Mr. Juan Lozano (XE2FLR),

You have committed fraud against Mrs. Thompson. She has tried every avenue
possible to resolve the illegal reversal of payment that you initiated
against her. This reversal has caused undue finical and emotional hardship
on this woman. I feel the need to send this OPEN letter to you letting
everyone know just what you did.



Mr. Lozano, we know English is a second language for you so I will break
this down to ensure there is no misunderstanding while still being totally
fair & honest with you and everyone else who may read this.



1. Mrs. Victoria Thompson who:

a. Is a registered eBay member, in good standings (eBay.com).

b. Is a Verified Paypal Member (Paypal.com).

c. Listed a Motorola Communications Service Monitor.

d. eBay Item number: 3817317151

e. View item at:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3817317151

f. Shipped item via United States Postal Service (USPS.com) with Insurance

g. Delivery confirmation number 0303 2460 0001 6669 1339





2. Mr. Juan Francisco Lozano-Rodriguez

a. Is a registered eBay member (XE2FLR)

b. Is a Verified Paypal Member. )

c. Bid and won auction for item number: 3817317151

d. Paid Victoria Thompson via Paypal

c. Paypal transaction ID # 8YY56447B7708882X

e. Upon receipt of the shipment confirmation number you reversed
payment



Mrs. Thompson listed the Motorola Communications Service Monitor on eBay.com

You won the auction with a winning bid of $1,029.09USD with an initial
shipping price of $30.00USD for a total price you paid of $1,059.09USD.

You made payment using your credit card thru Paypal.com. After a few days
you asked Mrs. Thompson when she would ship the item. She responded that it
would take a few days for her son to ship it because the unit is very heavy
and she could not lift it. Mrs. Thompson's son sent the item using USPS.com
and paid $40.00USD for shipping.



NOTE: The Shipping cost an additional $10.00USD, Mrs. Thompson was kind
enough not to bill you the additional money for it.



After the item shipped you were emailed the delivery confirmation number.
Mrs. Thompson who is new to eBay and Paypal purchased items on eBay and also
paid for services using her paypal money. Upon receipt of the delivery
confirmation number you reversed your payment to the unsuspecting Mrs.
Thompson. (Your motives are unknown)



Mr. Thompson has notified You, eBay.com, Paypal.com and SquereTrede.com

You have responded telling Mrs. Thompson that the reversal was inadvertent
and that you would correct it immediately and she should not worry.

You also contacted SquareTrade.com and told them to close the investigation.

The reason you told them: "I have resolved this with the other party." These
are your exact words to them. The only problem with this is, Mrs. Thompson
still has not been paid nor did you resolve issues with her Paypal account.



This matter must be resolved immediately!

You must pay her with a cashiers check for the full amount of $1,059.09.00



Complaints have now been filed with the following agencies;



The Internet Fraud Complaint Center and the Federal Bureau of Investigation

http://www1.ifccfbi.gov/cf1.asp



United States Postal Service (Postal Inspector)

https://www.usps.com/postalinspector...dComplaint.htm



The State of California's Attorney General's Office

http://caag.state.ca.us





Juan Francisco Lozano-Rodriguez

A.K.A. Juan Lozano
1860 Primera St.
Lemon Grove, CA 91945

Email:

Phone: 619-838-8608

Alt Phone: 011526646752841

eBay ID: XE2FLR

HAM Radio Call Sign: XE2FLR

Lieutenant_Dan wrote:

Mr. Juan Lozano (XE2FLR),

You have committed fraud against Mrs. Thompson. She has tried every avenue
possible to resolve the illegal reversal of payment that you initiated
against her. This reversal has caused undue finical and emotional hardship
on this woman. I feel the need to send this OPEN letter to you letting
everyone know just what you did.


I thought everything on Ebay was on the up and up?


- Mike -

Lieutenant_Dan wrote:

Mr. Juan Lozano (XE2FLR),

You have committed fraud against Mrs. Thompson. She has tried every avenue
possible to resolve the illegal reversal of payment that you initiated
against her. This reversal has caused undue finical and emotional hardship
on this woman. I feel the need to send this OPEN letter to you letting
everyone know just what you did.


I thought everything on Ebay was on the up and up?


- Mike -

Not everything is on the up and up; there are a few Scam Artists out there.
For legal purposes, I want to make it clear, "I" AM NOT CLAIMING this guy
mentioned (XE2FLR) as being one or guilty in any way as another has
alleged - as I'm not aware of the whole case. If you read the groups enough,
you'll hear of many who are ripped off. You can't blame E-Bay - least not
entirely, though the system could be made a bit better. But then again, it's
no worse there, than buying a used car with no warranty when it's said to
run and dies pulling it off the lot. My opinion, no one puts a gun to one's
head to make them bid/buy. So, if you're taken in bidding/buying, especially
if the seller had many bad feedbacks posted, you're partially the blame for
falling for it. As for sellers, if they're taken, then shame on them for
sending items out before being paid. There is no 100% safe way to deal with
anyone anywhere, even locally. You can arm yourself by doing any homework
that can be done about the item, individual and so on. ANY gut instinct that
says NO, should mean NO. You're getting it for a reason. READ the feed
backs of both any buyers and sellers. READ ALL Neutrals as well as Negatives
of both parties. You can often see or get a feel for who is right or wrong.
If you're still not sure, DO NOT BID/BUY OR SELL then ship without bonafied
funds being received.
Demand some sort of certified payment, U.S. Postal MOs or some Bank drafts
of sorts, Pay pal, which affords "some" sort of protection. Make the
statement that if they have negative feedback, you insist on certified funds
if you're the seller or a paid by date or plain refuse to sell to them. IF
they want it bad enough, they'll jump through the hoops.

Again, I'm not referencing in any way, the below captioned case as I know
nothing of it. But the above notes are my own and I go by them when dealing.
I've not been taken yet, buying or selling and if I ever am, then shame on
me for letting my guard down. I "try" to watch for all the red flags. I read
and reread the ads several times. I look at the pictures a couple of times.
I try to find things wrong. Some are honest in their reporting of a
condition of a unit, some are outright liars, or to be polite, their system
isn't as accurate as the one most use. I've seen radios listed as in
excellent condition, when the picture showed out right garbage. Maybe it was
"excellent" - for throwing into the trash barrel.

There ARE a lot of gullible people out there. It is a shame they are taken,
but it happens every day. Some shyster is just a cut above in smarts to pull
it off.
It's a damned shame, but it happens. It isn't like it hasn't been known for
a while. We all need to do our best to shut these ass holes down. If it
ain't you that they're screwing, it could be your mother or someone else you
care about. SCAMS are big business. Getting bigger by the day. Like shopping
for a car locally or an appliance or whatever, smart shopping can make a
difference. IF that item seems too good to be true, it probably is. There
are usually dozens of the same item on e-bay, so if you don't get it the
first time, there will be another. PATIENCE is a virtue.

VALUE/PRICE is another one. KNOW what the item "should" be going for. Know
what it sold for brand new - if possible. Check the price of one against the
other. Usually, there are big differences. Knowledge is power. It can save
you from a financial mistake. Also, IF you can NOT afford the item, then you
can't afford to lose the cash for it, if it is trash. IF it is broken, know
how to fix it, or pass it by. Chances are, you will need to fix something.

I'm not a professional by any means here, but these have all kept me in the
100% + range - buying and selling. The only negative I issued was for
someone who did a buy it now, then failed to follow through. I intend to try
to keep it that way.

Lou

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
...
Lieutenant_Dan wrote:

Mr. Juan Lozano (XE2FLR),

You have committed fraud against Mrs. Thompson. She has tried every
avenue
possible to resolve the illegal reversal of payment that you initiated
against her. This reversal has caused undue finical and emotional
hardship
on this woman. I feel the need to send this OPEN letter to you letting
everyone know just what you did.


I thought everything on Ebay was on the up and up?


- Mike -

Not everything is on the up and up; there are a few Scam Artists out there.
For legal purposes, I want to make it clear, "I" AM NOT CLAIMING this guy
mentioned (XE2FLR) as being one or guilty in any way as another has
alleged - as I'm not aware of the whole case. If you read the groups enough,
you'll hear of many who are ripped off. You can't blame E-Bay - least not
entirely, though the system could be made a bit better. But then again, it's
no worse there, than buying a used car with no warranty when it's said to
run and dies pulling it off the lot. My opinion, no one puts a gun to one's
head to make them bid/buy. So, if you're taken in bidding/buying, especially
if the seller had many bad feedbacks posted, you're partially the blame for
falling for it. As for sellers, if they're taken, then shame on them for
sending items out before being paid. There is no 100% safe way to deal with
anyone anywhere, even locally. You can arm yourself by doing any homework
that can be done about the item, individual and so on. ANY gut instinct that
says NO, should mean NO. You're getting it for a reason. READ the feed
backs of both any buyers and sellers. READ ALL Neutrals as well as Negatives
of both parties. You can often see or get a feel for who is right or wrong.
If you're still not sure, DO NOT BID/BUY OR SELL then ship without bonafied
funds being received.
Demand some sort of certified payment, U.S. Postal MOs or some Bank drafts
of sorts, Pay pal, which affords "some" sort of protection. Make the
statement that if they have negative feedback, you insist on certified funds
if you're the seller or a paid by date or plain refuse to sell to them. IF
they want it bad enough, they'll jump through the hoops.

Again, I'm not referencing in any way, the below captioned case as I know
nothing of it. But the above notes are my own and I go by them when dealing.
I've not been taken yet, buying or selling and if I ever am, then shame on
me for letting my guard down. I "try" to watch for all the red flags. I read
and reread the ads several times. I look at the pictures a couple of times.
I try to find things wrong. Some are honest in their reporting of a
condition of a unit, some are outright liars, or to be polite, their system
isn't as accurate as the one most use. I've seen radios listed as in
excellent condition, when the picture showed out right garbage. Maybe it was
"excellent" - for throwing into the trash barrel.

There ARE a lot of gullible people out there. It is a shame they are taken,
but it happens every day. Some shyster is just a cut above in smarts to pull
it off.
It's a damned shame, but it happens. It isn't like it hasn't been known for
a while. We all need to do our best to shut these ass holes down. If it
ain't you that they're screwing, it could be your mother or someone else you
care about. SCAMS are big business. Getting bigger by the day. Like shopping
for a car locally or an appliance or whatever, smart shopping can make a
difference. IF that item seems too good to be true, it probably is. There
are usually dozens of the same item on e-bay, so if you don't get it the
first time, there will be another. PATIENCE is a virtue.

VALUE/PRICE is another one. KNOW what the item "should" be going for. Know
what it sold for brand new - if possible. Check the price of one against the
other. Usually, there are big differences. Knowledge is power. It can save
you from a financial mistake. Also, IF you can NOT afford the item, then you
can't afford to lose the cash for it, if it is trash. IF it is broken, know
how to fix it, or pass it by. Chances are, you will need to fix something.

I'm not a professional by any means here, but these have all kept me in the
100% + range - buying and selling. The only negative I issued was for
someone who did a buy it now, then failed to follow through. I intend to try
to keep it that way.

Lou

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
...
Lieutenant_Dan wrote:

Mr. Juan Lozano (XE2FLR),

You have committed fraud against Mrs. Thompson. She has tried every
avenue
possible to resolve the illegal reversal of payment that you initiated
against her. This reversal has caused undue finical and emotional
hardship
on this woman. I feel the need to send this OPEN letter to you letting
everyone know just what you did.


I thought everything on Ebay was on the up and up?


- Mike -

On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 19:19:54 -0400, Mike Coslo
wrote:

Lieutenant_Dan wrote:

Mr. Juan Lozano (XE2FLR),

You have committed fraud against Mrs. Thompson. She has tried every avenue
possible to resolve the illegal reversal of payment that you initiated
against her. This reversal has caused undue finical and emotional hardship
on this woman. I feel the need to send this OPEN letter to you letting
everyone know just what you did.

I thought everything on Ebay was on the up and up?

It is.

Except when it isn't.

Nothing they can do to stop every bit of it.

They can (and should) minimize it, and they should make sure that
transactions are tracable enough so that legal action can be taken if
needed.

They need to monitor, and shut down anyone who does something
improper.

They should really work to make certain that scamsters cannot make up
a new name and get back on the system.

There are issues with differing jurisdictions.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
------------------------------------------------
at the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence

Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom

On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 19:19:54 -0400, Mike Coslo
wrote:

Lieutenant_Dan wrote:

Mr. Juan Lozano (XE2FLR),

You have committed fraud against Mrs. Thompson. She has tried every avenue
possible to resolve the illegal reversal of payment that you initiated
against her. This reversal has caused undue finical and emotional hardship
on this woman. I feel the need to send this OPEN letter to you letting
everyone know just what you did.

I thought everything on Ebay was on the up and up?

It is.

Except when it isn't.

Nothing they can do to stop every bit of it.

They can (and should) minimize it, and they should make sure that
transactions are tracable enough so that legal action can be taken if
needed.

They need to monitor, and shut down anyone who does something
improper.

They should really work to make certain that scamsters cannot make up
a new name and get back on the system.

There are issues with differing jurisdictions.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
------------------------------------------------
at the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence

Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom

Yes, if the story is true, it is unfortunate the seller got taken.

I myself would not have done business with someone with only
three feedbacks for the $ 1,000 + test gear unless the buyer
wired my money to the bank directly so there would be a paper trail.

If he says no then fine.

I've been using the ebay for four years and not one gotten burned,
always try to deal with established sellers.

marco


"Gary S." wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 19:19:54 -0400, Mike Coslo
wrote:

Lieutenant_Dan wrote:

Mr. Juan Lozano (XE2FLR),

You have committed fraud against Mrs. Thompson. She has tried every avenue
possible to resolve the illegal reversal of payment that you initiated
against her. This reversal has caused undue finical and emotional hardship
on this woman. I feel the need to send this OPEN letter to you letting
everyone know just what you did.

I thought everything on Ebay was on the up and up?

It is.

Except when it isn't.

Nothing they can do to stop every bit of it.

They can (and should) minimize it, and they should make sure that
transactions are tracable enough so that legal action can be taken if
needed.

They need to monitor, and shut down anyone who does something
improper.

They should really work to make certain that scamsters cannot make up
a new name and get back on the system.

There are issues with differing jurisdictions.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
------------------------------------------------
at the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence

Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom

Yes, if the story is true, it is unfortunate the seller got taken.

I myself would not have done business with someone with only
three feedbacks for the $ 1,000 + test gear unless the buyer
wired my money to the bank directly so there would be a paper trail.

If he says no then fine.

I've been using the ebay for four years and not one gotten burned,
always try to deal with established sellers.

marco


"Gary S." wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 19:19:54 -0400, Mike Coslo
wrote:

Lieutenant_Dan wrote:

Mr. Juan Lozano (XE2FLR),

You have committed fraud against Mrs. Thompson. She has tried every avenue
possible to resolve the illegal reversal of payment that you initiated
against her. This reversal has caused undue finical and emotional hardship
on this woman. I feel the need to send this OPEN letter to you letting
everyone know just what you did.

I thought everything on Ebay was on the up and up?

It is.

Except when it isn't.

Nothing they can do to stop every bit of it.

They can (and should) minimize it, and they should make sure that
transactions are tracable enough so that legal action can be taken if
needed.

They need to monitor, and shut down anyone who does something
improper.

They should really work to make certain that scamsters cannot make up
a new name and get back on the system.

There are issues with differing jurisdictions.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
------------------------------------------------
at the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence

Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom

On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 01:47:07 GMT, marco wrote:

Yes, if the story is true, it is unfortunate the seller got taken.

I myself would not have done business with someone with only
three feedbacks for the $ 1,000 + test gear unless the buyer
wired my money to the bank directly so there would be a paper trail.

If he says no then fine.

I've been using the ebay for four years and not one gotten burned,
always try to deal with established sellers.

Both parties should set terms and conditions which they are
comfortable with. Do not depend on "the system" to protect you, but
make certain there is a paper trail for the transaction, and keep a
log of every step along with papers, and a record of all facts,
numbers, etc.

If anything about the transaction makes you queasy, reconsider dealing
with them. Whatever item you want will pop up on eBay again.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
------------------------------------------------
at the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence

Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom