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Old January 19th 04, 08:47 PM
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Default Mechanically designed FM/VHF (87.5-108Mhz) Omidirectional antennas.

In the UK, it seems that apart from the "halo" type omnidirectional antenna
(ie folded dipole bent into a circle) there are no other commercial
omnidirectional offerings. I mean marketed for the listener. So, it looks
like one has to homebrew an FM antenna.

Does anyone know of any online plans for an already mechanically engineered
FM/VHF omnidiectional antenna? Could be turnstile, slim jim, j-pole, ground
plane, co-linear, or whatever. Or, any designes published in magazines.

TIA.



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Old January 19th 04, 11:01 PM
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An approximate 1/2 wave dipole bent into the form of a circle is not an
omnidirectional antenna. But it is good enough not to make a lot of
difference.

It behaves as a magloop with the tuning capacitor set to zero and is
therefore not easily tuneable.

It has a fairly high Q and therefore a narrow bandwidth appreciable smaller
than a 1/2-wave dipole, and the feedpoint impedance is appreciably lower
than the normal 70-ohms.

The narrow bandwidth make a mess of the required wide bandwith of 87.5-108
MHz. This is the main disadvantage compared with a straight 1/2-wave dipole.

The impedance mismatch is high at the band edges of 87.5 and 108 MHz. But
this applies whatever type of antenna(s) is involved.

Unless you want to go to 90-degree phased crossed dipoles your simple
circular loop will be as good as anything.

Or, ideally, you could switch between two well-spaced antennas, orientated
at 90-degrees, each with its own feedline to the receiver.

The other omni-directional antennas you mention are vertically polarised and
are not suitable for reception of FM broadcasting stations.
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In the UK, it seems that apart from the "halo" type omnidirectional

antenna
(ie folded dipole bent into a circle) there are no other commercial
omnidirectional offerings. I mean marketed for the listener. So, it

looks
like one has to homebrew an FM antenna.

Does anyone know of any online plans for an already mechanically

engineered
FM/VHF omnidiectional antenna? Could be turnstile, slim jim, j-pole,

ground
plane, co-linear, or whatever. Or, any designes published in magazines.

TIA.





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Old January 20th 04, 12:02 AM
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Reg Edwards wrote:
An approximate 1/2 wave dipole bent into the form of a circle is not an
omnidirectional antenna. But it is good enough not to make a lot of
difference.

It behaves as a magloop with the tuning capacitor set to zero and is
therefore not easily tuneable.

It has a fairly high Q and therefore a narrow bandwidth appreciable
smaller than a 1/2-wave dipole, and the feedpoint impedance is
appreciably lower than the normal 70-ohms.

The narrow bandwidth make a mess of the required wide bandwith of 87.5-108
MHz. This is the main disadvantage compared with a straight 1/2-wave
dipole.

The impedance mismatch is high at the band edges of 87.5 and 108 MHz. But
this applies whatever type of antenna(s) is involved.


The antenna I was talking about is he

http://www.towerhillaerials.com/view...&orderNumber=0

As far as I know this design is the only commercially available
omnidirectional FM antenna for your general public.

Unless you want to go to 90-degree phased crossed dipoles your simple
circular loop will be as good as anything.


I think turnstile might be better than the "halo".

Or, ideally, you could switch between two well-spaced antennas, orientated
at 90-degrees, each with its own feedline to the receiver.


I don't think that one can buy just a folded dipole for FM. Sure for
broadcasaters (big bucks) but not aimed at your general public. Would like
to see me proved wrong though. :c)

The other omni-directional antennas you mention are vertically polarised
and are not suitable for reception of FM broadcasting stations.


I'm not sure what you say is true. I've been led to beleive that most UK FM
stations are vertical or slant. That ubiquitous "halo" you see, is always
mounted horizontally though. Perhaps wrongly.


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Old January 20th 04, 12:44 AM
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Richard wrote:
Reg Edwards wrote:
The other omni-directional antennas you mention are vertically polarised
and are not suitable for reception of FM broadcasting stations.


I'm not sure what you say is true. I've been led to beleive that most UK
FM stations are vertical or slant. That ubiquitous "halo" you see, is
always mounted horizontally though. Perhaps wrongly.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/radio...al.shtml#humbs

Mostly mixed polarization.

So, I suppose use a vertical or horizontally polarized antenna, no
difference. Preferably vertical to cater for the odd vertically polarized
station.


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