Eric F. Richards wrote:
"DeWayne" wrote:


Do I detect the beginnings of a class action lawsuit?

Why not just a petition with a lot of names? With all the R75 and R5
owners? Could Icom ignore that?


Y'know, when ICOM does well, they usually do VERY well. When they do
poorly, they produce the R1 and the R75.

Unfortunately, one thing they always do is handle criticism *very*
poorly. Especially ICOM America.

I wonder if Mr. Inoue (sp!) knows what is being done in his name over
here?

What am I hearing? According to most R75 owners, it's the best receiver on
the planet and with only a few hundred small Kiwa mods, is superior to the
R-390. Is this not true?

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html

In this court case the plaintiff won for "...hundreds of
handheld radios...". R-75 is not one of them,unless someone has a
'modification' similar to the ancient headhunting custom of shrinking
human heads...

Arthur Pozner ) writes:
In this court case the plaintiff won for "...hundreds of
handheld radios...". R-75 is not one of them,unless someone has a
'modification' similar to the ancient headhunting custom of shrinking
human heads...

And of course, ICOM wasn't taken to court. They took a company to court
for not paying for radios it bought from ICOM.

I still don't see what purpose the original poster had in posting this
here, and anybody who fell into the trap of "someone won against ICOM,
we can bring suit too" didn't pay attention themselves.

Michael

"Brian Denley" wrote:

Eric F. Richards wrote:
"DeWayne" wrote:


Do I detect the beginnings of a class action lawsuit?

Why not just a petition with a lot of names? With all the R75 and R5
owners? Could Icom ignore that?


Y'know, when ICOM does well, they usually do VERY well. When they do
poorly, they produce the R1 and the R75.

Unfortunately, one thing they always do is handle criticism *very*
poorly. Especially ICOM America.

I wonder if Mr. Inoue (sp!) knows what is being done in his name over
here?

What am I hearing? According to most R75 owners, it's the best receiver on
the planet and with only a few hundred small Kiwa mods, is superior to the
R-390. Is this not true?

Heh. Cast "summon phil spell" roll...

I *was* an R75 owner. Great value? Yep. Very good performer? You
bet. Without terrible weaknesses? Nope.

That said, I own several R8500s and think they are terribly underrated
by the radio community. I certainly prefer them to the '75.



--
Eric F. Richards,
"Nature abhors a vacuum tube." -- J. R. Pierce, Bell Labs, c. 1940

"Toidie Loidie" wrote:


"dxAce" wrote in message
...
Some may find this to be of interest:

Icom radios will cost more now, and their still junk.
Look inside an Icom and it looks like the inside of
a Chinese-made $39.95 Radio Shack DVD player.

Funny... if I look inside my '8500 I see a cast aluminum,
compartmentalized, shielded chassis.

Much as I like my Yaesu gear, their last great receiver was the
FRG-100.

But, whatever. If you want a religious war, find someone else. I
just like gear that works.

--
Eric F. Richards,
"Nature abhors a vacuum tube." -- J. R. Pierce, Bell Labs, c. 1940

Toidie Loidie wrote:


"dxAce" wrote in message
...
Some may find this to be of interest:

Icom radios will cost more now, and their still junk.
Look inside an Icom and it looks like the inside of
a Chinese-made $39.95 Radio Shack DVD player.

...and let's not forget the great Icom fiasco of some years ago
(1980's) when Icom deliberately made microprocessor controlled radios
for both ham and swl which had their internal CPU operating system
written into volatile DRAM as a cost cutting measure. (!)

Your radio's lithium cell aged and went bad or
got bumped lose in the mobile and your radio
then promptly D I E D. You could have it "repaired"
of course by sending it off to Icom with a check
for $65.00 to have it "re-programmed".

In ham radio circles this became know as
the "Icom Time Bomb Rig", and their sales of
course promptly dropped thru the floor faster than
a lead-filled baloon falling into a interstellar black hole.

They may have fixed this gaffe long ago, but Icom
still builds radios much like Pakesheesh Patel's family,
what owns the Subway Sandwich shop, builds their
hoagies....slapped together with no condiments (extra
charge, much like Icom accessories) and dry.

Buy a Yaesu instead.
A much more advanced radio all around.

I have an FRG-8800, and my only complaint is that power surges or
fluctuations (such as can happen during a power outage) can scramble the
microprocessors. I remedy this by keeping it plugged into a surge
protector that I turn off when the radio is not in use. Other than that,
it is wonderful for 20 year old technology.

Eric F. Richards wrote:

Funny... if I look inside my '8500 I see a cast aluminum,
compartmentalized, shielded chassis.

Much as I like my Yaesu gear, their last great receiver was the
FRG-100.


I wanted one. They were probably way underrated. I'd like to find a
good comparison between it, FRG 7 and FRG 9600 (Digital displays
notwithstanding). There was some old stock last year at one of hte
Canadian dealers, but I don't know if they still have any. Price was
around 8 to 900 dollars.


mike

"Eric F. Richards" wrote:

"Brian Denley" wrote:

What am I hearing? According to most R75 owners, it's the best receiver on
the planet and with only a few hundred small Kiwa mods, is superior to the
R-390. Is this not true?

Heh. Cast "summon phil spell" roll...

Please, I beg you, no! I'd rather have Kenneth back. :-)

Only in America!!

Chris
"dxAce" wrote in message
...
Some may find this to be of interest:

ICOM LAWSUIT

http://www.co.medina.oh.us/judgecoll...dicts_2004.htm
4-5-04 ICOM of America, Inc. v. Rapid 2 Way Case no. 03 CIV 0078

In this case, the Plaintiff, ICOM America, claimed the Defendant owed
$114,000 to Plaintiff on an account for products sold and shipped to
Defendant. Plaintiff sold Defendant hundreds of hand-held radios and
accessories. Defendant, Rapid 2 Way, purchased these radios for rent
and sale in its business. Defendant acknowledged that it owed money
to Plaintiff on account, however Defendant claimed the Plaintiff
supplied it with substandard and defective radios causing damage to
Defendant's business. Defendant claimed Plaintiff committed fraud in
its representations regarding the radios.

The Plaintiff was represented by Kenneth Baker, Esq., and Michael
Slodov, Esq., of Cleveland, Ohio. The Defendant was represented by
Bruce Hall, Esq., of Medina, Ohio and Gregory Beck, Esq., of North
Canton, Ohio.

Verdict: After a thirteen day trial, the jury awarded the Plaintiff
$92,915.95 on its claim on the account and attorney fees. The jury
awarded the Defendant $579,131.83 on its claim of breach of contract
and breach of warranty. The jury awarded the Defendant $774,321.50 on
its claim of fraud. The jury further awarded $1,045,837 in punitive
damages along with attorney fees (via Robert Frost, Dec 17, DXLD)
================================================

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Michael Black wrote:

Arthur Pozner ) writes:
In this court case the plaintiff won for "...hundreds of
handheld radios...". R-75 is not one of them,unless someone has a
'modification' similar to the ancient headhunting custom of shrinking
human heads...

And of course, ICOM wasn't taken to court. They took a company to court
for not paying for radios it bought from ICOM.

I still don't see what purpose the original poster had in posting this
here, and anybody who fell into the trap of "someone won against ICOM,
we can bring suit too" didn't pay attention themselves.

The purpose was that some may find it of interest. Can't you read?

dxAce
Michigan
USA