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dxAce December 24th 04 07:00 PM

ICOM Lawsuit
 
Some may find this to be of interest:

ICOM LAWSUIT

http://www.co.medina.oh.us/judgecoll...dicts_2004.htm
4-5-04 ICOM of America, Inc. v. Rapid 2 Way Case no. 03 CIV 0078

In this case, the Plaintiff, ICOM America, claimed the Defendant owed
$114,000 to Plaintiff on an account for products sold and shipped to
Defendant. Plaintiff sold Defendant hundreds of hand-held radios and
accessories. Defendant, Rapid 2 Way, purchased these radios for rent
and sale in its business. Defendant acknowledged that it owed money
to Plaintiff on account, however Defendant claimed the Plaintiff
supplied it with substandard and defective radios causing damage to
Defendant’s business. Defendant claimed Plaintiff committed fraud in
its representations regarding the radios.

The Plaintiff was represented by Kenneth Baker, Esq., and Michael
Slodov, Esq., of Cleveland, Ohio. The Defendant was represented by
Bruce Hall, Esq., of Medina, Ohio and Gregory Beck, Esq., of North
Canton, Ohio.

Verdict: After a thirteen day trial, the jury awarded the Plaintiff
$92,915.95 on its claim on the account and attorney fees. The jury
awarded the Defendant $579,131.83 on its claim of breach of contract
and breach of warranty. The jury awarded the Defendant $774,321.50 on
its claim of fraud. The jury further awarded $1,045,837 in punitive
damages along with attorney fees (via Robert Frost, Dec 17, DXLD)
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dxAce
Michigan
USA




RHF December 24th 04 07:22 PM

DX ACE,

So will I be getting a Check to Pay for the Kiwa Mods
to my Icom IC-R75 to make it almost as good as a
Drake R8B at half the price ? $ ? $ ? $ ? $ ? $ ?

Before You Answer . . . { Holding My Breath } . . .
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DxAce - Merry Christmas and Happy New Year :o)
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God's Blessings Be With You; Your Family, Friends
and Loved Ones - amen, Amen. and AMEN ! ~ rhf
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dxAce December 24th 04 07:26 PM



RHF wrote:

DX ACE,

So will I be getting a Check to Pay for the Kiwa Mods
to my Icom IC-R75 to make it almost as good as a
Drake R8B at half the price ? $ ? $ ? $ ? $ ? $ ?

Before You Answer . . . { Holding My Breath } . . .
.
DxAce - Merry Christmas and Happy New Year :o)
.
God's Blessings Be With You; Your Family, Friends
and Loved Ones - amen, Amen. and AMEN ! ~ rhf


You did say almost...

Have a very Merry Christmas.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



RHF December 24th 04 07:31 PM

DX Ace,

See - I did not have to hold my 'breath' that long :o)
..
Yes - I Did Say 'almost'

..
mc&hny ~ RHF
..
..


Joe Analssandrini December 24th 04 07:53 PM

Hello,

Having "played" with a friend's heavily modified ICOM IC-R75, I believe
this radio is also a "defective" design and is, in fact, a fraud (my
opinion).

It appears, at least to me, to be a "bottomless modification pit"
costing enough money (and aggravation and disappointment) to make it
well worthwhile to just forget about this "Japanese wonder" and buy the
Grundig Satellit 800 which costs $449.95 or less. No expensive or
inconvenient modifications are necessary for the Grundig! And, it gives
at least 95% of the performance of a Drake R8B or AOR AR7030 Plus at
only one-third the price.

My friend likes his radio; however, I've commented to him that if he
likes it so much, why does he have to keep modifying it? His radio has
cost him, thus far, over $1000. (And, he's not a "nut." His concerns
with the performance of his radio are well-founded.) For that kind of
money, you could buy a Drake or an AOR.

If ICOM were truly a class act, again in my opinion, they would upgrade
the 'R75 as its shortcomings are well-known by now, and they should
even offer to arrange "fixes" for those radios already in service.
Best,

Joe


dxAce December 24th 04 07:56 PM



Joe Analssandrini wrote:

Hello,

Having "played" with a friend's heavily modified ICOM IC-R75, I believe
this radio is also a "defective" design and is, in fact, a fraud (my
opinion).

It appears, at least to me, to be a "bottomless modification pit"
costing enough money (and aggravation and disappointment) to make it
well worthwhile to just forget about this "Japanese wonder" and buy the
Grundig Satellit 800 which costs $449.95 or less. No expensive or
inconvenient modifications are necessary for the Grundig! And, it gives
at least 95% of the performance of a Drake R8B or AOR AR7030 Plus at
only one-third the price.

My friend likes his radio; however, I've commented to him that if he
likes it so much, why does he have to keep modifying it? His radio has
cost him, thus far, over $1000. (And, he's not a "nut." His concerns
with the performance of his radio are well-founded.) For that kind of
money, you could buy a Drake or an AOR.

If ICOM were truly a class act, again in my opinion, they would upgrade
the 'R75 as its shortcomings are well-known by now, and they should
even offer to arrange "fixes" for those radios already in service.
Best,

Joe


Do I detect the beginnings of a class action lawsuit?

:-)

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Joe Analssandrini December 24th 04 08:15 PM

Not by me! I don't own one! :-) But if I did ...

Best,

Joe


DeWayne December 24th 04 08:25 PM


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Joe Analssandrini wrote:

Hello,

Having "played" with a friend's heavily modified ICOM IC-R75, I believe
this radio is also a "defective" design and is, in fact, a fraud (my
opinion).

It appears, at least to me, to be a "bottomless modification pit"
costing enough money (and aggravation and disappointment) to make it
well worthwhile to just forget about this "Japanese wonder" and buy the
Grundig Satellit 800 which costs $449.95 or less. No expensive or
inconvenient modifications are necessary for the Grundig! And, it gives
at least 95% of the performance of a Drake R8B or AOR AR7030 Plus at
only one-third the price.

My friend likes his radio; however, I've commented to him that if he
likes it so much, why does he have to keep modifying it? His radio has
cost him, thus far, over $1000. (And, he's not a "nut." His concerns
with the performance of his radio are well-founded.) For that kind of
money, you could buy a Drake or an AOR.

If ICOM were truly a class act, again in my opinion, they would upgrade
the 'R75 as its shortcomings are well-known by now, and they should
even offer to arrange "fixes" for those radios already in service.
Best,

Joe


Do I detect the beginnings of a class action lawsuit?


Why not just a petition with a lot of names? With all the R75 and R5 owners?
Could Icom ignore that?


:-)

dxAce
Michigan
USA





Toidie Loidie December 25th 04 01:04 AM


"dxAce" wrote in message
...
Some may find this to be of interest:


Icom radios will cost more now, and their still junk.
Look inside an Icom and it looks like the inside of
a Chinese-made $39.95 Radio Shack DVD player.

...and let's not forget the great Icom fiasco of some years ago
(1980's) when Icom deliberately made microprocessor controlled radios
for both ham and swl which had their internal CPU operating system
written into volatile DRAM as a cost cutting measure. (!)

Your radio's lithium cell aged and went bad or
got bumped lose in the mobile and your radio
then promptly D I E D. You could have it "repaired"
of course by sending it off to Icom with a check
for $65.00 to have it "re-programmed".

In ham radio circles this became know as
the "Icom Time Bomb Rig", and their sales of
course promptly dropped thru the floor faster than
a lead-filled baloon falling into a interstellar black hole.

They may have fixed this gaffe long ago, but Icom
still builds radios much like Pakesheesh Patel's family,
what owns the Subway Sandwich shop, builds their
hoagies....slapped together with no condiments (extra
charge, much like Icom accessories) and dry.

Buy a Yaesu instead.
A much more advanced radio all around.






Eric F. Richards December 25th 04 01:22 AM

"DeWayne" wrote:


Do I detect the beginnings of a class action lawsuit?


Why not just a petition with a lot of names? With all the R75 and R5 owners?
Could Icom ignore that?


Y'know, when ICOM does well, they usually do VERY well. When they do
poorly, they produce the R1 and the R75.

Unfortunately, one thing they always do is handle criticism *very*
poorly. Especially ICOM America.

I wonder if Mr. Inoue (sp!) knows what is being done in his name over
here?


--
Eric F. Richards,
"Nature abhors a vacuum tube." -- J. R. Pierce, Bell Labs, c. 1940


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