John Stadtmiller, the Intel Report host, apparently agrees with Al
Patrick that Catholics are perverse near satanic cultists.

I usually listen to John, mostly enjoying the show, particularly for the
relief from some of the topics, such as anti-Catholicism so common to the
shortwave preachers. John had a guest, and as I had the radio on in the
background, really didn't hear the topic of the show. A caller wanted to
know if he (the caller) was permitted to broach any topic, since what he
wished to talk about was a significant deviation from the current topic.
John paused to think for a while, and tried to segue the caller's topic
with the show's topic. Failing that, and asking the caller for more
specifics about what the caller wanted to discuss (and finding the topic
to be Catholicism), John gave the go-ahead.

The caller proceeded to explain that he believed that Catholicism was
witchcraft, explaining about the weird rituals used in the faith. John
agreed, citing his upbringing as a Catholic and the perverse things that
they do.

I was a bit surprised. Even with the diversity of views expected on
shortwave, and even giving the caller the ability to say his piece, I was
surprised that during the time of Catholics awaiting the burial of the
Pope and the selection of a new Pope, I would have thought that John
would have been a little more discrete.

Al, take part of your tithings to Brother Stair and send it to the Intel
Report for the excellent furthering of your cause. Was that you that
called?

Oh, and Al, when you write to John and adulate him for his support of
your cause, be sure to tell him for me that just as with the media and
the government and everything else that John talks about, that he too is
pushing the divisiveness that he accuses these institutions of.

I can see why Alex Jones won't switch to Republican Broadcasting. Perhaps
Jack Blood knew that he was doing when he jumped ship. I still listen to
the Republican Broadcasting shows, but I can see why Alex goes to
extremes not to finger specific groups. When Alex discusses Catholics, he
admits that there are problems, but almost always points out the other
groups having similar problems. Oddly enough, people from some of these
lunatic fringe Christian shortwave stations actually believe that they,
after 2000 years, are the only ones to have correctly divined the meaning
of the Bible. Amazing. And most of them don't know Greek or Hebrew.

As I said before, if it wasn't for Catholics, Protestants wouldn't have
anything to talk about. The following is a numerical list of the times
that I have heard Protestants talked about while in Church with a
complete description of the topic.

1. (empty, here for dramatic purposes only)

You think that they would actually try to put their Religion into
practice, not endlessly endeavor to denigrate the Religions of others.

I have been listening to the Pope is the anti-Christ since before this
Pope was a Pope. I worked at a job in Ohio, and my professional co-
workers were told by their Pastor that the Pope was the anti-Christ. By
their Pastor! I see that they spent a lot of time at prayer.


Regards


Dr. Artuad

A book, " The DaVinci Code" concerning The Catholic Church, has been on
the Best Seller List for months..

It is an excellent, fast paced mystery, with some facts woven into it..
Quite Provocative..
and...
It has been Banned By The Vatican . . .

Dan wrote:

A book, " The DaVinci Code" concerning The Catholic Church, has been on
the Best Seller List for months..

It is an excellent, fast paced mystery, with some facts woven into it..
Quite Provocative..
and...
It has been Banned By The Vatican . . .


Catholicism has banned MANY books over the years!

Where's THEIR "freedom of religion"?

They've been known to dig up the bones of very honest, noble,
intelligent men who promoted Jesus Christ and mutilate them because they
didn't adhere to the Catholic traditions.

Ever read Foxes Book of Martyrs? It's as bad as, or worse, than reading
of the things that happened to Christians in Hebrews 11. The Catholics
had real TORTURE CHAMBERS that would probably make our boys in Cuba (?)
seem like they're just kidding around. ....Worse than what they
claimed could happen to white men turned over to the Indian women!

I suppose THAT is the "Catholic version" of "freedom of religion"!

==================

"Al Patrick" wrote in message
...

Ever read Foxes Book of Martyrs? It's as bad as, or worse, than reading
of the things that happened to Christians in Hebrews 11.

Read parts of it back in college while doing research for a paper.
Perhaps one of the most veiled autoerotic tomes that I'd read.
(...only surpassed in it's brutality and perverseness by "The
120 Days of Sodom" by The Marquis de Sade) Each of them feature
vivid descriptions of man's inhumanity to man in creative and amazing
ways which make even today's offerings from Hollywood seem bland
in comparison. True autoerotic S&M hardcore writing if there ever was.
Also a great primer on ways to inflict pain and depravation !

I still get a good hardon whenever I read either of them to this
day.....grin!

Perhaps YOU need to spend some time reading the Bible instead of
fingering the rosary. Roman Catholicism teaches many things that are
180 degrees out from the Bible.

Perhaps YOU should consider a "Ninety-Five Theses" to nail to the church
door! ;-)

Every pope claims to love the poor and about every country that is
predominately Catholic is dirt poor. Why do you think all the Mexicans
want to come to America, so they can find a Catholic church? :-)

===========

§ Dr. Artaud § wrote:

John Stadtmiller, the Intel Report host, apparently agrees with Al
Patrick that Catholics are perverse near satanic cultists.

I usually listen to John, mostly enjoying the show, particularly for the
relief from some of the topics, such as anti-Catholicism so common to the
shortwave preachers. John had a guest, and as I had the radio on in the
background, really didn't hear the topic of the show. A caller wanted to
know if he (the caller) was permitted to broach any topic, since what he
wished to talk about was a significant deviation from the current topic.
John paused to think for a while, and tried to segue the caller's topic
with the show's topic. Failing that, and asking the caller for more
specifics about what the caller wanted to discuss (and finding the topic
to be Catholicism), John gave the go-ahead.

The caller proceeded to explain that he believed that Catholicism was
witchcraft, explaining about the weird rituals used in the faith. John
agreed, citing his upbringing as a Catholic and the perverse things that
they do.

I was a bit surprised. Even with the diversity of views expected on
shortwave, and even giving the caller the ability to say his piece, I was
surprised that during the time of Catholics awaiting the burial of the
Pope and the selection of a new Pope, I would have thought that John
would have been a little more discrete.

Al, take part of your tithings to Brother Stair and send it to the Intel
Report for the excellent furthering of your cause. Was that you that
called?

Oh, and Al, when you write to John and adulate him for his support of
your cause, be sure to tell him for me that just as with the media and
the government and everything else that John talks about, that he too is
pushing the divisiveness that he accuses these institutions of.

I can see why Alex Jones won't switch to Republican Broadcasting. Perhaps
Jack Blood knew that he was doing when he jumped ship. I still listen to
the Republican Broadcasting shows, but I can see why Alex goes to
extremes not to finger specific groups. When Alex discusses Catholics, he
admits that there are problems, but almost always points out the other
groups having similar problems. Oddly enough, people from some of these
lunatic fringe Christian shortwave stations actually believe that they,
after 2000 years, are the only ones to have correctly divined the meaning
of the Bible. Amazing. And most of them don't know Greek or Hebrew.

As I said before, if it wasn't for Catholics, Protestants wouldn't have
anything to talk about. The following is a numerical list of the times
that I have heard Protestants talked about while in Church with a
complete description of the topic.

1. (empty, here for dramatic purposes only)

You think that they would actually try to put their Religion into
practice, not endlessly endeavor to denigrate the Religions of others.

I have been listening to the Pope is the anti-Christ since before this
Pope was a Pope. I worked at a job in Ohio, and my professional co-
workers were told by their Pastor that the Pope was the anti-Christ. By
their Pastor! I see that they spent a lot of time at prayer.


Regards


Dr. Artuad

Al Patrick wrote:
Perhaps YOU need to spend some time reading the Bible instead of
fingering the rosary. Roman Catholicism teaches many things that are
180 degrees out from the Bible.

Perhaps YOU should consider a "Ninety-Five Theses" to nail to the
church door! ;-)

Every pope claims to love the poor and about every country that is
predominately Catholic is dirt poor. Why do you think all the
Mexicans want to come to America, so they can find a Catholic church?
:-)


This country was started by people who believed in religious freedom. You
don't?

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html

Brian Denley wrote:
Al Patrick wrote:

Perhaps YOU need to spend some time reading the Bible instead of
fingering the rosary. Roman Catholicism teaches many things that are
180 degrees out from the Bible.

Perhaps YOU should consider a "Ninety-Five Theses" to nail to the
church door! ;-)

Every pope claims to love the poor and about every country that is
predominately Catholic is dirt poor. Why do you think all the
Mexicans want to come to America, so they can find a Catholic church?
:-)



This country was started by people who believed in religious freedom. You
don't?


I also believe in religious freedom. But almost every time I make a
statement someone else who *claims* to believe in religious freedom says
something to the effect of, "Ahh, SHUT UP!"

Watch!

Pastor Peter J. Peters is on right now at 5070 and has a very
interesting program. He was (taking phone calls now) teaching on the
Passover, which just past last Sunday at 1:00 PM - according to Solar time.

His programming can be found on WWCR - http://www.wwcr.com and at his
own web site http://www.scripturesforamerica.org (That's Scriptures For
America dot Org. He as many of his programs archived there and they can
be downloaded in MP3, Windows, or Real Player formats - or heard online.

His programming is also FREE on Telstar 5 - audio only.

Al

Al Patrick wrote in
:

Hi Al, I'm still waiting for the response to my last posts to you. I
remember that you made some amorphous comments, but nothing of substance.
I know that you are consumed by your hatred for Catholics, I just wonder
why?

I suspect a little too much Brother Stair and Pastor Peters and a little
too little critical thinking on your part. Also, I just don't understand
why people such as yourself feel free to pick and choose what you wish to
adhere to in the Bible and what you wish to ignore.

On an interesting note, Alex Jones is currently listening to a caller
with, you guessed it, the belief that Catholics are trying to destroy the
U.S. Constitution. I truly feel sorry for those like Al Patrick who spend
every waking moment suffering neurosis about Catholics.

Unlike Stadtmiller, Alex kicks the callers ass. The caller indicated that
there was a conspiracy in the 1800s to gain control of the U.S. by
immigrating Irish and Italians to the U.S., in theory, since they are
Catholics, therefore they will gain control. Alex puts him in his place
by saying that if they were trying to do this, they were failing since
the U.S. Catholic Church is falling apart. He also mentioned the
unfortunate demise of President Kennedy, also a Catholic. The caller
believes that the Catholic Church is immigrating Mexicans to try to gain
control, just like Al Patrick believes. (Maybe it was Al).

Contrary to your belief, Faith alone is likely not sufficient.

James 2:20 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

James 2:26 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is
dead also.

How about a refresher on my original comments. You seem to have a fear of
Scarlet and Purple, a complete disregard for "Love your enemy", as well
as obsessed by the Whore of Babylon. I posted the following, quoting from
the King James version, yet you did not answer.


With Regards Always

Dr. Artaud



1 John 4:20 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he
that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom
he hath not seen?

Or:

Luke 6:27-38 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which
hate you,

Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.

And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and
him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.

Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy
goods ask them not again.

And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also
love those that love them.

And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for
sinners also do even the same.


Exodus 28:4 (King James Version)
And these are the garments which they shall make; a breastplate, and an
ephod, and a robe, and a broidered coat, a mitre, and a girdle: and they
shall make holy garments for Aaron thy brother, and his sons, that he may
minister unto me in the priest's office.
And they shall take gold, and blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine
linen.
And they shall make the ephod of gold, of blue, and of purple, of
scarlet, and fine twined linen, with cunning work.
And the curious girdle of the ephod, which is upon it, shall be of the
same, according to the work thereof; even of gold, of blue, and purple,
and scarlet, and fine twined linen.


"#4: Clothed in Purple and Red
Hunt states, "She [the Whore] is clothed in 'purple and scarlet' (verse
4), the colors of the Catholic clergy." He then cites the Catholic
Encyclopedia to show that bishops wear certain purple vestments and
cardinals wear certain red vestments.

Hunt ignores the obvious symbolic meaning of the colors-purple for
royalty and red for the blood of Christian martyrs. Instead, he is
suddenly literal in his interpretation. He understood well enough that
the woman symbolizes a city and that the fornication symbolizes something
other than literal sex, but now he wants to assign the colors a literal,
earthly fulfillment in a few vestments of certain Catholic clergy.

Purple and red are not the dominant colors of Catholic clerical
vestments. White is. All priests wear white (including bishops and
cardinals when they are saying Mass)-even the pope does so.

The purple and scarlet of the Whore are contrasted with the white of the
New Jerusalem, the Bride of Christ (Rev. 19:8). This is a problem for
Hunt for three reasons: (a) we have already noted that the dominant color
of Catholic clerical vestments is white, which would identify them with
New Jerusalem if the color is taken literally; (b) the clothing of the
Bride is given a symbolic interpretation ("the righteous acts of the
saints;" 19:8); implying that the clothing of the Whore should also be
given a symbolic meaning; and (c) the identification of the Bride as New
Jerusalem (Rev. 3:12, 21:2, 10) suggests that the Whore may be old
(apostate) Jerusalem-a contrast used elsewhere in Scripture (Gal.
4:25-26).

Hunt ignores the liturgical meaning of purple and red in Catholic
symbolism. Purple symbolizes repentance, and red honors the blood of
Christ and the Christian martyrs.

It is appropriate for Catholic clerics to wear purple and scarlet, if for
no other reason because they have been liturgical colors of the true
religion since ancient Israel.

Hunt neglects to remind his readers that God commanded that scarlet yarn
and wool be used in liturgical ceremonies (Lev. 14:4, 6, 49-52; Num.
19:6), and that God commanded that the priests' vestments be made with
purple and scarlet yarn (Ex. 28:4-8, 15, 33, 39:1-8, 24, 29)."


http://www.catholic.com/library/Hunt...of_Babylon.asp
"The Greek word in this passage is horos. Of the sixty-five occurrences
of this word in the New Testament, only three are rendered "hill" by the
King James Version. The remaining sixty-two are translated as "mountain"
or "mount." Modern Bibles have similar ratios. If the passage states that
the Whore sits on "seven mountains," it could refer to anything.
Mountains are common biblical symbols, often symbolizing whole kingdoms
(cf. Ps. 68:15; Dan. 2:35; Amos 4:1, 6:1; Obad. 8-21). The Whore's seven
mountains might be seven kingdoms she reigns over, or seven kingdoms with
which she has something in common."

Some people who claim to "know" things know nothing at all. I have
nothing against "Catholics" I just think their religion stinks!

The point is they worship Mary when God says to worship Him.

They call their priests father, holy father and most holy father when
Christ says call NO MAN father on this earth because Christians have a
HEAVENLY FATHER.

The list could go on for page after page after page.

Go down to the woods and get yourself a stick, or go to Home Depot and
get a board. Make yourself a nice paddle and stir all the stink you like.

Lu 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall
separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out
your name as evil, for the Son of man’s sake.

Mt 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you,
and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

=============

§ Dr. Artaud § wrote:

Al Patrick wrote in
:

Hi Al, I'm still waiting for the response to my last posts to you. I
remember that you made some amorphous comments, but nothing of substance.
I know that you are consumed by your hatred for Catholics, I just wonder
why?

I suspect a little too much Brother Stair and Pastor Peters and a little
too little critical thinking on your part. Also, I just don't understand
why people such as yourself feel free to pick and choose what you wish to
adhere to in the Bible and what you wish to ignore.

On an interesting note, Alex Jones is currently listening to a caller
with, you guessed it, the belief that Catholics are trying to destroy the
U.S. Constitution. I truly feel sorry for those like Al Patrick who spend
every waking moment suffering neurosis about Catholics.

Unlike Stadtmiller, Alex kicks the callers ass. The caller indicated that
there was a conspiracy in the 1800s to gain control of the U.S. by
immigrating Irish and Italians to the U.S., in theory, since they are
Catholics, therefore they will gain control. Alex puts him in his place
by saying that if they were trying to do this, they were failing since
the U.S. Catholic Church is falling apart. He also mentioned the
unfortunate demise of President Kennedy, also a Catholic. The caller
believes that the Catholic Church is immigrating Mexicans to try to gain
control, just like Al Patrick believes. (Maybe it was Al).

Contrary to your belief, Faith alone is likely not sufficient.

James 2:20 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

James 2:26 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is
dead also.

How about a refresher on my original comments. You seem to have a fear of
Scarlet and Purple, a complete disregard for "Love your enemy", as well
as obsessed by the Whore of Babylon. I posted the following, quoting from
the King James version, yet you did not answer.


With Regards Always

Dr. Artaud



1 John 4:20 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he
that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom
he hath not seen?

Or:

Luke 6:27-38 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which
hate you,

Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.

And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and
him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.

Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy
goods ask them not again.

And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also
love those that love them.

And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for
sinners also do even the same.


Exodus 28:4 (King James Version)
And these are the garments which they shall make; a breastplate, and an
ephod, and a robe, and a broidered coat, a mitre, and a girdle: and they
shall make holy garments for Aaron thy brother, and his sons, that he may
minister unto me in the priest's office.
And they shall take gold, and blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine
linen.
And they shall make the ephod of gold, of blue, and of purple, of
scarlet, and fine twined linen, with cunning work.
And the curious girdle of the ephod, which is upon it, shall be of the
same, according to the work thereof; even of gold, of blue, and purple,
and scarlet, and fine twined linen.


"#4: Clothed in Purple and Red
Hunt states, "She [the Whore] is clothed in 'purple and scarlet' (verse
4), the colors of the Catholic clergy." He then cites the Catholic
Encyclopedia to show that bishops wear certain purple vestments and
cardinals wear certain red vestments.

Hunt ignores the obvious symbolic meaning of the colors-purple for
royalty and red for the blood of Christian martyrs. Instead, he is
suddenly literal in his interpretation. He understood well enough that
the woman symbolizes a city and that the fornication symbolizes something
other than literal sex, but now he wants to assign the colors a literal,
earthly fulfillment in a few vestments of certain Catholic clergy.

Purple and red are not the dominant colors of Catholic clerical
vestments. White is. All priests wear white (including bishops and
cardinals when they are saying Mass)-even the pope does so.

The purple and scarlet of the Whore are contrasted with the white of the
New Jerusalem, the Bride of Christ (Rev. 19:8). This is a problem for
Hunt for three reasons: (a) we have already noted that the dominant color
of Catholic clerical vestments is white, which would identify them with
New Jerusalem if the color is taken literally; (b) the clothing of the
Bride is given a symbolic interpretation ("the righteous acts of the
saints;" 19:8); implying that the clothing of the Whore should also be
given a symbolic meaning; and (c) the identification of the Bride as New
Jerusalem (Rev. 3:12, 21:2, 10) suggests that the Whore may be old
(apostate) Jerusalem-a contrast used elsewhere in Scripture (Gal.
4:25-26).

Hunt ignores the liturgical meaning of purple and red in Catholic
symbolism. Purple symbolizes repentance, and red honors the blood of
Christ and the Christian martyrs.

It is appropriate for Catholic clerics to wear purple and scarlet, if for
no other reason because they have been liturgical colors of the true
religion since ancient Israel.

Hunt neglects to remind his readers that God commanded that scarlet yarn
and wool be used in liturgical ceremonies (Lev. 14:4, 6, 49-52; Num.
19:6), and that God commanded that the priests' vestments be made with
purple and scarlet yarn (Ex. 28:4-8, 15, 33, 39:1-8, 24, 29)."


http://www.catholic.com/library/Hunt...of_Babylon.asp
"The Greek word in this passage is horos. Of the sixty-five occurrences
of this word in the New Testament, only three are rendered "hill" by the
King James Version. The remaining sixty-two are translated as "mountain"
or "mount." Modern Bibles have similar ratios. If the passage states that
the Whore sits on "seven mountains," it could refer to anything.
Mountains are common biblical symbols, often symbolizing whole kingdoms
(cf. Ps. 68:15; Dan. 2:35; Amos 4:1, 6:1; Obad. 8-21). The Whore's seven
mountains might be seven kingdoms she reigns over, or seven kingdoms with
which she has something in common."

Al Patrick wrote in
:

Some people who claim to "know" things know nothing at all. I have
nothing against "Catholics" I just think their religion stinks!

Well, in fact Al, believing that Catholicism stinks is having something
against Catholics. I certainly uphold your right to your opinions, even
your right to express your opinions, that is why I read your posts and
that is what America is all about.


The point is they worship Mary when God says to worship Him.

They call their priests father, holy father and most holy father when
Christ says call NO MAN father on this earth because Christians have a
HEAVENLY FATHER.

What's the matter Al, don't you have (or didn't you have, if he is
deceased) an earthly father? Indeed I would imagine that most "born
again" Christians have fathers, not limited to the one of which you
speak.

The problem with your following comments Al is that I don't hate you, you
hate me. You essentially are describing your feeling towards Catholics,
you hate and revile them, therefore they are "Blessed". Thanks for your
tacit endorsement. Think about it Al, you and others of your ilk hate and
revile a specific group, so they must indeed be blessed.

Al, don't martyr yourself. I think that you enjoy the harsh comments that
other posters make against you. You believe that this empowers you
somehow, and that you are doing the good work. In some ways you are, but
you are allowing yourself to be consumed by hatred, and you know that it
is in direct contravention to God's laws.

Luke 6:29-31 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and
him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.

Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy
goods ask them not again.

And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.


Luke 6:35 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for
sinners also do even the same.

And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye?
for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.

But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing
again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of
the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.

Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.



Al, how much, other than self imposed martyrdom, are you implementing the
above verses? I suspect Al that you are not interested in God's words,
but in those of Al Patrick, Brother Stair, and Pastor Peters. You cannot
be a Godly man filled with hatred, there is no such thing.

God Bless (seriously) Al, and regards.

Dr. Artaud

P.S., where's your answer to my post listed below? You are a rascally
one, you keep avoiding addressing these issues.



The list could go on for page after page after page.

Go down to the woods and get yourself a stick, or go to Home Depot and
get a board. Make yourself a nice paddle and stir all the stink you
like.

Lu 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall
separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out
your name as evil, for the Son of man’s sake.

Mt 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you,
and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.


1 John 4:20 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for
he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God
whom he hath not seen?

Or:

Luke 6:27-38 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them
which hate you,

Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use
you.

And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other;
and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.

Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away
thy goods ask them not again.

And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them
likewise.

For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners
also love those that love them.

And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye?
for sinners also do even the same.


Exodus 28:4 (King James Version)
And these are the garments which they shall make; a breastplate, and
an ephod, and a robe, and a broidered coat, a mitre, and a girdle:
and they shall make holy garments for Aaron thy brother, and his
sons, that he may minister unto me in the priest's office.
And they shall take gold, and blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine
linen.
And they shall make the ephod of gold, of blue, and of purple, of
scarlet, and fine twined linen, with cunning work.
And the curious girdle of the ephod, which is upon it, shall be of
the same, according to the work thereof; even of gold, of blue, and
purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen.


"#4: Clothed in Purple and Red
Hunt states, "She [the Whore] is clothed in 'purple and scarlet'
(verse 4), the colors of the Catholic clergy." He then cites the
Catholic Encyclopedia to show that bishops wear certain purple
vestments and cardinals wear certain red vestments.

Hunt ignores the obvious symbolic meaning of the colors-purple for
royalty and red for the blood of Christian martyrs. Instead, he is
suddenly literal in his interpretation. He understood well enough
that the woman symbolizes a city and that the fornication symbolizes
something other than literal sex, but now he wants to assign the
colors a literal, earthly fulfillment in a few vestments of certain
Catholic clergy.

Purple and red are not the dominant colors of Catholic clerical
vestments. White is. All priests wear white (including bishops and
cardinals when they are saying Mass)-even the pope does so.

The purple and scarlet of the Whore are contrasted with the white of
the New Jerusalem, the Bride of Christ (Rev. 19:8). This is a problem
for Hunt for three reasons: (a) we have already noted that the
dominant color of Catholic clerical vestments is white, which would
identify them with New Jerusalem if the color is taken literally; (b)
the clothing of the Bride is given a symbolic interpretation ("the
righteous acts of the saints;" 19:8); implying that the clothing of
the Whore should also be given a symbolic meaning; and (c) the
identification of the Bride as New Jerusalem (Rev. 3:12, 21:2, 10)
suggests that the Whore may be old (apostate) Jerusalem-a contrast
used elsewhere in Scripture (Gal. 4:25-26).

Hunt ignores the liturgical meaning of purple and red in Catholic
symbolism. Purple symbolizes repentance, and red honors the blood of
Christ and the Christian martyrs.

It is appropriate for Catholic clerics to wear purple and scarlet, if
for no other reason because they have been liturgical colors of the
true religion since ancient Israel.

Hunt neglects to remind his readers that God commanded that scarlet
yarn and wool be used in liturgical ceremonies (Lev. 14:4, 6, 49-52;
Num. 19:6), and that God commanded that the priests' vestments be
made with purple and scarlet yarn (Ex. 28:4-8, 15, 33, 39:1-8, 24,
29)."

http://www.catholic.com/library/Hunt...of_Babylon.asp
"The Greek word in this passage is horos. Of the sixty-five
occurrences of this word in the New Testament, only three are
rendered "hill" by the King James Version. The remaining sixty-two
are translated as "mountain" or "mount." Modern Bibles have similar
ratios. If the passage states that the Whore sits on "seven
mountains," it could refer to anything. Mountains are common biblical
symbols, often symbolizing whole kingdoms (cf. Ps. 68:15; Dan. 2:35;
Amos 4:1, 6:1; Obad. 8-21). The Whore's seven mountains might be
seven kingdoms she reigns over, or seven kingdoms with which she has
something in common."