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Hello everyone I am looking for detailed plans for an AM loop. I will
be using it only for one frequency 1370AM so I dont want any tuners just a
simple AM Loop antenna for my AM radio. I will have to solder a 1/8 plug to
a 6-8 ft feedline to connect to my radio. It is a Kaito portable model
1103. I want to built this AM Loop cause I listen to talk radio alot and
the static and other distant stations sometimes make it hard. I have done
alot of looking around on google searches but have found no real detailed
plans I am not sure if I should go with edge wound or Spiral wound. Any
info you guys can give especially a detailed plan would be greatly
appreciated. or maybe there is a website I may not have seen you would like
to suggest. I am sure I have seen most of them atleast the most popular
ones. Anyways thanks in advance for any input Bill
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Just before you go to a lot of work, have you tried rotating
the radio? Most have a ferrite loop antenna which is pretty
directional.

Irv VE6BP

Bill wrote:

Hello everyone I am looking for detailed plans for an AM loop. I will
be using it only for one frequency 1370AM

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Yes I have lol The station I am trying to recieve usually comes in pretty
good but sometimes at night it gets noisy. It is my understanding that an
external AM Loop antenna will recieve better than an internal loop that
comes with a small portable. I also have heard that a Loop picks up less
noise than an internal ferrite loop or random wire would. I have heard that
these external AM Loop antennas used to be quite common in the good ol'
days. But that they fell out of favor with most people to be replaced with
the internal ferrite loopstick antennas. If anyone has some detailed plans
for these older styled external AM Loop antennas I would really like to get
ahold of them. Thanks in Advance Bill

"Irv Finkleman" wrote in message
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Just before you go to a lot of work, have you tried rotating
the radio? Most have a ferrite loop antenna which is pretty
directional.

Irv VE6BP

Bill wrote:

Hello everyone I am looking for detailed plans for an AM loop. I will
be using it only for one frequency 1370AM

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Visit my Baby Sofia website at http://members.shaw.ca/finkirv4/index.htm
Visit my OLDTIMERS website at http://members.shaw.ca/finkirv5/index.htm
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Calgary, Alberta, Canada



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Hello Bill,

Try -
http://rffun.com/catalog/mwant/4316.html

Variable caps are getting hard to come by, so a $49.95 to $59.95 price
for the completed project seems very reasonable. I purchased one of
these for my step father and it works great. You probably will not need
a direct connection to the radio, just place the Select-A-Tenna next to
the radio.

If you are determined to build one (as I was), just google
"AM Loop Antenna"
Lots of great articles out there.

Regards,

Christopher Cox

Bill wrote:
Hello everyone I am looking for detailed plans for an AM loop. I will
be using it only for one frequency 1370AM so I dont want any tuners just a
simple AM Loop antenna for my AM radio. I will have to solder a 1/8 plug to
a 6-8 ft feedline to connect to my radio. It is a Kaito portable model
1103. I want to built this AM Loop cause I listen to talk radio alot and
the static and other distant stations sometimes make it hard. I have done
alot of looking around on google searches but have found no real detailed
plans I am not sure if I should go with edge wound or Spiral wound. Any
info you guys can give especially a detailed plan would be greatly
appreciated. or maybe there is a website I may not have seen you would like
to suggest. I am sure I have seen most of them atleast the most popular
ones. Anyways thanks in advance for any input Bill

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Default Simple AM Loop Antenna?

Thanks for the input Christopher I am indeed determined to build one. I
don't want to build a tuning one though. I am more interested in a simple AM
Loop that just connects to my radio to pick up AM broadcast. These use to be
popular. I suppose it was when radios first started to come out. Anyways
like I said they eventually were replaced by internal Ferrite loopsticks. I
suppose people did not like these big ugly antennas on top of there radio. I
don't think these old AM Loops had Tuners. And I think they may have been
spiral wound. You connect the 2 wires from the antenna to the screw
terminals on the back of the radio. But in my case I would have to connect
an 1/8 plug to plug into my Radio. I have no idea what the size of the frame
would be? How long the wire would be? and how many turns around the frame to
make? I have searched Google and have not found what I am looking for there.
I have found a couple of books but can't afford the price tag at the moment.
I don't even know If the antenna I am looking for is even in the book. Here
is a link to a few I have found if anyone is curious.
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/books/0016.html
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/books/3113.html
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/books/0533.html
If anyone else has any suggestions I am all ears. Or if you have any of
these books and could comment on it. I appreciate it.
Thank You Bill

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Hello Bill,

Try -
http://rffun.com/catalog/mwant/4316.html

Variable caps are getting hard to come by, so a $49.95 to $59.95 price for
the completed project seems very reasonable. I purchased one of these for
my step father and it works great. You probably will not need a direct
connection to the radio, just place the Select-A-Tenna next to the radio.

If you are determined to build one (as I was), just google
"AM Loop Antenna"
Lots of great articles out there.

Regards,

Christopher Cox

Bill wrote:
Hello everyone I am looking for detailed plans for an AM loop. I will
be using it only for one frequency 1370AM so I dont want any tuners just
a simple AM Loop antenna for my AM radio. I will have to solder a 1/8
plug to a 6-8 ft feedline to connect to my radio. It is a Kaito portable
model 1103. I want to built this AM Loop cause I listen to talk radio
alot and the static and other distant stations sometimes make it hard. I
have done alot of looking around on google searches but have found no
real detailed plans I am not sure if I should go with edge wound or
Spiral wound. Any info you guys can give especially a detailed plan would
be greatly appreciated. or maybe there is a website I may not have seen
you would like to suggest. I am sure I have seen most of them atleast the
most popular ones. Anyways thanks in advance for any input Bill





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"Bill" wrote in message
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Thanks for the input Christopher I am indeed determined to build one.
I don't want to build a tuning one though. I am more interested in a
simple AM Loop that just connects to my radio to pick up AM broadcast.
These use to be popular. I suppose it was when radios first started to
come out. Anyways like I said they eventually were replaced by internal
Ferrite loopsticks. I suppose people did not like these big ugly antennas
on top of there radio. I don't think these old AM Loops had Tuners. And I
think they may have been spiral wound. You connect the 2 wires from the
antenna to the screw terminals on the back of the radio. But in my case I
would have to connect an 1/8 plug to plug into my Radio. I have no idea
what the size of the frame would be? How long the wire would be? and how
many turns around the frame to make? I have searched Google and have not
found what I am looking for there. I have found a couple of books but
can't afford the price tag at the moment. I don't even know If the antenna
I am looking for is even in the book. Here is a link to a few I have found
if anyone is curious.
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/books/0016.html
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/books/3113.html
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/books/0533.html
If anyone else has any suggestions I am all ears. Or if you have any of
these books and could comment on it. I appreciate it.
Thank You Bill

"Christopher Cox" wrote in message
...
Hello Bill,

Try -
http://rffun.com/catalog/mwant/4316.html

Variable caps are getting hard to come by, so a $49.95 to $59.95 price
for the completed project seems very reasonable. I purchased one of these
for my step father and it works great. You probably will not need a
direct connection to the radio, just place the Select-A-Tenna next to the
radio.

If you are determined to build one (as I was), just google
"AM Loop Antenna"
Lots of great articles out there.

Regards,

Christopher Cox

Bill wrote:
Hello everyone I am looking for detailed plans for an AM loop. I
will be using it only for one frequency 1370AM so I dont want any tuners
just a simple AM Loop antenna for my AM radio. I will have to solder a
1/8 plug to a 6-8 ft feedline to connect to my radio. It is a Kaito
portable model 1103. I want to built this AM Loop cause I listen to talk
radio alot and the static and other distant stations sometimes make it
hard. I have done alot of looking around on google searches but have
found no real detailed plans I am not sure if I should go with edge
wound or Spiral wound. Any info you guys can give especially a detailed
plan would be greatly appreciated. or maybe there is a website I may not
have seen you would like to suggest. I am sure I have seen most of them
atleast the most popular ones. Anyways thanks in advance for any input
Bill


Hi Bill

I built a couple AM loops last year. One is 4 feet on a side and the
other is 2 feet on a side. Both are made from PVC pipe and "hook up
wire". I can send you pictures.
If *I* was involved with the project of building this loop with you, I'd
sure try to get you to make tunable. Both of my AM loops are very sensitive
to getting the capacitor adjusted properly. I have connected the loops to
the receiver with two parallel wires from the antenna to the receiver.
That seems to work OK.

There is lots and lots of instructions for designing and building AM loops
on the Internet. From what I read, you are mainly interested in building
just one good antenna. You may not need a book for that.

Jerry
Jerry


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On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 20:34:30 -0600, Bill wrote:
Thanks for the input Christopher I am indeed determined to build one.
I don't want to build a tuning one though.


Go ahead and build a tuneable one. It's not _that_ more complicated.
Besides, the minute you would finish your no-tune antenna, Clear Channel
Communications will buy up your favorite talk station and convert it to
country and western. Then you'll have to look elsewhere up and down the
AM band.

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"Irv Finkleman" wrote in message
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Just before you go to a lot of work, have you tried rotating
the radio? Most have a ferrite loop antenna which is pretty
directional.

Irv VE6BP

Bill wrote:

Hello everyone I am looking for detailed plans for an AM loop. I will
be using it only for one frequency 1370AM

--------------------------------------
Visit my HomePage at http://members.shaw.ca/finkirv/index.html
Visit my Baby Sofia website at http://members.shaw.ca/finkirv4/index.htm
Visit my OLDTIMERS website at http://members.shaw.ca/finkirv5/index.htm
--------------------
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Grampa/Ex-Navy/Old Fart/Ham Radio VE6BP
Calgary, Alberta, Canada



I think just about anything is better than the ferrite antenna in most AM
BCB radios.
When I was a teenager the local 5KW radio station would go directional and
reduce its power to 1kW. When it did this I could barely pick it up.
Five miles down the road it boomed in. Unfortunately this was also the time
it started the programing I enjoyed. I already had 4 hooks in the wall
roughly in a square so I drped some antenna rotr wire arounfd the hooks and
connected the ends together to form a coil. From the two open ends I ran a
coax to a two turn loop i slipped over the ferrite antenna. worked like a
champ not to mention it allowed me to pick up a lot of other radio stations
from my South Ga.location including WLS with John "records truly is my
middle name " Landecker. After being able to pick up WLS I soon lost
interest in the local station.

Anyway this was probably not the best antenna but it did the job.


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After searching for about a week now on Google I think I may have stumbled
on something here. What do you guys think about this AM loop? If nothing
else it should atleast work better than the internal Ferrite Loopstick
right? It requires no tuner.
http://members.cox.net/rwagoner/columns/am_antenna.html

"Bill" wrote in message
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Hello everyone I am looking for detailed plans for an AM loop. I will
be using it only for one frequency 1370AM so I dont want any tuners just a
simple AM Loop antenna for my AM radio. I will have to solder a 1/8 plug
to
a 6-8 ft feedline to connect to my radio. It is a Kaito portable model
1103. I want to built this AM Loop cause I listen to talk radio alot and
the static and other distant stations sometimes make it hard. I have done
alot of looking around on google searches but have found no real detailed
plans I am not sure if I should go with edge wound or Spiral wound. Any
info you guys can give especially a detailed plan would be greatly
appreciated. or maybe there is a website I may not have seen you would
like
to suggest. I am sure I have seen most of them atleast the most popular
ones. Anyways thanks in advance for any input Bill



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I think just about anything is better than the ferrite antenna in most AM
BCB radios.
When I was a teenager the local 5KW radio station would go directional and
reduce its power to 1kW. When it did this I could barely pick it up.
Five miles down the road it boomed in. Unfortunately this was also the
time it started the programing I enjoyed. I already had 4 hooks in the
wall roughly in a square so I drped some antenna rotr wire arounfd the
hooks and connected the ends together to form a coil. From the two open
ends I ran a coax to a two turn loop i slipped over the ferrite antenna.
worked like a champ not to mention it allowed me to pick up a lot of other
radio stations from my South Ga.location including WLS with John "records
truly is my middle name " Landecker. After being able to pick up WLS I
soon lost interest in the local station.

Anyway this was probably not the best antenna but it did the job.


Could be the antenna was coupled to the radio by just wraping the coupling
coil around the radio. I forget which way worked the best now.


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