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Many hams have just gone thru an ice storm where many have lost the end
portions of their elements due to the weight of ice. Strange thing is that many of those hams who suffered damage are confinced that they see NO difference in their shortened antennas and a few were adamant that the performance had IMPROVED One local guru who had many books on radio thought that maybe the real world was different to what he read in books! He then took out his ARRL book and right there is said that gain of two dipoles side by side increases gain in proportion to the spacing between the ends of the dipole. Since this revelation was in a book it was obvious that what other hams were experiencing with their damaged antennas must be true. So the guru purchased two dipole and put them side by side and then remove the ends just as the ice storm would and thus increased the gap between the two dipoles, which the A.R.R.L BOOK said would produce more gain. The guru is now befuddled He listened to experiences in the REAL WORLD and merged it with what must be right because it was in a BOOK but did not get all this extra gravy he was looking for !. What is going on between the real world and what is written in books.? He He! Regards Art |
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![]() Art, Your 'local guru' should pay more attention to what he reads. But then, he should also be able to understand what he read. There is no virtue in misunderstanding what you read. Unless it's the entertainment value of misreading what you read. 'Doc |
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" Art Unwin KB9MZ" wrote in message news:4tBOb.94287$xy6.169075@attbi_s02...
Many hams have just gone thru an ice storm where many have lost the end portions of their elements due to the weight of ice. Strange thing is that many of those hams who suffered damage are confinced that they see NO difference in their shortened antennas and a few were adamant that the performance had IMPROVED What type antenna? How did they test? Dunno...I think they were imagining things.. One local guru who had many books on radio thought that maybe the real world was different to what he read in books! He then took out his ARRL book and right there is said that gain of two dipoles side by side increases gain in proportion to the spacing between the ends of the dipole. Since this revelation was in a book it was obvious that what other hams were experiencing with their damaged antennas must be true. Good grief....:/ So the guru purchased two dipole and put them side by side and then remove the ends just as the ice storm would and thus increased the gap between the two dipoles, which the A.R.R.L BOOK said would produce more gain. Uh....I guess it hasn't sunk in that he no longer has 1/2 wave dipoles anymore. The guru is now befuddled I don't doubt it... He listened to experiences in the REAL WORLD and merged it with what must be right because it was in a BOOK but did not get all this extra gravy he was looking for !. What is going on between the real world and what is written in books.? He is taking what he is reading in books, listening to hokey, most likely untested claims from the real world, and misapplying the info to the antennas he is testing. The book info is correct. I guess it hasn't occurred to him to try two full half wave dipoles like the book intends. MK |
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Art, KB9MZ wrote:
"What is going on between the real world and what is written in books? He He!" Often, execution of what`s written is done poorly. If antenna performance on the band for which an antenna is designed improves when part of the antenna is removed, it`s likely due to poor design or poor implementation, or both. Books are usually carefully done because a mistake is very exposed and is likely to be around on view for a very long time. Art`s quixotic quest is now for high performance in a miniature antenna. I think he wants someone to describe it for him to patent. Such hopes may derive from the observation that gain from parasitic elements in an antenna is optimum with close spacing. Driven arrays such as the W8JK also get gain from close spacing. A price is paid for close spacing. Mutual impedance between elements (coupling) goes up. This reduces radiation resistance and drivepoint resistance. A low radiation resistance is less significant as a part of an antenna`s total resistance. It hurts efficiency. A low drivepoint resistance often requires lossy coils to match to a power source. If shorter elements are used to try to shrink an antenna, they may have low radiation and drivepoint resistances which cause the same inefficiencies as closely coupled elements. Stack elements vertically and more space is required. Place elements end to end and they require a longer space. Put elemants in a plane for an end-fire array and even with close spacing, more space is required. It`s not unusual to yearn for the unattainable but it may be unrealistic to expect an antenna which is tiny, efficient, made of ordinary materials, and uses ordinary construction techniques. Let`s see, if we could only replace the less effective parts of an antenna with parts like the more effective parts---hummmm! Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI |
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