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FS: Uniden BC200XLT 800MHZ Scanner
Near Mint Uniden BC200 XLT 800MHZ 200 channel scanner. 29.0 thru 956mhz
This unit is clean as a pin and will arrive to your home insured with: Scanner, Leather Carry Case, AC/DC Adapter and a PDF printed owners manual. $175 to the door. Donnie (N4JZH) ''Behold how good and well brethren dwell together in unity'' |
There is nothing illegal about the BC200XLT. They were manufactured
before April 1994. The ruling doesn't apply to private sales. On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 14:59:19 +0100 (CET), Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote: In article Donnie look me up @ qrz.com wrote: Are you saying then that this is an illegal radio since it doesn't have the cell freqs blocked but is continuous coverage? Since it's illegal to monitor knowingly the cell channels, the only thing left might be police/fire etc and most are trunked these days. Without trunking, you won't hear much. I don't see on any searches that this is a trunking capable monitor. "Cell Blocked means that the USA cellular phone frequencies are "blocked" from being entered into the Radio Scanner. As of April, 1994, ALL scanners sold in the USA must be Cellular Deleted (Blocked) by the manufacturer, and all scanners Uniden offers are cell blocked." |
Bring it on!
Any old TV with a older style UHF tuner is fully capable of receiving these frequencies. Better bust all those Goodwill stores! With your understanding, there is no grand fathering of old equipment? Wow, with the sales receipts we could bust thousands of people who purchased this equipment legally at the time. Lets not forget most new (junk) receivers can pick these frequencies up on the other side of its IF as an image. So much for anyone with a extended RX handheld.... BUSTED! What a stupid law. Let me draw a parallel for you. I smoke, if you breath in my emissions, I'll sue. I am still waiting for a real test case to challenge this stupidity. Amateur lawyers......BAHhahhahha Garsh, you think the couple who monitored and taped Newt recieved any jail time? lcs Mixmaster Remailer wrote: In article Dick wrote: Sorry, not buying that one. "Doesn't apply to private sales?" LOLOLOLOL This sure brings the amateur lawyers out of the woodwork. Of course, it brings out the morons too. DICK is the correct name for you! Private sales!!!!!!!!!! Oh brother. Do you really believe this one yourself or are you grinning as you type. Doesn't apply to private sales. That's a good one. It's one Rush LImbaugh should have used. |
Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote: In article Donnie look me up @ qrz.com wrote: I don't see on any searches that this is a trunking capable monitor. You have too much free time on your hands. Do you have a hobby? Do you have a name? |
"lcs Mixmaster Remailer" drooled in message : i b radio cop i b troublemaker i hate everything etc |
lcs Mixmaster Remailer wrote: In article N1SUb.16251$EW.8680@okepread02 Harry wrote: You tell me I have too much free time but you have even more time to tell I wasn't speaking to you clown. I was talking to the ebay boy that does not identify himself. Now step off! |
lcs Mixmoron Remailer wrote: Maybe my new hobby should be rubbing my nipples and exposing my small man memeber to the world .....We'll remember that call when I want to excite myself. Go collect shell over there at the beach in Titusville and let the adults play with each other. Oh, I'm sorry but you seem to have exposed yourself didn't you? MORON! You and are the same nobody. Now who is the lid, you troll. PLONK |
lcs Mixmaster Remailer wrote: In article 7rTUb.16258$EW.551@okepread02 Harry wrote: Well you're talkin' now and I bet you don't tell people to "step off" unless you're behind your keyboard. I'm not too far from Titville and a quick drive across 4 and I'm at your door. Aren't you right right off 50 near Gray Ave? Step off you say? ****y little Technician class. Come on over Mr Big Shot. I'll be hiding here behind my keyboard. FYI: you might want to use your spell checker. MORON! |
Sounds like a REPUBLICAN ASSHOLE !
On 6 Feb 2004 21:40:13 -0000, lcs Mixmaster Remailer wrote: In article 7rTUb.16258$EW.551@okepread02 Harry wrote: Well you're talkin' now and I bet you don't tell people to "step off" unless you're behind your keyboard. I'm not too far from Titville and a quick drive across 4 and I'm at your door. Aren't you right right off 50 near Gray Ave? Step off you say? ****y little Technician class. |
On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 20:36:52 -0500, Donnie look me up @ qrz.com wrote:
Near Mint Uniden BC200 XLT 800MHZ 200 channel scanner. 29.0 thru 956mhz This unit is clean as a pin and will arrive to your home insured with: Scanner, Leather Carry Case, AC/DC Adapter and a PDF printed owners manual. $175 to the door. Donnie (N4JZH) ''Behold how good and well brethren dwell together in unity'' No mention of cellular on this unit, Just what the manual says. 29.0 to 956mhz. $175 to the door. Whats so hard to understand? I did not mention cellular nowhere in my thread. so while you look in the mirror with that '' Just pumped the neighbors cat'' look on your face, ask yourself, What is illegal about the sale of a Uniden BC200XLT. Hit the road LID... Donnie (N4JZH) ''Behold how good and well brethren dwell together in unity'' |
On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 01:50:24 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article Donnie look me up @ qrz.com wrote: It doesn't have to say cell. If you would know that the 800 mhz band is cell, you can just assume it's in there if not blocked adn you didn't say anything about blocked. Don't be such a dick when a guy is trying to explain something to you. YOu end up with some attitude adn some reference to a cat which makes no sense and makes you sound like the lid. Some post also ask if this was a trunking scanner? If it's not trunked, you're going to sell a basically worthless piece of gear because, excluding cell in the 800 meg band, the only other thing there of interest is police and they are practically all, trunked. The guy is trying to say it's against the law to sell equipment that is not blocked for illegal freqs like the 800 meg band, that's all. He then says you are selling a radio for a premium price that isn't going to copy much of what is going on with the 800 meg band. Pure and simple since you're talking about simple. YOu mention lid but if you are not aware of cell blocked 800 mhz requirments and trunked capabilities that your radio doesn't have, you might be the lid. If you have bad day, keep it to yourself and don't be a dick to the whole world. I guess then I should say the surface mount device is in place. Does this make the scanner legal? Shall I sell my Alinco DR-570T? I am certainly aware of the scanners capabilities but if it is stock why should it matter? Donnie (N4JZH) ''Behold how good and well brethren dwell together in unity'' |
I challenge anyone here to show me in the FCC regulations that it
illegal to sell a scanning receiver that was manufactured prior to April 1994. The FCC stated in Section 15, CFR 47, "...Further, scanning receivers that comply with the current rules will be permitted to be manufactured or imported into the United States for up to one hundred and eighty days after publication of this Report and Order in the Federal Register. However, equipment manufactured or imported into the United States after one hundred and eighty days from the date of publication of this Report and Order in the Federal Register must comply with the new rules." Further........ Section 15.37 Transition provisions for compliance with the rules. (f) The manufacture or importation of scanning receivers, and frequency converters designed or marketed for use with scanning receivers, that do not comply with the provisions of § 15.121(a)(1) shall cease on or before April 26, 1994. Effective April 26, 1993, the Commission will not grant equipment authorization for receivers that do not comply with the provisions of § 15.121(a)(1). This paragraph does not prohibit the sale or use of authorized receivers manufactured in the United States, or imported into the United States, prior to April 26, 1994. This makes it pretty clear that selling a BC200XLT does not in any way violate Section 15 of CFR 47. USING the scanner to listen to cellular frequencies is another matter, and is prohibited. Ref: FCC 99-58, dated March 29, 1999 Dick - W6CCD On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 01:50:24 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio wrote: In article Donnie look me up @ qrz.com wrote: It doesn't have to say cell. If you would know that the 800 mhz band is cell, you can just assume it's in there if not blocked adn you didn't say anything about blocked. Don't be such a dick when a guy is trying to explain something to you. YOu end up with some attitude adn some reference to a cat which makes no sense and makes you sound like the lid. Some post also ask if this was a trunking scanner? If it's not trunked, you're going to sell a basically worthless piece of gear because, excluding cell in the 800 meg band, the only other thing there of interest is police and they are practically all, trunked. The guy is trying to say it's against the law to sell equipment that is not blocked for illegal freqs like the 800 meg band, that's all. He then says you are selling a radio for a premium price that isn't going to copy much of what is going on with the 800 meg band. Pure and simple since you're talking about simple. YOu mention lid but if you are not aware of cell blocked 800 mhz requirments and trunked capabilities that your radio doesn't have, you might be the lid. If you have bad day, keep it to yourself and don't be a dick to the whole world. |
Yawn
lcs Mixmaster Remailer wrote: In article rYTUb.16259$EW.6734@okepread02 Harry wrote: What a moron you are harry. You figured that all out by yourself? bbbbbbbbbbwahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaa No, you're the one in the ****ter now. Flush your ass so you can go play vhf radio you faggot tech. FLUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHH (that's the same of plonk momma's boy. |
lcs Mixmaster Remailer wrote: Well you're talkin' now and I bet you don't tell people to "step off" unless you're behind your keyboard. I'm not too far from Titville and a quick drive across 4 and I'm at your door. Aren't you right right off 50 near Gray Ave? Step off you say? ****y little Technician class. Well big mouth, I have been here all night and You did not show up. You know who I am and where I live but you on the other hand have to hide. You are in the kill file coward. |
BRAVO!
Could not have said it better myself!!!!!!!!!!! In fact I did say it from time to time to many of the know-it-alls!! --------------------------------- Dick wrote: There is nothing illegal about the BC200XLT. They were manufactured before April 1994. The ruling doesn't apply to private sales. On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 14:59:19 +0100 (CET), Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote: In article Donnie look me up @ qrz.com wrote: Are you saying then that this is an illegal radio since it doesn't have the cell freqs blocked but is continuous coverage? Since it's illegal to monitor knowingly the cell channels, the only thing left might be police/fire etc and most are trunked these days. Without trunking, you won't hear much. I don't see on any searches that this is a trunking capable monitor. "Cell Blocked means that the USA cellular phone frequencies are "blocked" from being entered into the Radio Scanner. As of April, 1994, ALL scanners sold in the USA must be Cellular Deleted (Blocked) by the manufacturer, and all scanners Uniden offers are cell blocked." |
With all the nonsense about this now I see why many people
go to Ebay. The same people that cry about items like this also cry that people don't sell much here anymore. The guy who is selling the BC-200XLT should put it on Ebay. He will get a better price and not have to put up with all the know-it-alls and their nasty comments!! Seems like they cut off their nose to spite their face. ============================================== Dick wrote: I challenge anyone here to show me in the FCC regulations that it illegal to sell a scanning receiver that was manufactured prior to April 1994. |
HERE HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Mark" wrote in message ... With all the nonsense about this now I see why many people go to Ebay. The same people that cry about items like this also cry that people don't sell much here anymore. The guy who is selling the BC-200XLT should put it on Ebay. He will get a better price and not have to put up with all the know-it-alls and their nasty comments!! Seems like they cut off their nose to spite their face. ============================================== Dick wrote: I challenge anyone here to show me in the FCC regulations that it illegal to sell a scanning receiver that was manufactured prior to April 1994. |
On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 20:36:52 -0500, Donnie look me up @ qrz.com wrote:
Near Mint Uniden BC200 XLT 800MHZ 200 channel scanner. 29.0 thru 956mhz This unit is clean as a pin and will arrive to your home insured with: Scanner, Leather Carry Case, AC/DC Adapter and a PDF printed owners manual. $175 to the door. Donnie (N4JZH) ''Behold how good and well brethren dwell together in unity'' Thanks Mark, Harry and Dick, I have been a trader here for several years, ask anyone on this group they will tell you I have never been dishonest, deceptive or left ANYONE holding a worthless piece of equipment. I have NEVER run into any problems with the gear I advertise and sell here until I posted this scanner, It appears that we have a few peter wrinkles who troll the newsgroups policing what people sell. It is my opinion that unless you are a perspective buyer and are ready to make a purchase then yes ask those questions here on this forum or get them answered via private email. I you aren't a perspective buyer, it's best that you sit on that stump you climbed down from and suck your thumb. My add clearly stated: Near Mint Uniden BC200 XLT 800MHZ 200 channel scanner. 29.0 thru 956mhz. This unit is clean as a pin and will arrive to your home insured with: Scanner, Leather Carry Case, AC/DC Adapter and a PDF printed owners manual.$175 to the door. No mention of trunking, cellular or full spectrum. What is deceptive about that description? It's just a police scanner. In closing, thanks for every ones continued support, I will continue to be the ham whose reputation speaks for itself. Just ask around... Donnie Donnie (N4JZH) ''Behold how good and well brethren dwell together in unity'' |
The point I was trying to make was that it is OK for a private
individual to sell a used, pre-1994 scanner, but it is not OK for a manufacturer (or anyone else) to sell an unblocked post-1994 scanner. I didn't carry it through far enough as it would also be OK for a dealer to sell a pre-1994 scanner. I should have made that more clear. Dick - W6CCD On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 18:00:03 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio wrote: In article Donnie look me up @ qrz.com wrote: .. It's amusing to read that "it's ok on private sales" even though this is a widely PUBLIC forum, read by tens of thousands as would be eBay if you went there. Whether you are a "public" store with credentials for selling as a business makes little difference if you advertise publicly. There is nothing private about the internet and that argument holds water like a leaky bucket. |
On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 22:10:07 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio
wrote: In article Dick wrote: I'm still not completely sold on that theory but for now, why not. It's not a theory. The FCC very clearly stated in their clarification memorandum of March 29, 1999 that, in the rules for blocked scanners, there was no intention to prohibit the sale of pre April 1994 scanners. Note that this memorandum was issued some 5 years after the rules were published, so it is obvious that they were not putting a time limit on the sale of pre April 1994 scanners. Dick |
WHO GIVES A RAT'S ASS!!!
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 18:50:10 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio wrote: In article Dick wrote: I never had a problem with the '94 law. I would like to see your source on "it is OK for a private individual to sell a used, pre-1994 scanner" I would like to see it written that a private individual, while in a public forum, can sell something that another company can't. I'm also not sure the scanner he had was pre-1994 |
I posted my source in an earlier post in this thread. It's not just
private individuals, but anyone can sell a pre-1994 scanner. My BC100XLT was purchased in 1989, and the BC200XLT came out about the same time as the 100. The fact that the unmodified BC200XLT is capable of receiving cel frequencies should lead you to the conclusion that they were built prior to 1994. Unless you think Uniden was breaking the law back then -- kind of a stretch. The FCC document I quoted is from the file fcc99058.wp. You have to change the wp to wpd to open it in Word. I don't have time right now to find it again on the FCC site. However, here is the important part: "Section 15.37 Transition provisions for compliance with the rules. ***** (f) The manufacture or importation of scanning receivers, and frequency converters designed or marketed for use with scanning receivers, that do not comply with the provisions of § 15.121(a)(1) shall cease on or before April 26, 1994. Effective April 26, 1993, the Commission will not grant equipment authorization for receivers that do not comply with the provisions of § 15.121(a)(1). This paragraph does not prohibit the sale or use of authorized receivers manufactured in the United States, or imported into the United States, prior to April 26, 1994." Pay particular attention to the last sentence. Dick On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 18:50:10 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio wrote: In article Dick wrote: I never had a problem with the '94 law. I would like to see your source on "it is OK for a private individual to sell a used, pre-1994 scanner" I would like to see it written that a private individual, while in a public forum, can sell something that another company can't. I'm also not sure the scanner he had was pre-1994 |
I guess it depends upon where you live. Here in northern Arizona, the
police aren't trunked yet, and my BC100XLT works great for all public services, ham radio and aircraft frequencies. Dick - W6CCD On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 23:00:02 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio wrote: In article Dick wrote: Thanks Dick. I guess the bottom is would anyone really want to buy a 10 year old scanner in view of the recent changes. Cell has gone to digital so that's uncopyable (even if you wanted to) and police on the 800 mhz freq are trunked, which pre '94 radios aren't equipped to copy anyway. |
It is used, sell it, pawn it, run it over with a car, eat it.
It does not matter. Does the guy have to keep it till he dies?? Who really cares? Don't want it, don't buy it, jezzzzzzzz Nomen Nescio wrote: In article Dick wrote: I never had a problem with the '94 law. I would like to see your source on "it is OK for a private individual to sell a used, pre-1994 scanner" I would like to see it written that a private individual, while in a public forum, can sell something that another company can't. I'm also not sure the scanner he had was pre-1994 |
lid this A-hole.
MANY of us here are sick and tired of these morons complaining about everything from A-Z. Things that don't concern them and things that they think they are expert on, usually not the case. Why can't people just leave people alone. Treat people like they themselves want to be treated. It is a real shame. Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote: In article Mark wrote: You care enough to write some drivel. If you REALLY don't care, you would have passed up the thread and moved on. Take your own advice lid. |
I agree, who cares even if he is asking $1,000.00 for it. Its what he is asking and thinks its worth.
If you don't want it so be it, but there is no need of telling him or her that its not worth it. Just skip to the next message. That is what's happened to these groups, it got people not wanting to post there listing. Hell man just ask if that price is firm or can be negotiated. Treat people like they themselves want to be treated. "Mark" wrote in message ... lid this A-hole. MANY of us here are sick and tired of these morons complaining about everything from A-Z. Things that don't concern them and things that they think they are expert on, usually not the case. Why can't people just leave people alone. Treat people like they themselves want to be treated. It is a real shame. Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote: In article Mark wrote: You care enough to write some drivel. If you REALLY don't care, you would have passed up the thread and moved on. Take your own advice lid. |
perhaps, but if it's on this group it concerns everybody here and they, me
and you can respond to it. Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote: In article Mark wrote: I agree and since none of this concerns you, you are as guilty as those you accuse. "Can't see the forest for the trees." Drop it before your foot goes any further down your throat. |
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