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[email protected] September 30th 05 08:03 PM

Slightly OT again; Wind Power
 


http://www.capewind.org/news475.htm


BOSTON, MA, September 30, 2005 - There is as much wind power
potential (900,000 megawatts) off our coasts as the current capacity of
all power plants in the United States combined,

according to a new report entitled, "A Framework for Offshore Wind
Energy Development in the United States" (Framework), sponsored by
the U.S. Department of Energy, Massachusetts Technology Collaborative,
and General Electric.

The Framework finds the greatest wind power potential offshore the
highly-populated urban coastal areas of the northeast and it recognizes
the roles of Cape Wind and the Long Island offshore wind project in
creating the momentum to develop offshore wind power in the United
States. The three passages below are examples of these points being
made in the Framework:

"...the United States is getting started with two serious project
proposals located off the coasts of Massachusetts and New York.
Sustaining and building on this momentum will require leadership and
the collective action of all interested parties..."

"Most of the total potential offshore wind resources exist relatively
close to major urban load centers, where high energy costs prevail and
where opportunities for wind development on land are limited. This is
especially true in the densely populated Northeast, where nearly
one-fifth of that national populations lives on less than 2% of the
total land area..."

"Offshore wind energy is also an attractive option for the Northeast
because slightly more than half the country's offshore wind potential
is located off the New England and Mid-Atlantic coasts, where water
depths generally deepen gradually with distance from shore. This
attribute allows for the initial development of offshore wind in
relatively shallow waters followed by a transition to deeper waters
further for shore as the technology is advanced."

Jim Gordon, the President of Cape Wind, was pleased to see the
Framework's recognition of the role that offshore wind can play in
addressing key national priorities, "The Framework recognizes that
offshore wind can meet a significant share of the energy requirements
of the Northeast while helping to diversify our energy sources, protect
public health and the environment, create jobs, help stabilize energy
prices and make us more energy independent." Gordon continued,
"Cape Wind will help to catalyze America's use of offshore wind to
become a major supply of energy for the Northeast."


FDR October 1st 05 01:05 AM

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http://www.capewind.org/news475.htm


BOSTON, MA, September 30, 2005 - There is as much wind power
potential (900,000 megawatts) off our coasts as the current capacity of
all power plants in the United States combined,

according to a new report entitled, "A Framework for Offshore Wind
Energy Development in the United States" (Framework), sponsored by
the U.S. Department of Energy, Massachusetts Technology Collaborative,
and General Electric.

The Framework finds the greatest wind power potential offshore the
highly-populated urban coastal areas of the northeast and it recognizes
the roles of Cape Wind and the Long Island offshore wind project in
creating the momentum to develop offshore wind power in the United
States. The three passages below are examples of these points being
made in the Framework:

"...the United States is getting started with two serious project
proposals located off the coasts of Massachusetts and New York.
Sustaining and building on this momentum will require leadership and
the collective action of all interested parties..."

"Most of the total potential offshore wind resources exist relatively
close to major urban load centers, where high energy costs prevail and
where opportunities for wind development on land are limited. This is
especially true in the densely populated Northeast, where nearly
one-fifth of that national populations lives on less than 2% of the
total land area..."

"Offshore wind energy is also an attractive option for the Northeast
because slightly more than half the country's offshore wind potential
is located off the New England and Mid-Atlantic coasts, where water
depths generally deepen gradually with distance from shore. This
attribute allows for the initial development of offshore wind in
relatively shallow waters followed by a transition to deeper waters
further for shore as the technology is advanced."

Jim Gordon, the President of Cape Wind, was pleased to see the
Framework's recognition of the role that offshore wind can play in
addressing key national priorities, "The Framework recognizes that
offshore wind can meet a significant share of the energy requirements
of the Northeast while helping to diversify our energy sources, protect
public health and the environment, create jobs, help stabilize energy
prices and make us more energy independent." Gordon continued,
"Cape Wind will help to catalyze America's use of offshore wind to
become a major supply of energy for the Northeast."


We buy our electricity through a windfarm in southern NJ.



[email protected] October 1st 05 01:37 AM

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Who produces large windmills 100kw into the megawatts?

regards,
Bob


[email protected] October 1st 05 01:46 AM

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WBCQ I think has recently? installed a 100kw wind turbine. Ther is
discussion on 7415 photovoltaics/wind yada...


[email protected] October 1st 05 02:21 AM

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New Orleans Military Boat Builder Moves Business to Gulfport.Northrop
Recovering From Storm. www.MagnoliaReport.com

Windpower? On September 9 this month when I went to the Celticfest
Mississippi Festival www.celticfestms.org I took a couple of
pictures of a windmill generator I saw on the grounds of the Mississippi
Agricultural and Forestry Museums.That is where Celticfest Mississippi
has their annual Festivals.The windmill generator was mounted on a
talllllll steel tower and the three bladed propellar was slowly spinning
around and around.I took two pictures (among a lot of other pictures I
took of the Festival and the Museums) of the windmill generator and I
sent them along with some more pictures and a Sunday Clarion Ledger
newspaper and a Celticfest Mississippi T Shirt and a video of the
Splenders Of Versailles exhibit that was in down town Jackson a few
years ago.I snail mailed all of that stuff to that married Irish woman
wayyyyyy over yonder across the big pond.At ground level,there wasen't
the slightest breeze at all (there never is unless a storm is rolling
through around here) at ground lever at Celticfest Mississippi,but
wayyyy up there on top of that steel tower,that windmill generator was
turning around and around,about one revolution every three seconds.As
far as I know,that might be the only serious windmill generator here in
Mississippi.
www.devilfinder.com Mississippi Agricultural and Forestry Museums
cuhulin


[email protected] October 1st 05 02:27 AM

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Get a motorcycle wheel and a auto/truck alternator at a junk yard and
attach some kind of home made vanes to the wheel to catch the wind and
mount that on a tower and there is your windmill generator.I have an old
Mother Earth magazine here that has some plans in the magazine all about
how to do that.Cheap and simple.
cuhulin


m II October 1st 05 05:39 AM

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wrote:

Get a motorcycle wheel and a auto/truck alternator at a junk yard and
attach some kind of home made vanes to the wheel to catch the wind and
mount that on a tower and there is your windmill generator.I have an old
Mother Earth magazine here that has some plans in the magazine all about
how to do that.Cheap and simple.
cuhulin



An auto alternator isn't very suitable. It has to turn around ten to
fifteen thousand rpm to make power..check out the pulley ratios in your
car. The field uses too much of the power, too. Permanent magnets are
much better for field supply.


One of the following sites has a homemade Volvo disk brake alternator
that is a good idea. No brushes or chains or belts or gears to add to
the maintenance.

http://otherpower.com/otherpower_wind.html

http://www.otherpower.com/otherpower_links.html



mike

[email protected] October 1st 05 06:04 AM

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Volvo no good.In World War Two,we lost over 450 American Army Air Force
guys Bombing a nazi ball bearing factory in Schweinfurt,Germany and at
another smaller ball bearing factory in Germany.Volvo took up the slack
supplying the nazis with ball bearings.Volvo no good.
www.devilfinder.com Minto Wheel
cuhulin


[email protected] October 1st 05 06:16 AM

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I have a Popular Science magazine here (or maybe it's in one of my
Popular Mechanics magazines) from earlier this year with an article
about a wind pipe someone is expeimenting with.The pipe tapers smaller
toward the middle section of the pipe (venturi effect) than at the ends
of the pipe.The wind going through either end of the pipe speeds up and
spins a generator in the middle section of the pipe,according to the
article in the magazine.It is nothing but a big pipe with a generator in
the middle of the pipe.Stick a big kite way up in the air/wind,let the
tether line tug on some gears and spin a generator.
cuhulin


Eric F. Richards October 1st 05 05:49 PM

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wrote:

Who produces large windmills 100kw into the megawatts?

regards,
Bob


Vestas, out of the Netherlands.
http://www.vestas.com

--
Eric F. Richards

"Nature abhors a vacuum tube." -- Myron Glass,
often attributed to J. R. Pierce, Bell Labs, c. 1940

RHF October 1st 05 06:02 PM

Slightly OT again; Wind Power
 
EFR,

[email protected] October 1st 05 07:21 PM

Slightly OT again; Wind Power
 
On 1 Oct 2005 10:02:38 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

EFR,
.
IIRC - These are the same people that have the Wind Energy Farm
along the Hills near the Altamont Pass in California. ~ RHF
http://www.highton.com/pages/portfpa...passportf.html
http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~abrown/P...1_h_thumb.html
.
.
. .

You would be referring to the wonderful implementation of
environmentally friendly power generation that the current crop of
environmentalists want closed down because birds hit the bladed and
die - correct? You just can't make some activists happy anymore :)

[email protected] October 1st 05 08:49 PM

Slightly OT again; Wind Power
 
I have an idea I think I know of a Very Good Idea (actually,two Very
Good Ideas) of how to get Free Energy.I won't explain about my two Very
Good Ideas for Free Energy to anybody though,although I can't see why my
two Very Good Ideas for Free Energy wouldn't work.I will take my two
Very Good Ideas for Free Energy to my grave with me.I am Highly ****ed
Off!!! with fed govt and I am keeping my Sekerts to meself.They are in
my Super Smart Intelligent Mind,I have never sketched them out on paper
before.Even my Super Smart Intelligent Doggy www.cattledog.com
doesn't know.
cuhulin



m II October 2nd 05 04:16 AM

Slightly OT again; Wind Power
 
wrote:

Volvo no good.In World War Two,we lost over 450 American Army Air Force
guys Bombing a nazi ball bearing factory in Schweinfurt,Germany and at
another smaller ball bearing factory in Germany.Volvo took up the slack
supplying the nazis with ball bearings.Volvo no good.
www.devilfinder.com Minto Wheel
cuhulin


Prometheus no good. He gave Allies fire to bomb Dresden and Frankfurt
civilians with. Prometheus no good.


Mind you, you above average in literacy Southerner, it could have been
worse:

===========================================
The RAF, writes Bernstein, "was putting together a bombing plan for the
use of anthrax against six German cities: Berlin, Hamburg, Stuttgart,
Frankfurt, Aachen, and Wilhelmshafen. The expectation was that 40,000 of
the 500-pound projectiles, containing about 4.25 million four-pound
bombs, could kill at least half the population 'by inhalation,' and many
more would die later through skin absorption."[42]

http://msqr.us/articles/firebomb.xml?&page=6
============================================



mike



[email protected] October 2nd 05 05:05 AM

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Dresden?,,, you say Dresden??? Strudel?,,, Strudel??????
www.devilfinder.com Dresden Exhibit Jackson Mississippi

Look up the Exibits that were in Jackson about Spain and Russia
too,while you are at it.Of course we have kulcher down South.And,look up
Ballet Magnificat in whatever sarch eyngyne of your choice.
cuhulin


[email protected] October 2nd 05 05:10 AM

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About a week or so ago,(maybe I read it at www.infowars.com I
don't remember exactly right now,but do a search for it if you want to)
I read about U.S.fed govt is interested in buying huge quanties of
Military grade/quality Anthrax.
cuhulin


Eric F. Richards October 2nd 05 06:32 AM

Slightly OT again; Wind Power
 
wrote:

On 1 Oct 2005 10:02:38 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

EFR,
.
IIRC - These are the same people that have the Wind Energy Farm
along the Hills near the Altamont Pass in California. ~ RHF
http://www.highton.com/pages/portfpa...passportf.html
http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~abrown/P...1_h_thumb.html
.
.
. .

You would be referring to the wonderful implementation of
environmentally friendly power generation that the current crop of
environmentalists want closed down because birds hit the bladed and
die - correct? You just can't make some activists happy anymore :)


Congratulation -- you drank the Kool Aid. No one -- no
environmentalist -- believes that myth. There was some worry about
it, enough to prompt a study, that showed that birds have no problem
with the blades and steering clear of them. Birdstrikes occur, but
are relatively rare, down in the statistical noise.

But believe everything that Rush tells you, because he's soooo
intelligent and open minded.

--
Eric F. Richards

"I have in mind a bloodbath that is thoroughly bipartisan. Let the
Clintons be the first to go. American politics will not be healthy until
they are purged from the system. Issue exit visas to Trent Lott and Tom
DeLay, to Dick Armey, to the ancient and awful Strom Thurmond and the
odious Jesse Helms. Let the ostraca fall upon the bombastic charlatan
Jesse Jackson, upon Henry Hyde and Maxine Waters, upon Barbara Boxer
and Orrin Hatch." - Lance Morrow,
http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...,88598,00.html

[email protected] October 2nd 05 03:38 PM

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On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 23:32:06 -0600, Eric F. Richards
wrote:

wrote:

On 1 Oct 2005 10:02:38 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

EFR,
.
IIRC - These are the same people that have the Wind Energy Farm
along the Hills near the Altamont Pass in California. ~ RHF
http://www.highton.com/pages/portfpa...passportf.html
http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~abrown/P...1_h_thumb.html
.
.
. .

You would be referring to the wonderful implementation of
environmentally friendly power generation that the current crop of
environmentalists want closed down because birds hit the bladed and
die - correct? You just can't make some activists happy anymore :)


Congratulation -- you drank the Kool Aid. No one -- no
environmentalist -- believes that myth. There was some worry about
it, enough to prompt a study, that showed that birds have no problem
with the blades and steering clear of them. Birdstrikes occur, but
are relatively rare, down in the statistical noise.

But believe everything that Rush tells you, because he's soooo
intelligent and open minded.

Didn't hear it from Rush - read it in The Los Angeles Times - a noted
'liberal' news paper. From what I've read in other than the LA Times,
the information said same as yo do - that most of the birds figure it
out. However, that particular windfarm is still now under restricted
operation due to concern for migratory birds so in this case the
environmentalists did win.


David October 2nd 05 03:52 PM

Slightly OT again; Wind Power
 
On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 07:38:32 -0700, wrote:

Didn't hear it from Rush - read it in The Los Angeles Times - a noted
'liberal' news paper. From what I've read in other than the LA Times,
the information said same as yo do - that most of the birds figure it
out. However, that particular windfarm is still now under restricted
operation due to concern for migratory birds so in this case the
environmentalists did win.

Migratory birds are doomed anyway. Their annual flughts are supposed
to coincide with larval stages of certain insects and climate change
has screwed that timing up to the point that the birds don't have any
food.


m II October 2nd 05 05:46 PM

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David wrote:
On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 07:38:32 -0700, wrote:

Didn't hear it from Rush - read it in The Los Angeles Times - a noted
'liberal' news paper. From what I've read in other than the LA Times,
the information said same as yo do - that most of the birds figure it
out. However, that particular windfarm is still now under restricted
operation due to concern for migratory birds so in this case the
environmentalists did win.

Migratory birds are doomed anyway. Their annual flughts are supposed
to coincide with larval stages of certain insects and climate change
has screwed that timing up to the point that the birds don't have any
food.



Sea life is in danger too. Only someone with the IQ of a dxAce can deny
that degradation is dangerously severe.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8796487


Thousands of other sites say the same thing.







mike










m II October 2nd 05 05:50 PM

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David wrote:

Migratory birds are doomed anyway. Their annual flughts are supposed
to coincide with larval stages of certain insects and climate change
has screwed that timing up to the point that the birds don't have any
food.


I didn't hear anything on the news about this. More good news for the
environment.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9365607/



mike






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