"Short wave listening around the world is declining.

The downward trend is accelerating: the global short wave audience for BBC
World Service has dropped from 122 million in 1996 to 97 million in 2003.

Like other international broadcasters, BBC World Service has been adjusting
its short wave provisions in line with global demand changes.

Alternative ways to listen

At the same time BBC World Service has been investing in new delivery
methods, all with the improved audibility now preferred by audiences, such
as FM, cable, satellite and online.

BBC World Service is committed to making the best use of the money it
receives from the government and has had considerable success in attracting
audiences to these new methods of delivery; more than 50 million are using
these and the numbers are growing fast.

Separately, online usage has grown from three million page impressions every
month in late 1998 to almost 300 million by 2004, which is equivalent to 18
million unique users.

Alongside in-depth news and information, programmes are available streamed
both live and on demand at the convenience of the listener.

There are now more ways to listen to BBC World Service broadcasts than ever
before. To check for availability in your region please click here."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/us...ort_wave.shtml

Yeah, but their amount of shortwave listeners has declined only since
they reduced their broadcasting schedules, as far as I know.

Invader3K wrote:

Yeah, but their amount of shortwave listeners has declined only since
they reduced their broadcasting schedules, as far as I know.

It would seem that way wouldn't it?

dxAce
Michigan
USA

On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 06:47:27 +0000 (UTC), "Mike Terry"
wrote:

"Short wave listening around the world is declining.

The downward trend is accelerating: the global short wave audience for BBC
World Service has dropped from 122 million in 1996 to 97 million in 2003.

Like other international broadcasters, BBC World Service has been adjusting
its short wave provisions in line with global demand changes.

Alternative ways to listen

At the same time BBC World Service has been investing in new delivery
methods, all with the improved audibility now preferred by audiences, such
as FM, cable, satellite and online.

BBC World Service is committed to making the best use of the money it
receives from the government and has had considerable success in attracting
audiences to these new methods of delivery; more than 50 million are using
these and the numbers are growing fast.

Separately, online usage has grown from three million page impressions every
month in late 1998 to almost 300 million by 2004, which is equivalent to 18
million unique users.

Alongside in-depth news and information, programmes are available streamed
both live and on demand at the convenience of the listener.

There are now more ways to listen to BBC World Service broadcasts than ever
before. To check for availability in your region please click here."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/us...ort_wave.shtml


1) When push comes to shove, shortwave frequently goes where the new
methods can't.

For example, the King of Nepal shut off 'net connections and FM local
relays of the Beeb but it is far harder to shut down shortwave.

Also, I have never heard of a shortwave transmitter which could not
take on further listeners because of network overloads.

2) Once you go on the internet, you don't need BBCWS anymore - you
might as well listen to Beeb domestic. For example, I rarely listen to
BBCWS on the internet but I am a frequent listener to the satellite
network BBC7 (with old comedy and drama) and Radio 4, each of which is
streamed.

They need to put some pretty wimmins on BBC America,on my DirecTV for me
to look at instead of that ugly looking old cow they have on there
nowdays.She looks like ****.
cuhulin

Well, there are signs that shortwave listening is on the decline if you
look at the number of new hf receiver models being offered and the
numker of companies making them. The frequencies listed in
publications like MT seems to be smaller than before too.

The BBC like so many other national radio stations are looking for ways
to cut costs when budgets are lean and still get their message out.
Going to the internet, cable tv, satellite radio and local rebroadcast
of downlinked signals are obvious ways to do that.

Wish the excitement for shortwave broadcasts was like it was from the
1930's through the 1950's. Back then broadcasts over shortwave were
the fastest way to find out what was happening around the world. Many
of those furniture grade wood cased radios had both MW and shortwave
bands. Today there are numerous alternatives to shortwave radio and
the major boradcasters are incresingly turning to those media.



Mike Terry wrote:
"Short wave listening around the world is declining.

The downward trend is accelerating: the global short wave audience
for BBC
World Service has dropped from 122 million in 1996 to 97 million in
2003.

Like other international broadcasters, BBC World Service has been
adjusting
its short wave provisions in line with global demand changes.

Alternative ways to listen

At the same time BBC World Service has been investing in new delivery
methods, all with the improved audibility now preferred by audiences,
such
as FM, cable, satellite and online.

BBC World Service is committed to making the best use of the money it
receives from the government and has had considerable success in
attracting
audiences to these new methods of delivery; more than 50 million are
using
these and the numbers are growing fast.

Separately, online usage has grown from three million page
impressions every
month in late 1998 to almost 300 million by 2004, which is equivalent
to 18
million unique users.

Alongside in-depth news and information, programmes are available
streamed
both live and on demand at the convenience of the listener.

There are now more ways to listen to BBC World Service broadcasts
than ever
before. To check for availability in your region please click here."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/us...ort_wave.shtml

Joel Rubin wrote:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 06:47:27 +0000 (UTC), "Mike Terry"
wrote:

"Short wave listening around the world is declining.

The downward trend is accelerating: the global short wave audience for BBC
World Service has dropped from 122 million in 1996 to 97 million in 2003.

Like other international broadcasters, BBC World Service has been adjusting
its short wave provisions in line with global demand changes.

Alternative ways to listen

At the same time BBC World Service has been investing in new delivery
methods, all with the improved audibility now preferred by audiences, such
as FM, cable, satellite and online.

BBC World Service is committed to making the best use of the money it
receives from the government and has had considerable success in attracting
audiences to these new methods of delivery; more than 50 million are using
these and the numbers are growing fast.

Separately, online usage has grown from three million page impressions every
month in late 1998 to almost 300 million by 2004, which is equivalent to 18
million unique users.

Alongside in-depth news and information, programmes are available streamed
both live and on demand at the convenience of the listener.

There are now more ways to listen to BBC World Service broadcasts than ever
before. To check for availability in your region please click here."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/us...ort_wave.shtml


1) When push comes to shove, shortwave frequently goes where the new
methods can't.

For example, the King of Nepal shut off 'net connections and FM local
relays of the Beeb but it is far harder to shut down shortwave.

I've been saying this for weeks, yet nobody has been listening. Nepal
was a warning shot over the bow of the BBC and every other shortwave
broadcaster (Voice of America, anyone?) who thinks that FM and the net
can replace shortwave. I figure that it will take a first world
country-such as the USA-doing what his majesty did in Nepal to make SW
broadcasters sit up and take notice. An Iraqi insurgent takeover of a
Sawa FM outlet might work, too.

Also, I have never heard of a shortwave transmitter which could not
take on further listeners because of network overloads.

The old bugaboo of the net-never enough bandwidth. As bandwidth expands,
so does content, like a goldfish that expands to fit its environment.
Now that people have broadband, they download whole movies. People
didn't do that with 14.4 modem connections and 80 MB hard drives. I
suppose if they invent a fatter internet pipe than broadband, people
will invent more and bigger content for it. Analog over the air radio
doesn't have this problem, obviously. All it will take is some 13 year
old hacker shutting down the internet for a while for people to realize
that the internet isn't reliable yet. Not to mention security, which is
a whole other post...

2) Once you go on the internet, you don't need BBCWS anymore - you
might as well listen to Beeb domestic. For example, I rarely listen to
BBCWS on the internet but I am a frequent listener to the satellite
network BBC7 (with old comedy and drama) and Radio 4, each of which is
streamed.

The BBC seems to think that it can put the BBCWS on just a handful of FM
outlets and have it survive. I really don't think so. Also, has it
occured to them that the decline in SW listeners has been a result of
them cutting out whole continents (NAm and Aus) from their services and
reducing transmissions to others?


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BBC is very left wing biased (bi-assed) too.I have noticed that for many
years.
cuhulin

Joel Rubin wrote in message hlink.net...
1) When push comes to shove, shortwave frequently goes where the new
methods can't.

For example, the King of Nepal shut off 'net connections and FM local
relays of the Beeb but it is far harder to shut down shortwave.

Well said. Actually, the reason FM station (103 MHz) only shut off the Nepali
language broadcast (1500-1530 UTC). World service was/is available 24 hours a
day in Kathmandu. So was BBC TV on cable networks. Most common folks are
rediscovering shortwave once again to listen to Nepali language broadcast from
foreign stations. Streaming audio can be heard over Internet for those folks
who have access to net.

But BBC does need to shut down some transmitters. Nothing more annoying than
to tune the shortwave and when you think you found some exotic station, it
turns out to be BEEB.

On 19 Mar 2005 19:23:57 -0800, (Jim) wrote:

Joel Rubin wrote in message hlink.net...
1) When push comes to shove, shortwave frequently goes where the new
methods can't.

For example, the King of Nepal shut off 'net connections and FM local
relays of the Beeb but it is far harder to shut down shortwave.

Well said. Actually, the reason FM station (103 MHz) only shut off the Nepali
language broadcast (1500-1530 UTC). World service was/is available 24 hours a
day in Kathmandu. So was BBC TV on cable networks. Most common folks are
rediscovering shortwave once again to listen to Nepali language broadcast from
foreign stations. Streaming audio can be heard over Internet for those folks
who have access to net.

But BBC does need to shut down some transmitters. Nothing more annoying than
to tune the shortwave and when you think you found some exotic station, it
turns out to be BEEB.

Jim,
I thought of something more annoying: thinking you've found an exotic
station only to find out it's "Pastor" Pete Peters!

Howard