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Moon Bounce
The last few evening the moon was almost full and the evening sky was
fairly clear here in New York. I then transmitted on my CB but no DX only locals. I read something somewhere that mention about Moon Bouncing. Meaning that a signal can travel far. But I am not sure if that is true. 73 SR! |
Moon Bounce
Even very weak signals travel up out of Earth's Atmosphere and they keep
on traveling into outer Space forever.That's how ET phoned home. cuhulin |
Moon Bounce
On 2005-10-20 23:21:00 -0400, SR said:
The last few evening the moon was almost full and the evening sky was fairly clear here in New York. I then transmitted on my CB but no DX only locals. I read something somewhere that mention about Moon Bouncing. Meaning that a signal can travel far. But I am not sure if that is true. 73 SR! Oh it's true, hams do it all the time. You have to have the right equiptment/antennas,etc. -- Chris: "Dad, what's a blowhole for?" Peter: "I'll tell you what it's NOT for and then you'll know why I can never go back to Sea World." |
Moon Bounce
Before satellites became available for eavesdropping the moon was used to
listen to the USSR. "SR" wrote in message ... The last few evening the moon was almost full and the evening sky was fairly clear here in New York. I then transmitted on my CB but no DX only locals. I read something somewhere that mention about Moon Bouncing. Meaning that a signal can travel far. But I am not sure if that is true. 73 SR! |
Moon Bounce
Amateurs have used moon bounce for many years - requires very exotic
equipment Several sites at URL: http://ac6v.com/astronomy.htm -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "SeeingEyeDog" wrote in message ... Before satellites became available for eavesdropping the moon was used to listen to the USSR. "SR" wrote in message ... The last few evening the moon was almost full and the evening sky was fairly clear here in New York. I then transmitted on my CB but no DX only locals. I read something somewhere that mention about Moon Bouncing. Meaning that a signal can travel far. But I am not sure if that is true. 73 SR! |
Moon Bounce
U.S.A.bounces signals off the Moon all the time to keep track of how far
the Moon is from Earth at any given time.I have heard/read before about Hams bouncing signals off the Moon. cuhulin |
Moon Bounce
Yep,and that is what that 1947 "space alien crash" was about near
Roswell,New Mexico.It was a big balloon equipped with spy cameras to take pictures of Russia's development of their atom bombs,but the balloon crashed near Roswell.Art Bell and George Noory,space aliens have Never visited Earth before and they never will either.Our Sun only has about four and a half billions years of "life" left now,if them so-called space aliens ever plan to visit Earth,they better hurry up and get a move on. cuhulin |
Moon Bounce
"SeeingEyeDog" ) writes: Before satellites became available for eavesdropping the moon was used to listen to the USSR. Huh? The only way you can hear signals bounced off the moon is if they are aimed there in the first place. That means a deliberate use of the moon as a passive repeater. It does get around the issue of line of sight at VHF, but it's not something one can use for "eavesdropping". Moonbounce was first tried by the US Signal Corp right after WWII, I think it was 1946. But it needs big antennas and/or high power, and thus it's really not practicaly until you get into the VHF range of frequencies. I seem to recall the first moonbounce was around 112MHz. It didn't take very many years before hams did it, using much less power and I think smaller antennas. I think it was 1953. Before there were communication satellites, there were passive satellites launched where signals were simply bounced off their surface, just like moonbounce. There was a time or two in the sixties, after Sam Harris (who had been one of the better known hams to do moonbounce, but then at the time it was a relatively small club) moved to Puerto Rico to work at the radio telescope, that Arecibo was used for amateur moonbounce. With an antenna that size, there was enough gain that far weaker signals were receivable, so people with average antennas were able to participate in the test(s). Sam is credited with the line "if your antenna stays up all winter, it's too small). With time, it got easier. Ray Naughton (I spelled that wrong) in Australia had a lot of space, so he put up stacked rhombic antennas f for moonbounce, and succeeded even though there was a power limit for Australian hams at the time of 150Watts or so. His problem was that the rhombics were fixed, so there was a limited number of days each month that they were aimed at the moon. With time, the number of hams capable of moonbounce went up. It became easier to generate power at the suitable frequencies, and more was learned about antennas and weak signal work. Solid state helped too, because they had lower noise figure than most tubes. And once there were enough with really good stations, it made it easier for others, because their capability meant that those with smaller antennas could still do moonbounce. Michael "SR" wrote in message ... The last few evening the moon was almost full and the evening sky was fairly clear here in New York. I then transmitted on my CB but no DX only locals. I read something somewhere that mention about Moon Bouncing. Meaning that a signal can travel far. But I am not sure if that is true. 73 SR! |
Moon Bounce
In article , SR wrote:
The last few evening the moon was almost full and the evening sky was fairly clear here in New York. I then transmitted on my CB but no DX only locals. I read something somewhere that mention about Moon Bouncing. Meaning that a signal can travel far. But I am not sure if that is true. It's a VHF and microwave thing. You actually illuminate the Moon with enough power that another station back on Earth can pick up the reflection. But that requires an antenna that can focus most of your power on the Moon, a target only 1/2 degree across. Hams, with 1 kilowatt, can get morse code and slow digital signals (on the higher bands). Before satellites the Defense Department was able to send several teletype channels at at time, maritime mobile. That was with a big dish and probably 10's of kilowatts. (The best description of using that equipment, that I've seen, was in a description of the incident where the USS Liberty, the radio intelligence ship, was attacked by the Israelis. In the Atlantic Monthly about 10-15 years ago, as I remember). Mark Zenier Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com) |
Moon Bounce
Cuhulin, you'd better listen to Art Bell. There are aliens all around
you, and I don't mean the illegal kind. They're watching you. |
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