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Lucky wrote:
By the way, do these fuse holders have a polarity where they need to be soldered in line properly? No of course not since you can put the fuse in the holder in either way or direction. Just figured I ask. I mean if you're not 100% sure but are 99 9/10% sure, why not close the gap on that 1/10th and ask eh? Lucky Not that it matters much, but I generally put the longer side of the fuse holder on the side that goes to the power supply because you're less likely to have the contact for the fuse touch something it shouldn't when it's unhooked for changing. |
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![]() "Mark S. Holden" wrote in message ... Lucky wrote: By the way, do these fuse holders have a polarity where they need to be soldered in line properly? No of course not since you can put the fuse in the holder in either way or direction. Just figured I ask. I mean if you're not 100% sure but are 99 9/10% sure, why not close the gap on that 1/10th and ask eh? Lucky Not that it matters much, but I generally put the longer side of the fuse holder on the side that goes to the power supply because you're less likely to have the contact for the fuse touch something it shouldn't when it's unhooked for changing. Hiya Mark Yes good thinking. I can see something like that happening after moving, pulling or repositioning the cables. In fact,I'm going to put a tiny piece of tape around the holder to seal it. BTW, should the fuse be as close to the radio or PSU? I was going to put it close to the PSU since that's where all the dangerous current can originate from. 1] But now I'm of the understanding I'm really protecting the PSU and it's environment with this added fuse more then protecting the radio itself, correct? 2] So if it's the radio that may cause the current failure drain, then the fuse should be closer to the radio then the PSU correct? I decided to do all this to protect the radio from the PSU since I'm not 100% sure the PSU doesn't have any defects from perhaps lets say a fall. The PSU could work perfectly but have a solder joint ready to break. But I would have done this **anyway. This is my first experience with such a powerfull power supply that can totally fry any electrical component conected to it. It kinda intimidates me a little compared to all the small low powered wall worts I'm used to ![]() I have always put a failsafe in place in most aspects of my life. If I can fit a level of added security in case the major one fails I'll do it. Remember it's always better to be SAFE then SORRY. Always happy to hear from you Lucky |
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Lucky wrote:
"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message ... Lucky wrote: By the way, do these fuse holders have a polarity where they need to be soldered in line properly? No of course not since you can put the fuse in the holder in either way or direction. Just figured I ask. I mean if you're not 100% sure but are 99 9/10% sure, why not close the gap on that 1/10th and ask eh? Lucky Not that it matters much, but I generally put the longer side of the fuse holder on the side that goes to the power supply because you're less likely to have the contact for the fuse touch something it shouldn't when it's unhooked for changing. Hiya Mark Yes good thinking. I can see something like that happening after moving, pulling or repositioning the cables. In fact,I'm going to put a tiny piece of tape around the holder to seal it. BTW, should the fuse be as close to the radio or PSU? I was going to put it close to the PSU since that's where all the dangerous current can originate from. That's what I'd do. 1] But now I'm of the understanding I'm really protecting the PSU and it's environment with this added fuse more then protecting the radio itself, correct? Well, if you got a big voltage spike, the fuse might blow before the radio, but odds are the radio will blow to protect the fuse. 2] So if it's the radio that may cause the current failure drain, then the fuse should be closer to the radio then the PSU correct? No. If for example the wires between the PS and the radio got shorted between the PS and the fuse, the fuse won't blow, and the wires will get nice and hot. I decided to do all this to protect the radio from the PSU since I'm not 100% sure the PSU doesn't have any defects from perhaps lets say a fall. The PSU could work perfectly but have a solder joint ready to break. But I would have done this **anyway. This is my first experience with such a powerfull power supply that can totally fry any electrical component conected to it. It kinda intimidates me a little compared to all the small low powered wall worts I'm used to ![]() I have always put a failsafe in place in most aspects of my life. If I can fit a level of added security in case the major one fails I'll do it. Remember it's always better to be SAFE then SORRY. Always happy to hear from you Lucky If you want to protect the radio, your best bet is probably to add some surge protection - a 15v MOV hooked up on the radio side of the fuse might help blow the fuse before the radio gets fried. |
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![]() "Mark S. Holden" wrote in message ... Lucky wrote: "Mark S. Holden" wrote in message ... Lucky wrote: By the way, do these fuse holders have a polarity where they need to be soldered in line properly? No of course not since you can put the fuse in the holder in either way or direction. Just figured I ask. I mean if you're not 100% sure but are 99 9/10% sure, why not close the gap on that 1/10th and ask eh? Lucky Not that it matters much, but I generally put the longer side of the fuse holder on the side that goes to the power supply because you're less likely to have the contact for the fuse touch something it shouldn't when it's unhooked for changing. Hiya Mark Yes good thinking. I can see something like that happening after moving, pulling or repositioning the cables. In fact,I'm going to put a tiny piece of tape around the holder to seal it. BTW, should the fuse be as close to the radio or PSU? I was going to put it close to the PSU since that's where all the dangerous current can originate from. That's what I'd do. 1] But now I'm of the understanding I'm really protecting the PSU and it's environment with this added fuse more then protecting the radio itself, correct? Well, if you got a big voltage spike, the fuse might blow before the radio, but odds are the radio will blow to protect the fuse. 2] So if it's the radio that may cause the current failure drain, then the fuse should be closer to the radio then the PSU correct? No. If for example the wires between the PS and the radio got shorted between the PS and the fuse, the fuse won't blow, and the wires will get nice and hot. I decided to do all this to protect the radio from the PSU since I'm not 100% sure the PSU doesn't have any defects from perhaps lets say a fall. The PSU could work perfectly but have a solder joint ready to break. But I would have done this **anyway. This is my first experience with such a powerfull power supply that can totally fry any electrical component conected to it. It kinda intimidates me a little compared to all the small low powered wall worts I'm used to ![]() I have always put a failsafe in place in most aspects of my life. If I can fit a level of added security in case the major one fails I'll do it. Remember it's always better to be SAFE then SORRY. Always happy to hear from you Lucky If you want to protect the radio, your best bet is probably to add some surge protection - a 15v MOV hooked up on the radio side of the fuse might help blow the fuse before the radio gets fried. OK Mark, This MOV [metal oxide varistor}, is it a component I can buy from Radio Shack and solder in line, or is it an actual physical strip that you plug the PSU into like a regualr surge protector? So pick up a 15v MOV and solder it in line before the fuse closer to the radio and the fuse holder itself closest to the PSU? Right? Wow this is great help and advise. Thanks a lot Lucky |
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Lucky wrote:
"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message ... Lucky wrote: "Mark S. Holden" wrote in message ... Lucky wrote: By the way, do these fuse holders have a polarity where they need to be soldered in line properly? No of course not since you can put the fuse in the holder in either way or direction. Just figured I ask. I mean if you're not 100% sure but are 99 9/10% sure, why not close the gap on that 1/10th and ask eh? Lucky Not that it matters much, but I generally put the longer side of the fuse holder on the side that goes to the power supply because you're less likely to have the contact for the fuse touch something it shouldn't when it's unhooked for changing. Hiya Mark Yes good thinking. I can see something like that happening after moving, pulling or repositioning the cables. In fact,I'm going to put a tiny piece of tape around the holder to seal it. BTW, should the fuse be as close to the radio or PSU? I was going to put it close to the PSU since that's where all the dangerous current can originate from. That's what I'd do. 1] But now I'm of the understanding I'm really protecting the PSU and it's environment with this added fuse more then protecting the radio itself, correct? Well, if you got a big voltage spike, the fuse might blow before the radio, but odds are the radio will blow to protect the fuse. 2] So if it's the radio that may cause the current failure drain, then the fuse should be closer to the radio then the PSU correct? No. If for example the wires between the PS and the radio got shorted between the PS and the fuse, the fuse won't blow, and the wires will get nice and hot. I decided to do all this to protect the radio from the PSU since I'm not 100% sure the PSU doesn't have any defects from perhaps lets say a fall. The PSU could work perfectly but have a solder joint ready to break. But I would have done this **anyway. This is my first experience with such a powerfull power supply that can totally fry any electrical component conected to it. It kinda intimidates me a little compared to all the small low powered wall worts I'm used to ![]() I have always put a failsafe in place in most aspects of my life. If I can fit a level of added security in case the major one fails I'll do it. Remember it's always better to be SAFE then SORRY. Always happy to hear from you Lucky If you want to protect the radio, your best bet is probably to add some surge protection - a 15v MOV hooked up on the radio side of the fuse might help blow the fuse before the radio gets fried. OK Mark, This MOV [metal oxide varistor}, is it a component I can buy from Radio Shack and solder in line, or is it an actual physical strip that you plug the PSU into like a regualr surge protector? So pick up a 15v MOV and solder it in line before the fuse closer to the radio and the fuse holder itself closest to the PSU? Right? Wow this is great help and advise. Thanks a lot Lucky I doubt you'll find a 15v MOV at radio shack unless it's in a special order catalog. It would get hooked in after the fuse, and before the radio. The hope is the current draw from the MOV clamping down on the voltage spike will help blow the fuse before your radio gets fried. I don't think this will protect your radio from a serious spike, but you're not likely to spend more than a few bucks for a mov, so what the heck. |
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![]() "Mark S. Holden" wrote in message ... Lucky wrote: "Mark S. Holden" wrote in message ... Lucky wrote: "Mark S. Holden" wrote in message ... Lucky wrote: By the way, do these fuse holders have a polarity where they need to be soldered in line properly? No of course not since you can put the fuse in the holder in either way or direction. Just figured I ask. I mean if you're not 100% sure but are 99 9/10% sure, why not close the gap on that 1/10th and ask eh? Lucky Not that it matters much, but I generally put the longer side of the fuse holder on the side that goes to the power supply because you're less likely to have the contact for the fuse touch something it shouldn't when it's unhooked for changing. Hiya Mark Yes good thinking. I can see something like that happening after moving, pulling or repositioning the cables. In fact,I'm going to put a tiny piece of tape around the holder to seal it. BTW, should the fuse be as close to the radio or PSU? I was going to put it close to the PSU since that's where all the dangerous current can originate from. That's what I'd do. 1] But now I'm of the understanding I'm really protecting the PSU and it's environment with this added fuse more then protecting the radio itself, correct? Well, if you got a big voltage spike, the fuse might blow before the radio, but odds are the radio will blow to protect the fuse. 2] So if it's the radio that may cause the current failure drain, then the fuse should be closer to the radio then the PSU correct? No. If for example the wires between the PS and the radio got shorted between the PS and the fuse, the fuse won't blow, and the wires will get nice and hot. I decided to do all this to protect the radio from the PSU since I'm not 100% sure the PSU doesn't have any defects from perhaps lets say a fall. The PSU could work perfectly but have a solder joint ready to break. But I would have done this **anyway. This is my first experience with such a powerfull power supply that can totally fry any electrical component conected to it. It kinda intimidates me a little compared to all the small low powered wall worts I'm used to ![]() I have always put a failsafe in place in most aspects of my life. If I can fit a level of added security in case the major one fails I'll do it. Remember it's always better to be SAFE then SORRY. Always happy to hear from you Lucky If you want to protect the radio, your best bet is probably to add some surge protection - a 15v MOV hooked up on the radio side of the fuse might help blow the fuse before the radio gets fried. OK Mark, This MOV [metal oxide varistor}, is it a component I can buy from Radio Shack and solder in line, or is it an actual physical strip that you plug the PSU into like a regualr surge protector? So pick up a 15v MOV and solder it in line before the fuse closer to the radio and the fuse holder itself closest to the PSU? Right? Wow this is great help and advise. Thanks a lot Lucky I doubt you'll find a 15v MOV at radio shack unless it's in a special order catalog. It would get hooked in after the fuse, and before the radio. The hope is the current draw from the MOV clamping down on the voltage spike will help blow the fuse before your radio gets fried. I don't think this will protect your radio from a serious spike, but you're not likely to spend more than a few bucks for a mov, so what the heck. Mark, Ratso Shackups only shows 1 MOV. Here is the product and 2nd link is the specs. http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...t%5Fid=276-568 specs: http://support.radioshack.com/suppor...oc38/38010.htm Lucky |
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Lucky wrote:
Mark, Ratso Shackups only shows 1 MOV. Here is the product and 2nd link is the specs. http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...t%5Fid=276-568 specs: http://support.radioshack.com/suppor...oc38/38010.htm Lucky That MOV is intended for use with 120vac. It won't do anything unless it sees at least 184 volts. With that MOV on the 13.8v line, if the fuse blows because of too much voltage, odds are there will be too much smoke pouring out of your radio to find the fuse holder so you can change it. You want one rated to start triggering just a little beyond what your 13.8v power supply should put out. I think one rated for 15v is probably optimum, and I don't think I'd bother with anything designed to trigger above 17v. |
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