Program raises spying concern

STATE NATIONAL GUARD UNIT SET UP TO DETER TERRORISM MONITORED ANTI-WAR
RALLY

By Dion Nissenbaum

Mercury News Sacramento Bureau


SACRAMENTO - Three decades after aggressive military spying on
Americans created a national furor, California's National Guard has
quietly set up a special intelligence unit that has been given ``broad
authority'' to monitor, analyze and distribute information on
potential terrorist threats, the Mercury News has learned.

Known as the Information Synchronization, Knowledge Management and
Intelligence Fusion program, the project is part of an expanding
nationwide effort to better integrate military intelligence into
global anti-terrorism initiatives.

Although Guard officials said the new unit would not collect
information on American citizens, top National Guard officials have
already been involved in tracking at least one recent Mother's Day
anti-war rally organized by families of slain American soldiers,
according to e-mails obtained by the Mercury News.

Past abuses recalled

Creation of California's intelligence unit is already raising concerns
for civil libertarians who point to a string of abuses in the 1960s
and 1970s, when the military collected information on more than
100,000 Americans, infiltrated church youth groups, posed as reporters
to interview activists, monitored peaceful protests and even attended
an elementary school Halloween party in search of a ``dissident.''

``The National Guard doesn't need to do this,'' said Christopher Pyle,
a former Army intelligence officer who first exposed the military's
domestic spying operations in 1970. ``Its job is not to investigate
individuals, but to clear streets, protect facilities and help first
responders.''

Top Guard officers said they have no intentions of breaking
long-established rules barring the military from gathering information
on Americans and that the evolving program is meant to help California
and the nation thwart terrorist attacks.

``We do not do any type of surveillance or human intelligence or
mixing with crowds,'' said Lt. Col. Stan Zezotarski. ``The National
Guard does not operate in that way. We have always had a policy where
we respect the rights of citizens.''

Generally, the National Guard is called upon to help the state deal
with natural disasters and riots. But the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan
have put major strains on the military, which has started drawing more
on Guard soldiers to fight overseas. And now Guard units are being
integrated into anti-terrorism efforts in the United States.

The intelligence unit was quietly established last year by Maj. Gen.
Thomas Eres, the National Guard leader who was forced by the
Schwarzenegger administration to retire this month amid allegations
that he failed to prove his shooting skills for a trip to Iraq, set up
a questionable military flight for a Republican friend's political
group and improperly used money meant to stem the flow of drugs for
anti-terrorism programs.

Right before Eres retired, the Guard hired its first director for the
intelligence unit who has ``broad authority'' and is expected to
``exercise a high degree of independent judgment and discretion,''
according to the job description obtained by the Mercury News.

``However, highly controversial or precedent-setting decisions,
directives and policies are discussed with the appropriate senior
leadership prior to implementation,'' the description states.

A one-stop shop

Col. Robert J. O'Neill, a veteran intelligence officer who started
last week as director of the new program, said he envisions his team
as being a one-stop shop for local, state and national law enforcement
to share information. Intelligence officers will have access to
sensitive national security information that they can analyze and
potentially share with state and local law enforcement, he said.

``We are trying to integrate into their systems and bring them
information that they don't have,'' O'Neill said.

He said his unit would not cross any legal lines into spying on
Americans. But the Guard's role in monitoring at least one
demonstration has already alarmed civil libertarians.

Last month, a group of anti-war activists, including the parents of
American soldiers killed in Iraq, held a small Mother's Day rally at
the Vietnam Veterans Memorial near the California Capitol to call for
the return of all National Guard troops by Labor Day.

Three days before the rally, as a courtesy to the military, an aide in
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's press office alerted the Guard to the
event, according to e-mails obtained by the Mercury News.

The information was passed up the chain of command directly to Eres
and other top Guard officials including Col. Jeff Davis, who oversees
O'Neill's operation.

E-mail reveals actions

``Sir,'' Guard chief of staff Col. John Moorman wrote in the e-mail to
Eres that was copied to Davis and other top commanders. ``Information
you wanted on Sunday's demonstration at the Capitol.''

In response, Davis indicated that Guard intelligence officers were
tracking the rally.

``Thanks,'' Davis wrote. ``Forwarding same to our Intell. folks who
continue to monitor.''

That rainy Sunday, the protest organized by Gold Star Families for
Peace, Raging Grannies and CodePink drew about three dozen supporters.

Guard spokesman Zezotarski said the monitoring did not involve
anything more than keeping tabs on the protest through the media and
that no one went to observe the demonstration.

But he said the military would be ``negligent'' in not tracking such
anti-war rallies in the event that they disintegrate into a riot that
could prompt the governor to call out troops.

``It's nothing subversive,'' Zezotarski said. ``Because who knows who
could infiltrate that type of group and try to stir something up?
After all, we live in the age of terrorism, so who knows?''

Civil libertarians scoffed at such defenses.

``That's ludicrous,'' said Joseph Onek, a former Carter and Clinton
administration official who now heads the Liberty and Security
Initiative for the Constitution Project at Georgetown University.
``That's not what the American people expect its military to be
doing.''

Pyle, the Army officer who exposed the abuses in the 1970s and is now
a professor at Mount Holyoke College in Massachusetts, said that the
evolving intelligence programs are susceptible to dangerous ``mission
creep'' that led to overaggressive tactics during the Vietnam War.

Since the Civil War, the United States has tried to create firm
barriers preventing the military from getting involved in domestic
issues. The 1878 Posse Comitatus Act prevents the U.S. military from
taking part in domestic law enforcement.

Military role expands

The Army got involved with collecting intelligence on Americans in the
1960s when it was called in to deal with civil rights protests and
riots. Its role expanded as the decade wore on and the anti-Vietnam
War movement grew more confrontational.

At the time, according to congressional records, the military
collected files on more than 100,000 Americans and embraced aggressive
tactics to try to undermine anti-war groups, including attending a
Halloween party for kids and infiltrating church youth groups.

In response, Congress and the military set up new rules to strictly
regulate military spying in the United States.

But the Sept. 11 attacks raised concerns that the controls had gone
too far. Since then, the FBI and military have been expanding their
intelligence operations.

The notion of creating intelligence ``fusion centers'' is slowly
gaining momentum. Massachusetts is setting one up, but it is housed in
the state police headquarters, not its National Guard.

Currently, federal law allows the U.S. military to gather information
on Americans under exceptionally tight restrictions. The intelligence
must be essential to their mission, publicly available or related to
national security issues.

The Pentagon has created a new operation in Colorado known as the
Northern Command to help protect the nation from terrorist attacks.
Its leader, Gen. Ralph Eberhart, raised some concerns among civil
libertarians last year after telling a National Guard group that ``we
can't let culture and the way we've always done it stand in the way''
of gathering intelligence.

Last year, the U.S. military came under fire after it was reported
that two Army lawyers in civilian clothes attended a forum on sexism
in Islam and later demanded a roster of those in attendance, along
with a videotape of the conference, after being questioned by three
Middle Eastern men during the event.

Army officials said the attorneys had ``exceeded their authority'' and
ordered a refresher course for agents.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Contact Dion Nissenbaum at dnissenbaum@ mercurynews.com or (916)
441-4603.

Bitte. Ya vol mein herr; Ve eleck-tit ein man who duss not even
spracht der leng-vitch in Cally-fornya!

On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:07:45 GMT, David wrote:

Program raises spying concern

STATE NATIONAL GUARD UNIT SET UP TO DETER TERRORISM MONITORED ANTI-WAR
RALLY

By Dion Nissenbaum

Mercury News Sacramento Bureau


SACRAMENTO - Three decades after aggressive military spying on
Americans created a national furor, California's National Guard has
quietly set up a special intelligence unit that has been given ``broad
authority'' to monitor, analyze and distribute information on
potential terrorist threats, the Mercury News has learned.

Known as the Information Synchronization, Knowledge Management and
Intelligence Fusion program, the project is part of an expanding
nationwide effort to better integrate military intelligence into
global anti-terrorism initiatives.

Although Guard officials said the new unit would not collect
information on American citizens, top National Guard officials have
already been involved in tracking at least one recent Mother's Day
anti-war rally organized by families of slain American soldiers,
according to e-mails obtained by the Mercury News.

Past abuses recalled

Creation of California's intelligence unit is already raising concerns
for civil libertarians who point to a string of abuses in the 1960s
and 1970s, when the military collected information on more than
100,000 Americans, infiltrated church youth groups, posed as reporters
to interview activists, monitored peaceful protests and even attended
an elementary school Halloween party in search of a ``dissident.''

``The National Guard doesn't need to do this,'' said Christopher Pyle,
a former Army intelligence officer who first exposed the military's
domestic spying operations in 1970. ``Its job is not to investigate
individuals, but to clear streets, protect facilities and help first
responders.''

Top Guard officers said they have no intentions of breaking
long-established rules barring the military from gathering information
on Americans and that the evolving program is meant to help California
and the nation thwart terrorist attacks.

``We do not do any type of surveillance or human intelligence or
mixing with crowds,'' said Lt. Col. Stan Zezotarski. ``The National
Guard does not operate in that way. We have always had a policy where
we respect the rights of citizens.''

Generally, the National Guard is called upon to help the state deal
with natural disasters and riots. But the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan
have put major strains on the military, which has started drawing more
on Guard soldiers to fight overseas. And now Guard units are being
integrated into anti-terrorism efforts in the United States.

The intelligence unit was quietly established last year by Maj. Gen.
Thomas Eres, the National Guard leader who was forced by the
Schwarzenegger administration to retire this month amid allegations
that he failed to prove his shooting skills for a trip to Iraq, set up
a questionable military flight for a Republican friend's political
group and improperly used money meant to stem the flow of drugs for
anti-terrorism programs.

Right before Eres retired, the Guard hired its first director for the
intelligence unit who has ``broad authority'' and is expected to
``exercise a high degree of independent judgment and discretion,''
according to the job description obtained by the Mercury News.

``However, highly controversial or precedent-setting decisions,
directives and policies are discussed with the appropriate senior
leadership prior to implementation,'' the description states.

A one-stop shop

Col. Robert J. O'Neill, a veteran intelligence officer who started
last week as director of the new program, said he envisions his team
as being a one-stop shop for local, state and national law enforcement
to share information. Intelligence officers will have access to
sensitive national security information that they can analyze and
potentially share with state and local law enforcement, he said.

``We are trying to integrate into their systems and bring them
information that they don't have,'' O'Neill said.

He said his unit would not cross any legal lines into spying on
Americans. But the Guard's role in monitoring at least one
demonstration has already alarmed civil libertarians.

Last month, a group of anti-war activists, including the parents of
American soldiers killed in Iraq, held a small Mother's Day rally at
the Vietnam Veterans Memorial near the California Capitol to call for
the return of all National Guard troops by Labor Day.

Three days before the rally, as a courtesy to the military, an aide in
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's press office alerted the Guard to the
event, according to e-mails obtained by the Mercury News.

The information was passed up the chain of command directly to Eres
and other top Guard officials including Col. Jeff Davis, who oversees
O'Neill's operation.

E-mail reveals actions

``Sir,'' Guard chief of staff Col. John Moorman wrote in the e-mail to
Eres that was copied to Davis and other top commanders. ``Information
you wanted on Sunday's demonstration at the Capitol.''

In response, Davis indicated that Guard intelligence officers were
tracking the rally.

``Thanks,'' Davis wrote. ``Forwarding same to our Intell. folks who
continue to monitor.''

That rainy Sunday, the protest organized by Gold Star Families for
Peace, Raging Grannies and CodePink drew about three dozen supporters.

Guard spokesman Zezotarski said the monitoring did not involve
anything more than keeping tabs on the protest through the media and
that no one went to observe the demonstration.

But he said the military would be ``negligent'' in not tracking such
anti-war rallies in the event that they disintegrate into a riot that
could prompt the governor to call out troops.

``It's nothing subversive,'' Zezotarski said. ``Because who knows who
could infiltrate that type of group and try to stir something up?
After all, we live in the age of terrorism, so who knows?''

Civil libertarians scoffed at such defenses.

``That's ludicrous,'' said Joseph Onek, a former Carter and Clinton
administration official who now heads the Liberty and Security
Initiative for the Constitution Project at Georgetown University.
``That's not what the American people expect its military to be
doing.''

Pyle, the Army officer who exposed the abuses in the 1970s and is now
a professor at Mount Holyoke College in Massachusetts, said that the
evolving intelligence programs are susceptible to dangerous ``mission
creep'' that led to overaggressive tactics during the Vietnam War.

Since the Civil War, the United States has tried to create firm
barriers preventing the military from getting involved in domestic
issues. The 1878 Posse Comitatus Act prevents the U.S. military from
taking part in domestic law enforcement.

Military role expands

The Army got involved with collecting intelligence on Americans in the
1960s when it was called in to deal with civil rights protests and
riots. Its role expanded as the decade wore on and the anti-Vietnam
War movement grew more confrontational.

At the time, according to congressional records, the military
collected files on more than 100,000 Americans and embraced aggressive
tactics to try to undermine anti-war groups, including attending a
Halloween party for kids and infiltrating church youth groups.

In response, Congress and the military set up new rules to strictly
regulate military spying in the United States.

But the Sept. 11 attacks raised concerns that the controls had gone
too far. Since then, the FBI and military have been expanding their
intelligence operations.

The notion of creating intelligence ``fusion centers'' is slowly
gaining momentum. Massachusetts is setting one up, but it is housed in
the state police headquarters, not its National Guard.

Currently, federal law allows the U.S. military to gather information
on Americans under exceptionally tight restrictions. The intelligence
must be essential to their mission, publicly available or related to
national security issues.

The Pentagon has created a new operation in Colorado known as the
Northern Command to help protect the nation from terrorist attacks.
Its leader, Gen. Ralph Eberhart, raised some concerns among civil
libertarians last year after telling a National Guard group that ``we
can't let culture and the way we've always done it stand in the way''
of gathering intelligence.

Last year, the U.S. military came under fire after it was reported
that two Army lawyers in civilian clothes attended a forum on sexism
in Islam and later demanded a roster of those in attendance, along
with a videotape of the conference, after being questioned by three
Middle Eastern men during the event.

Army officials said the attorneys had ``exceeded their authority'' and
ordered a refresher course for agents.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Contact Dion Nissenbaum at dnissenbaum@ mercurynews.com or (916)
441-4603.

"Dr." David, a simple factoid for your brains feeble digestive ability.
EVERY anti-war rally in the U.S., at least since the Vietnam War, has been
organized directly, or indirectly through many "front" organizations, by the
Communist Party.

The Communist Party has a long history of high-jacking any so called
humanitarian causes that support their agenda. They use layers upon layers
of "fronts" to hide the fact that they are The Communist Party.
These multiple layers of "fronts" are unmistakably similar to the political
social structures used by the Chinese Communist Party.

More - continued below.

"David" wrote in message
...
Program raises spying concern

STATE NATIONAL GUARD UNIT SET UP TO DETER TERRORISM MONITORED ANTI-WAR
RALLY


This is a fabulous article to study the technique of western left-wing media
Communist propaganda.
I mean that with complete and absolute seriousness.

Please notice the article NEVER mentions the reason WHY they were being
spied upon. The article simply goes on and on continueously spouting
anti-government rhetoric. Finally, at the bitter end it casually mentions
the groups that wewre alegedly spied upon as if they were poor inocent
victoms of some imagined government conspiracy. The focus is clearly on
aleged "spying". Sounds oh, so scary! Doesn't say they were being
observed. There is a big difference. Scare scare scare.

If you analyse this sequence and have any familiarity with propaganda from
Communist countries like N.Korea it will knock you right over the head it is
so obvious.

Let us now examine who these groups are that were alegedly victems of
government spying and perhaps get an idea of why they were being "observed".

Using the greatest Communist/Socialist/Left-wing/Progressive network
discovery tool on the net.
www.DICOVERTHENETWORK.com

Who is "Gold Star Families for Peace" - GSFP?

On March 19, 2005, GSFP helped organize a major anti-war protest in Fort
Bragg, North Carolina to mark the second anniversary of the start of the War
in Iraq; the rally drew more than 3,000 protesters.

Prominent member of GSFP is Lila Lipscomb of Flint, Michigan, who was
featured in Michael Moore's film Fahrenheit 911.
http://www.discoverthenetwork.com/gr...asp?grpid=7075

Even though GSFP has a relatively small membership (just 60 families as of
March 2005), the group works closely with other anti-war organizations such
as:

Code Pink - Code Pink was founded by four experienced activists and hardcore
Communists - Jodie Evans, Medea Benjamin, Diane Wilson, and a radical Wiccan
activist calling herself Starhawk. Ms. Evans is the nominal leader of the
organization, which works closely with Medea Benjamin's group Global
Exchange, which in turn maintains strong ties to the Communist Workers World
Party (WWP). Code Pink also works hand-in-hand with United For Peace and
Justice, whose leader Leslie Cagan is a longtime devotee of Fidel Castro and
the Socialist Party USA. Throughout the 1990s, many of the Marxists
currently working for Code Pink organized anti-free trade protests - some of
them violent - and filed numerous high-profile lawsuits that forced American
corporations to spend millions of dollars defending themselves.
http://www.discoverthenetwork.com/gr...asp?grpid=6149

Military Families Speak Out - MFSO has received positive press in such
publications as Socialist Worker and the International Socialist Review.
http://www.discoverthenetwork.com/gr...asp?grpid=7071

Veterans for Peace - in 1989 VFP "received [an] invitation," apparently from
the Marxist Sandinista government, "to serve as Official Observers during
the February 1990 Nicaraguan elections." The Sandinistas had reason to
expect that the 50 election monitors from sympathetic VFP would lend
legitimacy to their electoral victory by declaring the vote clean and
honest.

But the Sandinistas lost the election. And, as its own written history makes
clear, at the instant that this pro-Castro regime ceased to rule Nicaragua
the VFP ended all assistance to the country.

VFP suddenly stopped sending water purification experts and truckloads of
food, medicine and toys for the Nicaraguan poor - who were , after all,
still in need. A cynic might conclude that VFP aid had been provided only to
help the Marxist Sandinistas entrench and retain their power.

But in 1990 VFP did have the money to send representatives to the 45th
Anniversary of World War II Victory Day in the Soviet Union. VFP joined
Soviet Union veterans in signing a joint statement "calling for an end to
war."

In 2000 VFP aided Saddam Hussein as it did the Sandinistas, providing
assistance by way of water-treatment facilities to remedy a problem its web
site says was caused by American-led "sanctions" against the Iraqi
government.

In 2001 VFP co-sponsored, along with the International Action Center that
has ties to the Communist front group International ANSWER, the "Korean War
Tribunal" held in New York. This "tribunal" was a political show trial
designed to produce anti-American propaganda for the world's Leftist media.

VFP gatherings having featured such Leftist speakers as the late Senator
Paul Wellstone (D.-Minnesota), and Congressional Progressive Caucus members
Dennis Kucinich (D- Ohio) and James McDermott (D - Washington). This caucus,
of course, is an almost-openly-socialist entity. The VFP web site names no
moderate or conservative military veteran officeholder who has ever been a
featured speaker at one of its meetings.

At a 2003 International ANSWER-sponsored anti-war rally in San Francisco,
local VFP leader Jim Long spoke. As reported by Greg Yardley of
FrontPageMagazine.com, Long described being at a rally in Cuba and observing
"how Castro was loved by his people, in contrast to President Bush, who had
to be protected from protestors in a 'quasi-military' operation." [In Cuba,
of course, anyone who dared protest against Fidel could face prison,
torture, or a firing squad.]

Jim Long, wrote Yardley, then claimed that "it's hard for me to determine
where the police state is and where the free state is." Long told the
cheering anti-war crowd that "every November 11th he goes to Cuba to take
part in a special commemorative ceremony to honor Cuba veterans."

The President of Veterans for Peace is David Cline. He is a decorated,
disabled veteran of the Vietnam War. In 1970 he joined Vietnam Veterans
Against the War (VVAW), one of whose leaders was John Kerry. In 2004 Cline
was also the still-existing VVAW organization's National Coordinator. VFP
and VVAW, therefore, have intertwined leadership as well as ideology.

VFP is a member organization of the
Win Without War
http://www.discoverthenetwork.com/gr...asp?grpid=6935
United for Peace and Justice
http://www.discoverthenetwork.com/gr...asp?grpid=6166
and Abolition 2000 anti-war coalitions
http://www.discoverthenetwork.com/gr...asp?grpid=6765

==================================================

The U.S. has been infiltrated by Communists - be careful out there.

I strongly urge you to listen to this very informative program in its
entirety:

http://archive.wgnradio.com:8080/ram...o/klehr031212m
r.rm

fishbarrel wrote:

"Dr." David, a simple factoid for your brains feeble digestive ability.
EVERY anti-war rally in the U.S., at least since the Vietnam War, has been
organized directly, or indirectly through many "front" organizations, by the
Communist Party.

The Communist Party has a long history of high-jacking any so called
humanitarian causes that support their agenda. They use layers upon layers
of "fronts" to hide the fact that they are The Communist Party.
These multiple layers of "fronts" are unmistakably similar to the political
social structures used by the Chinese Communist Party.

Saying that the hornet's nest of radical leftist organizations is run by
a monolithic Communist Party is like saying that the various Italian
American organized crime operations in NYC, Chicago and Las Vegas are
part of the same giant Mafia, run by a group of guys sitting around a
table planning to knock off Fort Knox like in a 1960s James Bond movie.
It just ain't so. I used to be a foot soldier in the radical left
"movement", and I know from experience that these various groups compete
fiercely, despite all their lofty rhetoric about collective action, and
that they often work at cross purposes and spend most of their time
attacking each other for percieved deviance from the Marxist gospel
instead of attacking the capitalists. A better analogy would be the Red
Guards of China's Cultural Revolution-a many headed monster with the
various heads ferociously attacking each other, a monster that is
impossible for any single Communist Party to control. Any resemblance to
the organizational structures of Communist Parties in the USSR or China
is coincidental, the result of the many headed monster drinking from the
same poison well of Marxist theory. It is this infighting that makes the
Communist monster in America a puny opponent to the capitalists, despite
all its fire breathing. The American Communist "movement" is actually a
paper dragon. The actual CCP is more of a threat to America than
homegrown communism.


More - continued below.

"David" wrote in message
...
Program raises spying concern

STATE NATIONAL GUARD UNIT SET UP TO DETER TERRORISM MONITORED ANTI-WAR
RALLY


This is a fabulous article to study the technique of western left-wing media
Communist propaganda.
I mean that with complete and absolute seriousness.

Please notice the article NEVER mentions the reason WHY they were being
spied upon. The article simply goes on and on continueously spouting
anti-government rhetoric. Finally, at the bitter end it casually mentions
the groups that wewre alegedly spied upon as if they were poor inocent
victoms of some imagined government conspiracy. The focus is clearly on
aleged "spying". Sounds oh, so scary! Doesn't say they were being
observed. There is a big difference. Scare scare scare.

If you analyse this sequence and have any familiarity with propaganda from
Communist countries like N.Korea it will knock you right over the head it is
so obvious.

Let us now examine who these groups are that were alegedly victems of
government spying and perhaps get an idea of why they were being "observed".

Using the greatest Communist/Socialist/Left-wing/Progressive network
discovery tool on the net.
www.DICOVERTHENETWORK.com

Who is "Gold Star Families for Peace" - GSFP?

On March 19, 2005, GSFP helped organize a major anti-war protest in Fort
Bragg, North Carolina to mark the second anniversary of the start of the War
in Iraq; the rally drew more than 3,000 protesters.

Prominent member of GSFP is Lila Lipscomb of Flint, Michigan, who was
featured in Michael Moore's film Fahrenheit 911.
http://www.discoverthenetwork.com/gr...asp?grpid=7075

Even though GSFP has a relatively small membership (just 60 families as of
March 2005), the group works closely with other anti-war organizations such
as:

Code Pink - Code Pink was founded by four experienced activists and hardcore
Communists - Jodie Evans, Medea Benjamin, Diane Wilson, and a radical Wiccan
activist calling herself Starhawk. Ms. Evans is the nominal leader of the
organization, which works closely with Medea Benjamin's group Global
Exchange, which in turn maintains strong ties to the Communist Workers World
Party (WWP). Code Pink also works hand-in-hand with United For Peace and
Justice, whose leader Leslie Cagan is a longtime devotee of Fidel Castro and
the Socialist Party USA. Throughout the 1990s, many of the Marxists
currently working for Code Pink organized anti-free trade protests - some of
them violent - and filed numerous high-profile lawsuits that forced American
corporations to spend millions of dollars defending themselves.
http://www.discoverthenetwork.com/gr...asp?grpid=6149

Military Families Speak Out - MFSO has received positive press in such
publications as Socialist Worker and the International Socialist Review.
http://www.discoverthenetwork.com/gr...asp?grpid=7071

Veterans for Peace - in 1989 VFP "received [an] invitation," apparently from
the Marxist Sandinista government, "to serve as Official Observers during
the February 1990 Nicaraguan elections." The Sandinistas had reason to
expect that the 50 election monitors from sympathetic VFP would lend
legitimacy to their electoral victory by declaring the vote clean and
honest.

But the Sandinistas lost the election. And, as its own written history makes
clear, at the instant that this pro-Castro regime ceased to rule Nicaragua
the VFP ended all assistance to the country.

VFP suddenly stopped sending water purification experts and truckloads of
food, medicine and toys for the Nicaraguan poor - who were , after all,
still in need. A cynic might conclude that VFP aid had been provided only to
help the Marxist Sandinistas entrench and retain their power.

But in 1990 VFP did have the money to send representatives to the 45th
Anniversary of World War II Victory Day in the Soviet Union. VFP joined
Soviet Union veterans in signing a joint statement "calling for an end to
war."

In 2000 VFP aided Saddam Hussein as it did the Sandinistas, providing
assistance by way of water-treatment facilities to remedy a problem its web
site says was caused by American-led "sanctions" against the Iraqi
government.

In 2001 VFP co-sponsored, along with the International Action Center that
has ties to the Communist front group International ANSWER, the "Korean War
Tribunal" held in New York. This "tribunal" was a political show trial
designed to produce anti-American propaganda for the world's Leftist media.

VFP gatherings having featured such Leftist speakers as the late Senator
Paul Wellstone (D.-Minnesota), and Congressional Progressive Caucus members
Dennis Kucinich (D- Ohio) and James McDermott (D - Washington). This caucus,
of course, is an almost-openly-socialist entity. The VFP web site names no
moderate or conservative military veteran officeholder who has ever been a
featured speaker at one of its meetings.

At a 2003 International ANSWER-sponsored anti-war rally in San Francisco,
local VFP leader Jim Long spoke. As reported by Greg Yardley of
FrontPageMagazine.com, Long described being at a rally in Cuba and observing
"how Castro was loved by his people, in contrast to President Bush, who had
to be protected from protestors in a 'quasi-military' operation." [In Cuba,
of course, anyone who dared protest against Fidel could face prison,
torture, or a firing squad.]

Jim Long, wrote Yardley, then claimed that "it's hard for me to determine
where the police state is and where the free state is." Long told the
cheering anti-war crowd that "every November 11th he goes to Cuba to take
part in a special commemorative ceremony to honor Cuba veterans."

The President of Veterans for Peace is David Cline. He is a decorated,
disabled veteran of the Vietnam War. In 1970 he joined Vietnam Veterans
Against the War (VVAW), one of whose leaders was John Kerry. In 2004 Cline
was also the still-existing VVAW organization's National Coordinator. VFP
and VVAW, therefore, have intertwined leadership as well as ideology.

VFP is a member organization of the
Win Without War
http://www.discoverthenetwork.com/gr...asp?grpid=6935
United for Peace and Justice
http://www.discoverthenetwork.com/gr...asp?grpid=6166
and Abolition 2000 anti-war coalitions
http://www.discoverthenetwork.com/gr...asp?grpid=6765

==================================================

The U.S. has been infiltrated by Communists - be careful out there.








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On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:01:04 -0500, "fishbarrel"
wrote:


I strongly urge you to listen to this very informative program in its
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Useful idiot
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
In political jargon, the term "useful idiot" was used during the Cold
War by certain anticommunists to describe communists in western
countries (particularly in the United States). The implication of the
insult was that the communist in question was naïve, and that he or
she was being cynically used by the Soviet Union, thus unwittingly
betraying his or her home country.

It is also believed to have been coined by Vladimir Lenin to describe
western non-Communist reporters and travellers who would endorse the
Soviet Union and its policies in the West. Lenin never wrote it in any
published document, but it was a commonly used phrase within Communist
circles long before anti-Communists used it. Whether or not Lenin
actually coined the phrase cannot be proven, but it certainly stems
from Communists.

In the United States, the term has today been appropriated as a
pejorative used by political conservatives against political liberals.
The tone of usage implies that the target of this sobriquet is
ignorant of the facts to the extent that they end up unwittingly
advancing an adverse cause that they might not otherwise support.

The term gained increased use after the publication of conservative
columnist Mona Charen's 2004 book Useful Idiots: How Liberals Got It
Wrong in the Cold War and Still Blame America First.

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot"

On 30 Jun 2005 15:05:17 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote:


Hmmm... You really *are* clueless. Your ahem formal education apparently
didn't "take" and/or was lacking. Aparently, you felt compelled by our
pejorative use of the term (at your expense) to go look it up. In any
event, tell us -- when you read the definition, did you have the distinct
feeling it was like the printed version of gazing into a mirror at your own
reflection?

-=jd=-
Not at all. I know what I am. I know who the traitors are. I know
that very little is what it seems.

You say ''our''? Are you part of a cabal?

George W. Bush is a demon from Hell.

David wrote:

On 30 Jun 2005 15:05:17 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote:

Hmmm... You really *are* clueless. Your ahem formal education apparently
didn't "take" and/or was lacking. Aparently, you felt compelled by our
pejorative use of the term (at your expense) to go look it up. In any
event, tell us -- when you read the definition, did you have the distinct
feeling it was like the printed version of gazing into a mirror at your own
reflection?

-=jd=-
Not at all. I know what I am. I know who the traitors are. I know
that very little is what it seems.

You say ''our''? Are you part of a cabal?

George W. Bush is a demon from Hell.

David Rickets is a 'tard boy Hell bent upon displaying his idiocy.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Maybe I could learn some tips.I want to spy on my girlfriends.
cuhulin

-=jd=- wrote:

On Fri 01 Jul 2005 10:02:22a, David wrote in message
:

On 30 Jun 2005 15:05:17 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote:


Hmmm... You really *are* clueless. Your ahem formal education
apparently didn't "take" and/or was lacking. Aparently, you felt
compelled by our pejorative use of the term (at your expense) to go look
it up. In any event, tell us -- when you read the definition, did you
have the distinct feeling it was like the printed version of gazing into
a mirror at your own reflection?

-=jd=-
Not at all. I know what I am. I know who the traitors are. I know
that very little is what it seems.

You say ''our''? Are you part of a cabal?


If you define normal, rational people who are not at all prone to over-
exaggeration as "cabal", then yes I am. Otherwise, you are left to your own
fantasy world to make sense of your interactions with "normal" people.

He interacts with normal people? I mean, outside of rrs? Most liberals
stick with their own kind. Then again, so do most fundamentalist
Christians. It's all part of the sad trend of people creating little
micro realities for themselves where only preapproved opinions are
allowed.



George W. Bush is a demon from Hell.


You never fail to bolster the point I was trying to make. Good-gravy you
make this easy!! In case that went sailing over your head, most sane folks
do not consider Bush a "demon" from anywhere. You could be the poster-child
for the "Useful Idiots" co-op.

Bush is stupid, but I think "demon from hell" is a bit much. OTOH, I
would certainly describe some of the people surrounding him that way.
David is not a useful idiot, he's a useless idiot. To be a useful idiot,
one must generally be being used by people who are in power somewhere.
Since liberals have no power, he really can't be useful.


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