about a year old. I seem to have bad luck with encoders, as I had
to have the encoder on my Sat. 800 fixed by Drake a few months ago.

I looked through the archives of this group and found the thread you are
referring too. I might go ahead and order the part and give the repair a
shot myself. Thanks for the help.

"starman" wrote in message
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If you can solder well and know how to disassemble electronic equipment,
the encoder replacement is quite easy. It starts with removing all the
knobs, top/bottom covers, and the front (black) panel. Then you remove
the nut that holds the encoder shaft in the hole of the chassis. Unplug
the encoder wiring harness from the PC board and remove the encoder
assembly through the bottom of the chassis.

I suggest you order just the encoder without the PC board. It's about
half the price of the original assembly. As I said, the PC board is no
longer necessary. The new part # is 3260012. The price was $11.51 about
three years ago. You will have to remove the wiring harness from the old
encoder PC board and solder the three wires to the matching terminals on
the new encoder. Follow the circuit traces on the old encoder PC board
to determine where each wire goes on the new encoder terminals.

There was a thread on this group more than a year ago where we discussed
why this encoder fails. Myself and another contributor came to the
conclusion that the factory lubricant (grease) causes the encoder
contacts to become less conductive, possibly oxidized. I disassembled an
R8B encoder which was acting like yours, cleaned/degreased it and
relubed it with a synthetic grease. It's been working fine for several
years now. How old is your R8B?

mike0219116 wrote:

Yes, the frequency is changing in strange increments when I turn the

knob.
I'm trying to decide if I want to send my R8B back to Drake of if I

should
fix it myself. It doesn't seem to be a tough repair.

"starman" wrote in message
...
mike0219116 wrote:

Does the encoder part for the Drake R8B include the shaft that the

tuning
knob sits on, or is the encoder simply a component in the radio

separate
from the shaft?

The encoder wheel is located in a housing on the opposite end of the
shaft but it's all one (plastic) part. There are two ways to replace

it.
You can buy it with/without the PC board that it's mounted on. The

board
is actually a carry over from the original R8 which had an optical
encoder, so it's not really necessary for the A/B models. The encoder
without the PC board costs about $15. You can solder the three wires
coming from the encoder plug, to the pins on the encoder housing,
eliminating the PC board. Are you having a problem with your encoder?



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mike0219116 wrote:

It's only about a year old. I seem to have bad luck with encoders, as I had
to have the encoder on my Sat. 800 fixed by Drake a few months ago.

I looked through the archives of this group and found the thread you are
referring too. I might go ahead and order the part and give the repair a
shot myself. Thanks for the help.


When you dis-assemble the radio make sure you get the connectors back in the
proper spots, and be very careful with the display.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

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dxAce wrote:

mike0219116 wrote:

It's only about a year old. I seem to have bad luck with encoders, as I had
to have the encoder on my Sat. 800 fixed by Drake a few months ago.

I looked through the archives of this group and found the thread you are
referring too. I might go ahead and order the part and give the repair a
shot myself. Thanks for the help.


When you dis-assemble the radio make sure you get the connectors back in the
proper spots, and be very careful with the display.


Sorry, that should be re-assemble...



Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm


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Old July 2nd 04, 10:44 PM
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On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 12:42:46 -0400,dxAce wrote:



mike0219116 wrote:

It's only about a year old. I seem to have bad luck with encoders, as I had
to have the encoder on my Sat. 800 fixed by Drake a few months ago.

I looked through the archives of this group and found the thread you are
referring too. I might go ahead and order the part and give the repair a
shot myself. Thanks for the help.


When you dis-assemble the radio make sure you get the connectors back in the
proper spots, and be very careful with the display.


Another stupid remark, stupid.

When you disassemble something you take it apart, stupid.
When you reassemble something you put the connectors back in the
proper spots, stupid.
You're so stupid you can't even keep track of your stupidity, stupid.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm


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