Dave wrote:
Everytime I exhale [CO2 and H2O vapor] I raise the CO2 polution level.
We simply have to pass a law outlawing exhaling without using a
catalytic converter.

Did you know it was human campfires that caused global
warming and brought us out of the last ice age?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Mr. Presumptive wrote:
"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
. com...

Dave Platt wrote:

It did say that combustion could release CO2 ...

Al Gore will get you for that!
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


My cousin is a Dairy Farmer in PA.
His cows produce more CO2 per hour
than three GMC Pickup trucks running
at idle for the same time period. Wonder how
Mr Goore would address this problem?
Diapers for cows perhaps? (grin)


Methane, Dave.

I won't say that global warming is happening or not. However, the
science is sound regarding CO2, methane, and other gases that tend to
retain heat in the atmosphere. The relationship between these levels and
heat retention is fact.

Perhaps there are mitigating factors going on. Perhaps ocean life can
sequester the excess CO2, perhaps something else?

Instead of picking on "Mr Goore", perhaps you folks that know better
can provide scientific evidence of the mechanisms that are countering
the so called "greenhouse effects.

8^)


Back on topic however, when you get back to the office
next week, just place a call to the mfgr of the product and
ask him to FAX or e-mail you a .pdf file copy of the
Product MSDS sheet. Tell them you're using it at your place
of employment for anti-corrosion usages for commercial
antenna installations and your ISO:9000-2000 Internal
Quality Procedures Manual mandates that all products have
an MSDS sheet on file. I use this 'method' all the time and
it seems to work. : )


A nice Ox-Gard page:


http://www.olypen.com/craigh/oxgard.htm


But cannot find an msds 8^(


- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

Mike Coslo wrote:
I won't say that global warming is happening or not.

Of course, global warming is happening. It has been
going on for tens of thousands of years and happens
every time the earth cyclically emerges from an ice
age as it is doing now.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Cecil Moore wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:

I won't say that global warming is happening or not.


Of course, global warming is happening. It has been
going on for tens of thousands of years and happens
every time the earth cyclically emerges from an ice
age as it is doing now.


I'm speaking of CO2 based global warming, whether as the results of say
volcanic activity, or as a result of the amount of CO2 added to the
atmosphere as a result of combustion release.


May I assume that you believe that glacial cycles are the sole source
of global warming or cooling?

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

Mike Coslo wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:

Mike Coslo wrote:

I won't say that global warming is happening or not.



Of course, global warming is happening. It has been
going on for tens of thousands of years and happens
every time the earth cyclically emerges from an ice
age as it is doing now.



I'm speaking of CO2 based global warming, whether as the results of
say volcanic activity, or as a result of the amount of CO2 added to the
atmosphere as a result of combustion release.


May I assume that you believe that glacial cycles are the sole
source of global warming or cooling?

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -



Hey, Mike. The truth is inconvenient for Cecil.

John

On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 17:15:53 GMT, John - KD5YI
wrote:

Mike Coslo wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:

Mike Coslo wrote:

I won't say that global warming is happening or not.



Of course, global warming is happening. It has been
going on for tens of thousands of years and happens
every time the earth cyclically emerges from an ice
age as it is doing now.



I'm speaking of CO2 based global warming, whether as the results of
say volcanic activity, or as a result of the amount of CO2 added to the
atmosphere as a result of combustion release.


May I assume that you believe that glacial cycles are the sole
source of global warming or cooling?

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -



Hey, Mike. The truth is inconvenient for Cecil.

Hi John,

Cecil's answer, like those of so many politicians, embraces a faulty
premise to dismiss discussion. Imagine those same administration
savants on the upcoming 5th anniversary asking for yet another board
of enquiry for a study into the possibility of WMD in Iraq. That
didn't happen, and yet we get this interminable "Global Warming isn't
so, and it isn't from ____" (fill in the blank with any of a number of
their favorite red herrings).

What's the difference between WMD and Global Warming? What caused the
rush to Iraq, but not to the melting glaciers? Wrap a side of bacon
around Global Warming and it would be covered with Republicans like
flies on their favorite nourishment. ...perhaps if the Eskimos had
gotten to Jack Abramoff first instead of the casino Indians....

Hmmm, a thought occurred, and a little research reveals some
interesting metrics. Oil at Nymex Crude Future is at $69.19/barrel
and Evian (Mineral water from the Alps) is running for $1.69/pint.
Simple conversion reveals Evian outdistances Oil at $743.60/barrel.
Obviously I was wrong about the bacon, Global Warming has
Chateâubriand wrapped around it. I'm surprised the Pentagon hasn't
got F-35's backed up to the glaciers with their after-burners going
24/7/365. Oil-for-water! And a conversion rate that beats taking
graft for a living.

Next week, how Creation Science will have our cars running on water to
wean us from terrorist oil.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Mike Coslo wrote:
May I assume that you believe that glacial cycles are the sole
source of global warming or cooling?

Not the sole source - just the primary source.
120,000 years ago, temperatures peaked higher
than they are presently. These cycles occur in
100k-120k year intervals. CO2 levels always
zoom up and trail off gradually during the peak
temperatures. There is some sort of feedback
mechanism that takes the CO2 levels down.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

John - KD5YI wrote:
Hey, Mike. The truth is inconvenient for Cecil.

Here's the inconvenient truth:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_age

The same thing has happened five times in the past
500,000 years including a few hundred thousand years
before man ever walked the earth. Who caused the
last four global warming cycles?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 18:04:39 GMT, Cecil Moore
wrote:

Who caused the last four global warming cycles?

Who is on first, What's on second, I Don't Know's on third.

Cecil Moore wrote:
Here's the inconvenient truth:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_age

Here more from "21st Century Science and Technology"

http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.co...al_warming.pdf
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp