Since I began using Outlook Express as my newsreader I have been able to
implement subject line filters which are nearly perfect in eliminating the
QRM. Every few days I add to this filter as needed.
If you use Outlook Express and are not familiar with filters you are missing
out on a real useful feature.
All you have to do is hit tools/message rules/News. Then build a new filter
"where the subject line contains words" and then put in the words that will
be used to eliminate the QRM. Works as good as a Wouff Hong. Here's my
current list:

contains 'cw-forever' or 'slow code' or 'democrat' or 'Fcc took' or
'rumsfeld' or 'cw' or 'poll' or 'dumber' or 'blog' or 'crapthon' or
'crapathon' or 'cattle' or '...' or 'flonking' or 'punce' or 'passed tech'

Rick K2XT

Works as good as a Wouff Hong.

I should have said "Works ALMOST as well as a Wouff Hong."
Because a real Wouff Hong, properly administered, would eliminate not only
the QRM but the QRM'er - a beautiful thing.

Rick K2XT

argh!!! you just broke the cardinal rule of filtering! NEVER, NEVER,
NEVER, tell the filteree that he is being filtered out! now 'punce' becomes
'pu nce', 'dumber' becomes 'dum6er', etc, etc, etc, and all the filters you
and everyone else had to get rid of those guys are worthless!!!

"Rick" wrote in message
...
Since I began using Outlook Express as my newsreader I have been able to
implement subject line filters which are nearly perfect in eliminating the
QRM. Every few days I add to this filter as needed.
If you use Outlook Express and are not familiar with filters you are
missing out on a real useful feature.
All you have to do is hit tools/message rules/News. Then build a new
filter "where the subject line contains words" and then put in the words
that will be used to eliminate the QRM. Works as good as a Wouff Hong.
Here's my current list:

contains 'cw-forever' or 'slow code' or 'democrat' or 'Fcc took' or
'rumsfeld' or 'cw' or 'poll' or 'dumber' or 'blog' or 'crapthon' or
'crapathon' or 'cattle' or '...' or 'flonking' or 'punce' or 'passed tech'

Rick K2XT

I don't really understand what drives this bunch of posters to cross
post to this and other inappropriate groups. It's apparently some kind
of attention-getting need, like a two year old tugging on your arm.
Reasoning with them in a polite adult way does have about as much effect
as with a two year old, so there is some similarity. If those guys are
really amateurs, their banal postings provide a good reason for any
potential new amateur to avoid amateur radio -- maybe that's their
objective. But in order to keep up the annoying din, they change
"handles" and subject titles almost by the minute. ("Mom!" "Hey,
Mother!" "Muh-thur!" "Mommy!" "Moooom!") This makes filtering just about
as time-consuming a process as just constantly marking the threads as
read as they appear.

I use Thunderbird, which also has filtering capability. But what I'd
*really* like is the ability to filter on the basis of the newsgroups to
which a message is cross-posted. Anything with "policy" or "CB" would be
the first on the list. As open-source code, people are able to and have
created quite a number of Thunderbird add-ins for various jobs. It would
be really cool if someone with a bit of spare time would put together
one to do this kind of filtering. My gut feel is that this wouldn't
require much more than a minor modification of the existing filtering
routine, but I haven't really looked into it.

In the meantime, I just consider the annoying background din as
something that comes with the territory, like mosquitoes in the woods or
lice in cheap hotels. Some effective repellent would be nice, though.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Rick wrote:
Since I began using Outlook Express as my newsreader I have been able to
implement subject line filters which are nearly perfect in eliminating the
QRM. Every few days I add to this filter as needed.
If you use Outlook Express and are not familiar with filters you are missing
out on a real useful feature.
All you have to do is hit tools/message rules/News. Then build a new filter
"where the subject line contains words" and then put in the words that will
be used to eliminate the QRM. Works as good as a Wouff Hong. Here's my
current list:

contains 'cw-forever' or 'slow code' or 'democrat' or 'Fcc took' or
'rumsfeld' or 'cw' or 'poll' or 'dumber' or 'blog' or 'crapthon' or
'crapathon' or 'cattle' or '...' or 'flonking' or 'punce' or 'passed tech'

Rick K2XT

"Dave" wrote in


argh!!! you just broke the cardinal rule of filtering! NEVER, NEVER,
NEVER, tell the filteree that he is being filtered out! now 'punce'
becomes 'pu nce', 'dumber' becomes 'dum6er', etc, etc, etc, and all
the filters you and everyone else had to get rid of those guys are
worthless!!!


Not really a problem for me. With my news reader, its so easy to add a
new filter... it essentially takes less time than reading one or two
additional post from the idiots, so is well worth the effort.

Roy Lewallen wrote:
I don't really understand what drives this bunch of posters to cross
post to this and other inappropriate groups. It's apparently some kind
of attention-getting need, like a two year old tugging on your arm.

Two basic issues, Roy. The first one is that these individuals are not
considering that there is a human behind the others they are playing
their little game with - it's just a big text based interactive game.
The second issue is more serious I'm afraid. We can figure out that one
from the content of their posts.

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

"Roy Lewallen" wrote in message
...
I don't really understand what drives this bunch of posters to cross
post to this and other inappropriate groups. It's apparently some kind
of attention-getting need, like a two year old tugging on your arm.

Yes, an attention-getting need. It could be an extension of something I
learned as a little kid: If the kids grabbed one kid's hat, objecting just
prolonged the game. The hat would be tossed around as long as the hatless
one kept chasing it.

The trolls' NG behavior seems like a modern-day hat grab. If you want them
to lose interest, stop chasing the hat.

"Sal"

PS: I have a similar Outlook filter list.

Roy Lewallen wrote:
I don't really understand what drives this bunch of posters to cross
post to this and other inappropriate groups.
snip

Roy Lewallen, W7EL
They are doing nothing different to what hams have been doing
for years on this newsgroup, They don't need antennas to start
an augument and be nasty to each other and are having the same
fun that hams had before until there was no more left to push away.
Since all is known about antennas surely hams should step aside
and allow others to use this frequency?, If not hang in there and
join them since bashing people is what you enjoy , you will not
\have the same success that you have had in the past pushing
people away.
Love it or leave it seems to be the way to go because "others" are
not going any where. Sit back and learn to live with the likes of
slow slow code and others they are more like you than you think!
Art

Rick wrote:
Since I began using Outlook Express as my newsreader I have been able to
implement subject line filters which are nearly perfect in eliminating the
QRM. Every few days I add to this filter as needed.
If you use Outlook Express and are not familiar with filters you are missing
out on a real useful feature.
All you have to do is hit tools/message rules/News. Then build a new filter
"where the subject line contains words" and then put in the words that will
be used to eliminate the QRM. Works as good as a Wouff Hong. Here's my
current list:

contains 'cw-forever' or 'slow code' or 'democrat' or 'Fcc took' or
'rumsfeld' or 'cw' or 'poll' or 'dumber' or 'blog' or 'crapthon' or
'crapathon' or 'cattle' or '...' or 'flonking' or 'punce' or 'passed tech'

Rick K2XT

You forgot to add "money", "stocks", "earn", "at home", "wealth",
"vitamin", "health", "sex", "male potency", and "viagra" to your list
of spam subjects.

Lloyd Wiseman wrote:
"Rick" wrote in
:


Works as good as a Wouff Hong.

I should have said "Works ALMOST as well as a Wouff Hong."
Because a real Wouff Hong, properly administered, would eliminate not
only the QRM but the QRM'er - a beautiful thing.

Rick K2XT


Get used to the QRM, because after CW is eliminated you're going to wish
your rig did come with Rettysnitch and wouff hong filters...

But I forget, due to the lack of support for good tests a lot of you
people must like hearing Lids.

SC

Wouff Hong ???
Rettysnitch ???
WTF are we in the 19th Century here???
Baaaaaaaaa hahahahhahahahahhahaha!!!!!!!

Jeezus H Christmas on a rocket powered sled at the Nevada test site
will you OBSOLETE hams PLEASE join the 21st century.

I mean consider that the terms Wouff Hong and Rettysnitch
DO NOT even appear ANYPLACE on or within Wikipedia!

That alone should tell you something! (..of course now you
can be some crusty old fart, cloistered ham radio nerd or
some asshole who took the "Bash Book" route to get his ham
license will now dash up and create an entry in Wikipaeda
just to inflate his own ego and asscheeks and claim he did
something.....go ahead, be my guest! In the meantime I'm
heading back to 20 Meters to have some fun with the contest
freaks. I made up a callsign and semi-rare section and these
CLOWN-testers are beating a path to my speaker to work me
just so they can see their callsign in print in some half-ass
magazine from CT. How F-N pathetic! ) --- PFHBLTTT!!!!!!!!

ps: you should have seen how many DX clowntesters I duped
a few weeks ago using a "creative" callsign, section and running
10 watts into the 40M dipole instead of the beam...suckers!