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The folks at Lowe UK were nice enought to steer me in the right direction
with my carrier injection problem. Any of you Lowe folks, take note! Apparently, Q4, the carrier generator (MC14569) is being run near its design maximum. Out of 10,000 units, I was told that 12 of them have failed because of this chip. I let the receiver run for about 15 minutes and the carrier injection problem showed up in the form of the BFO frequency being drastically shifted. I cooled the chip and normal operation of the receiver resumed. After 2 more minutes when the chip heated up again, the problem surfaced again. I cooled the chip once more, and once more, the receiver resumed normal operation. The Digi-Key part number is: MC14569BCPOS-ND They have 1743 of them in stock at a price of $2.47 if you order less than 25 pieces. This receiver was a stumper, but since it is only a collection of parts, it was inevitable that would eventually get fixed. Now, if only Radio Shack has that part in stock............................................. .......... Pete |
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So I guess folks who are sufficiently handy to do repairs in their
HF-150s could do worse than sticking a heatsink onto the MC14569 while it still works fine? Stephan -- Home: http://stephan.win31.de/ PC#6: i440BX, 2xP3-500E, 704 MiB, 18+80 GB, R9k AGP 64 MiB, 110W |
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That's what another friend suggested. It would probably be fine. I am going
to just replace the device since part of it is under the LCD. Also, since my radio originally had a blown 1st mixer, it is quite possible that this chip was subjected to ESD. Pete "Stephan Grossklass" wrote in message ... So I guess folks who are sufficiently handy to do repairs in their HF-150s could do worse than sticking a heatsink onto the MC14569 while it still works fine? Stephan -- Home: http://stephan.win31.de/ PC#6: i440BX, 2xP3-500E, 704 MiB, 18+80 GB, R9k AGP 64 MiB, 110W |
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![]() "Pete KE9OA" wrote in message ... The folks at Lowe UK were nice enought to steer me in the right direction with my carrier injection problem. Any of you Lowe folks, take note! Apparently, Q4, the carrier generator (MC14569) is being run near its design maximum. Out of 10,000 units, I was told that 12 of them have failed because of this chip. I let the receiver run for about 15 minutes and the carrier injection problem showed up in the form of the BFO frequency being drastically shifted. I cooled the chip and normal operation of the receiver resumed. After 2 more minutes when the chip heated up again, the problem surfaced again. I cooled the chip once more, and once more, the receiver resumed normal operation. The Digi-Key part number is: MC14569BCPOS-ND They have 1743 of them in stock at a price of $2.47 if you order less than 25 pieces. This receiver was a stumper, but since it is only a collection of parts, it was inevitable that would eventually get fixed. Now, if only Radio Shack has that part in stock............................................. .......... Pete Can you explain this problem a little more? I did notice that sometimes after I get a lock on a signal, and move out of range a little and you get that howl, I have to move the dial quite a bit around to get another lock. But, it then locks well below the frequency it locked at before. Is this what you mean? Lucky |
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No, what I mean is that the carrier insertion point, instead of being -25dB
down on the I.F. passband slope shifts to -35dB down on the slope. If you play with a receiver that has passband tuning, the description becomes apparent. I will describe the sound when the unit malfunctions.....................the noise from the receiver becomes very high pitched and voices become inaudible. The reason for this is that as the BFO signal is moved out of the I.F. passband, the resultant audio is in the supersonic region. Because of the low-pass filtering that is prevalent in communications receiver designs, these high frequencies are bypassed to ground, resulting in no apparent received audio. Evidently, this failure mode is pretty rare, so it is pretty unlikely that you will experience this condition with your receiver. I hope this helps. Pete "Lucky" wrote in message ... "Pete KE9OA" wrote in message ... The folks at Lowe UK were nice enought to steer me in the right direction with my carrier injection problem. Any of you Lowe folks, take note! Apparently, Q4, the carrier generator (MC14569) is being run near its design maximum. Out of 10,000 units, I was told that 12 of them have failed because of this chip. I let the receiver run for about 15 minutes and the carrier injection problem showed up in the form of the BFO frequency being drastically shifted. I cooled the chip and normal operation of the receiver resumed. After 2 more minutes when the chip heated up again, the problem surfaced again. I cooled the chip once more, and once more, the receiver resumed normal operation. The Digi-Key part number is: MC14569BCPOS-ND They have 1743 of them in stock at a price of $2.47 if you order less than 25 pieces. This receiver was a stumper, but since it is only a collection of parts, it was inevitable that would eventually get fixed. Now, if only Radio Shack has that part in stock............................................. .......... Pete Can you explain this problem a little more? I did notice that sometimes after I get a lock on a signal, and move out of range a little and you get that howl, I have to move the dial quite a bit around to get another lock. But, it then locks well below the frequency it locked at before. Is this what you mean? Lucky |
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![]() "Pete KE9OA" wrote in message ... No, what I mean is that the carrier insertion point, instead of being -25dB down on the I.F. passband slope shifts to -35dB down on the slope. If you play with a receiver that has passband tuning, the description becomes apparent. I will describe the sound when the unit malfunctions.....................the noise from the receiver becomes very high pitched and voices become inaudible. The reason for this is that as the BFO signal is moved out of the I.F. passband, the resultant audio is in the supersonic region. Because of the low-pass filtering that is prevalent in communications receiver designs, these high frequencies are bypassed to ground, resulting in no apparent received audio. Evidently, this failure mode is pretty rare, so it is pretty unlikely that you will experience this condition with your receiver. I hope this helps. Pete "Lucky" wrote in message ... "Pete KE9OA" wrote in message ... The folks at Lowe UK were nice enought to steer me in the right direction with my carrier injection problem. Any of you Lowe folks, take note! Apparently, Q4, the carrier generator (MC14569) is being run near its design maximum. Out of 10,000 units, I was told that 12 of them have failed because of this chip. I let the receiver run for about 15 minutes and the carrier injection problem showed up in the form of the BFO frequency being drastically shifted. I cooled the chip and normal operation of the receiver resumed. After 2 more minutes when the chip heated up again, the problem surfaced again. I cooled the chip once more, and once more, the receiver resumed normal operation. The Digi-Key part number is: MC14569BCPOS-ND They have 1743 of them in stock at a price of $2.47 if you order less than 25 pieces. This receiver was a stumper, but since it is only a collection of parts, it was inevitable that would eventually get fixed. Now, if only Radio Shack has that part in stock............................................. .......... Pete Can you explain this problem a little more? I did notice that sometimes after I get a lock on a signal, and move out of range a little and you get that howl, I have to move the dial quite a bit around to get another lock. But, it then locks well below the frequency it locked at before. Is this what you mean? Lucky Thanks Pete I love the 150 and have it for like 1 month now. I'm drawn to using it. It's extremely sensitive and holds weak signals very well. The sync actually works. You seem pretty knowledgable about the 150. What purpose does the double side band serve and under what circumstances would you be applying it? Thanks Lucky |
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Thanks Pete
I love the 150 and have it for like 1 month now. I'm drawn to using it. It's extremely sensitive and holds weak signals very well. The sync actually works. You seem pretty knowledgable about the 150. What purpose does the double side band serve and under what circumstances would you be applying it? Thanks Lucky I believe that this goes to a wider I.F. bandwidth, giving better fidelity. I haven't played with that function yet, but once I get the receiver repaired and aligned, I will give it a try. Pete |
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![]() "Pete KE9OA" wrote in message ... Thanks Pete I love the 150 and have it for like 1 month now. I'm drawn to using it. It's extremely sensitive and holds weak signals very well. The sync actually works. You seem pretty knowledgable about the 150. What purpose does the double side band serve and under what circumstances would you be applying it? Thanks Lucky I believe that this goes to a wider I.F. bandwidth, giving better fidelity. I haven't played with that function yet, but once I get the receiver repaired and aligned, I will give it a try. Pete I think the "HiFi" mode ofers the best fidelity on the 150. I'm wondering why Lowe implemented double side band. You have your choice of sync in LSB, USB and AM, AM-narrow plus HiFi mode. But also in double side band. Yes I get good results with it sometimes and Lowe even recommends listening in double or HiFi. Out of all my radios, this simple radio is just superb. It's quiet and has a low noise floor. I mean I find myself using it more then my Icom R-75 and I love that unit too. If you've been around and used many other radios, you'll see and appreciate the great quality in the 150. On top of all that it's a portable too. You can take a superb rig with you anywhere you go. I have decided not to buy the remote control for this unit as I did with my Kenwood R-5000 and R-75. It's too much fun to use hands on. The knob and the way it feels wins you over. It's definitely a collectors item that's for sure. Lucky |
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Pete,
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Pete KE9OA wrote:
I let the receiver run for about 15 minutes and the carrier injection problem showed up in the form of the BFO frequency being drastically shifted. I cooled the chip and normal operation of the receiver resumed. After 2 more minutes when the chip heated up again, the problem surfaced again. I cooled the chip once more, and once more, the receiver resumed normal operation. If you want a cheaper "freeze mist", use cans of "Dust Off" held upside down. I believe they use the same chemical, but I get 4 12 oz. cans of Dust Off for under $11 at Costco, while I haven't seen a 6 oz. can of freeze mist for under $8 in 30 years. |
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