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I feel reborn. At long last I will be able to be a real ham. Thank you,
FCC.

73 from KD6VKW, AKA Sal M. Onella


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John Markham wrote:
I feel reborn. At long last I will be able to be a real ham. Thank you,
FCC.

73 from KD6VKW, AKA Sal M. Onella

Congrats John you join the club at a unique time where computors are
being used to further the hobby, new horizons that bring challenges
that us old guys never had to deal with. There is nothing like plunging
into unknown brush for miles and miles to come upon a scene that has
never been seen before. Those who take only an easy path will not get
all those scratches and bites that you got on your journey
but you will be the first to get to the top of the mountain before all
the followers and that is the joy of ham radio.
Welcome
Art

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"art" wrote in
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John Markham wrote:
I feel reborn. At long last I will be able to be a real ham. Thank
you, FCC.

73 from KD6VKW, AKA Sal M. Onella

Congrats John you join the club at a unique time where computors are
being used to further the hobby, new horizons that bring challenges
that us old guys never had to deal with. There is nothing like
plunging into unknown brush for miles and miles to come upon a scene
that has never been seen before. Those who take only an easy path will
not get all those scratches and bites that you got on your journey
but you will be the first to get to the top of the mountain before all
the followers and that is the joy of ham radio.
Welcome
Art



A little bit of a different perspective if I may.

I am quite hard of hearing. Tinnitus is the main problem. Imagine
trying to copy code with 20 over 9 noise. Haven't experienced silence since
I was 18 y.o. Plus I have several frequency holes in my hearing, estimated
at over 100 db deep.

I studied Morse code for over 6 months, several hours a day. All that
to get to around 7wpm, a level at which a number of code proficient hams
won't even bother to communicate with me.

Flunked Element 1 the first time, a bit of humiliation for a person
who is used to reading something once, then aceing the test.

After passing, I try a bit of CW Morse from time to time, but mostly
do things like PSK and RTTY, which are visual in nature. I can also contest
on SSB and PSK/RTTY, and am very active in Amateur radio, including public
service, and am the chairman of the premier State QSO party in the country.
Not too bad for a person who could barely pass the Morse code test -
according to some, the litmus test of worthyness. Yeah, I'm a nickle extra.
Big deal. I only passed 5 wpm, and you're a jerk.
(those who would determine worthyness in relation to the speed at which
they can swipe a paddle)

I am the poster child for elimination of the Morse code proficiency
requirement.

But!

When I first got involved in Ham Radio in 1999, a lot of people told
me that I should hold off on the upgrade, because Morse code proficiency
was going to go away "soon".

I didn't listen to them, and I'm glad, because all I would have done
is cheated myself out of 8 maybe 9 years of the best hobby I've ever found.
It was worth all the trouble and more.

So if you have waited for the Morse code testing to go away to upgrade,
then congratulations, and welcome to the fraternity, but please accept my
sympathy for cheating yourself out of a few years of this incredible hobby.


Finally, if KB7ADL is indeed "Slow Code", I would suggest that you
look at your own behavior and decide if it is consistent with the type of
people who are in amateur radio who know Morse code well. However nothing
is entirely good or bad. The "Slow Code" crosspostings finally got me off
the stick to get a newsreader that could filter out the Morse code drivel
and the bizzare crosspostings from people with *serious* issues. Thank you!


Morse code testing is dead. Long live Morse CW!

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

with one legit crosspost to rrap.....


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On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 22:37:18 -0600, Mike Coslo
wrote:

"art" wrote in
oups.com:


John Markham wrote:
I feel reborn. At long last I will be able to be a real ham. Thank
you, FCC.

73 from KD6VKW, AKA Sal M. Onella
Congrats John you join the club at a unique time where computors are
being used to further the hobby, new horizons that bring challenges
that us old guys never had to deal with. There is nothing like
plunging into unknown brush for miles and miles to come upon a scene
that has never been seen before. Those who take only an easy path will
not get all those scratches and bites that you got on your journey
but you will be the first to get to the top of the mountain before all
the followers and that is the joy of ham radio.
Welcome
Art



A little bit of a different perspective if I may.

I am quite hard of hearing. Tinnitus is the main problem. Imagine
trying to copy code with 20 over 9 noise. Haven't experienced silence

since
I was 18 y.o. Plus I have several frequency holes in my hearing,

estimated
at over 100 db deep.

I studied Morse code for over 6 months, several hours a day. All that
to get to around 7wpm, a level at which a number of code proficient hams
won't even bother to communicate with me.

Flunked Element 1 the first time, a bit of humiliation for a person
who is used to reading something once, then aceing the test.

After passing, I try a bit of CW Morse from time to time, but mostly
do things like PSK and RTTY, which are visual in nature. I can also

contest
on SSB and PSK/RTTY, and am very active in Amateur radio, including

public
service, and am the chairman of the premier State QSO party in the

country.
Not too bad for a person who could barely pass the Morse code test -
according to some, the litmus test of worthyness. Yeah, I'm a nickle

extra.
Big deal. I only passed 5 wpm, and you're a jerk.
(those who would determine worthyness in relation to the speed at which
they can swipe a paddle)

I am the poster child for elimination of the Morse code proficiency
requirement.


I wasted % year not manging it mike I am gald you had a choice I did
not

I also get tired of the cripple chaste BS I am crippled could do
theefore anybody could code testing is dead can we let bashing people
as lazy die with it?

But!

When I first got involved in Ham Radio in 1999, a lot of people told
me that I should hold off on the upgrade, because Morse code proficiency
was going to go away "soon".

I didn't listen to them, and I'm glad, because all I would have done
is cheated myself out of 8 maybe 9 years of the best hobby I've ever

found.
It was worth all the trouble and more.

So if you have waited for the Morse code testing to go away to upgrade,
then congratulations, and welcome to the fraternity, but please accept my
sympathy for cheating yourself out of a few years of this incredible

hobby.

no cheating here

Finally, if KB7ADL is indeed "Slow Code", I would suggest that you
look at your own behavior and decide if it is consistent with the type of
people who are in amateur radio who know Morse code well. However nothing
is entirely good or bad. The "Slow Code" crosspostings finally got me off
the stick to get a newsreader that could filter out the Morse code drivel
and the bizzare crosspostings from people with *serious* issues. Thank

you!

SC is abd ham if a ham at all and KB7ADL is foolish one wether he is
SC or not


Morse code testing is dead. Long live Morse CW!

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

with one legit crosspost to rrap.....


Moaning Mark will soon be moaning in ecstacy over the elimination of CW as a
licensing requirement, if he is not already.
I welcome the new users to the HF frequencies providing they comport
themselves well. The first time I hear an idiot no-coder using an echo box
or telling someone, "ten-roger", I am going to speak up.
As for my previous offer to meet Mork on 17 meters? Consider it rescinded.

There is another *plus* to this new rule change in that this will give Woger
that many more stations to jam. Tune up your rigs, Wabbit. There is a whole
new flock of newbies in the wings who are ripe and ready for your brand of
harrassment.





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Mike Coslo wrote:
"art" wrote in
ups.com:


John Markham wrote:
I feel reborn. At long last I will be able to be a real ham. Thank
you, FCC.

73 from KD6VKW, AKA Sal M. Onella

Congrats John you join the club at a unique time where computors are
being used to further the hobby, new horizons that bring challenges
that us old guys never had to deal with. There is nothing like
plunging into unknown brush for miles and miles to come upon a scene
that has never been seen before. Those who take only an easy path will
not get all those scratches and bites that you got on your journey
but you will be the first to get to the top of the mountain before all
the followers and that is the joy of ham radio.
Welcome
Art



A little bit of a different perspective if I may.

I am quite hard of hearing. Tinnitus is the main problem. Imagine
trying to copy code with 20 over 9 noise. Haven't experienced silence since
I was 18 y.o. Plus I have several frequency holes in my hearing, estimated
at over 100 db deep.

I studied Morse code for over 6 months, several hours a day. All that
to get to around 7wpm, a level at which a number of code proficient hams
won't even bother to communicate with me.

Flunked Element 1 the first time, a bit of humiliation for a person
who is used to reading something once, then aceing the test.

After passing, I try a bit of CW Morse from time to time, but mostly
do things like PSK and RTTY, which are visual in nature. I can also contest
on SSB and PSK/RTTY, and am very active in Amateur radio, including public
service, and am the chairman of the premier State QSO party in the country.
Not too bad for a person who could barely pass the Morse code test -
according to some, the litmus test of worthyness. Yeah, I'm a nickle extra.
Big deal. I only passed 5 wpm, and you're a jerk.
(those who would determine worthyness in relation to the speed at which
they can swipe a paddle)

I am the poster child for elimination of the Morse code proficiency
requirement.

But!

When I first got involved in Ham Radio in 1999, a lot of people told
me that I should hold off on the upgrade, because Morse code proficiency
was going to go away "soon".

I didn't listen to them, and I'm glad, because all I would have done
is cheated myself out of 8 maybe 9 years of the best hobby I've ever found.
It was worth all the trouble and more.

So if you have waited for the Morse code testing to go away to upgrade,
then congratulations, and welcome to the fraternity, but please accept my
sympathy for cheating yourself out of a few years of this incredible hobby.


Finally, if KB7ADL is indeed "Slow Code", I would suggest that you
look at your own behavior and decide if it is consistent with the type of
people who are in amateur radio who know Morse code well. However nothing
is entirely good or bad. The "Slow Code" crosspostings finally got me off
the stick to get a newsreader that could filter out the Morse code drivel
and the bizzare crosspostings from people with *serious* issues. Thank you!


Morse code testing is dead. Long live Morse CW!

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

with one legit crosspost to rrap.....

I PUNCE



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Ron wrote:
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On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 22:37:18 -0600, Mike Coslo
wrote:

"art" wrote in
oups.com:


John Markham wrote:
I feel reborn. At long last I will be able to be a real ham. Thank
you, FCC.

73 from KD6VKW, AKA Sal M. Onella
Congrats John you join the club at a unique time where computors are
being used to further the hobby, new horizons that bring challenges
that us old guys never had to deal with. There is nothing like
plunging into unknown brush for miles and miles to come upon a scene
that has never been seen before. Those who take only an easy path will
not get all those scratches and bites that you got on your journey
but you will be the first to get to the top of the mountain before all
the followers and that is the joy of ham radio.
Welcome
Art



A little bit of a different perspective if I may.

I am quite hard of hearing. Tinnitus is the main problem. Imagine
trying to copy code with 20 over 9 noise. Haven't experienced silence

since
I was 18 y.o. Plus I have several frequency holes in my hearing,

estimated
at over 100 db deep.

I studied Morse code for over 6 months, several hours a day. All that
to get to around 7wpm, a level at which a number of code proficient hams
won't even bother to communicate with me.

Flunked Element 1 the first time, a bit of humiliation for a person
who is used to reading something once, then aceing the test.

After passing, I try a bit of CW Morse from time to time, but mostly
do things like PSK and RTTY, which are visual in nature. I can also

contest
on SSB and PSK/RTTY, and am very active in Amateur radio, including

public
service, and am the chairman of the premier State QSO party in the

country.
Not too bad for a person who could barely pass the Morse code test -
according to some, the litmus test of worthyness. Yeah, I'm a nickle

extra.
Big deal. I only passed 5 wpm, and you're a jerk.
(those who would determine worthyness in relation to the speed at which
they can swipe a paddle)

I am the poster child for elimination of the Morse code proficiency
requirement.


I wasted % year not manging it mike I am gald you had a choice I did
not

I also get tired of the cripple chaste BS I am crippled could do
theefore anybody could code testing is dead can we let bashing people
as lazy die with it?

But!

When I first got involved in Ham Radio in 1999, a lot of people told
me that I should hold off on the upgrade, because Morse code proficiency
was going to go away "soon".

I didn't listen to them, and I'm glad, because all I would have done
is cheated myself out of 8 maybe 9 years of the best hobby I've ever

found.
It was worth all the trouble and more.

So if you have waited for the Morse code testing to go away to upgrade,
then congratulations, and welcome to the fraternity, but please accept my
sympathy for cheating yourself out of a few years of this incredible

hobby.

no cheating here

Finally, if KB7ADL is indeed "Slow Code", I would suggest that you
look at your own behavior and decide if it is consistent with the type of
people who are in amateur radio who know Morse code well. However nothing
is entirely good or bad. The "Slow Code" crosspostings finally got me off
the stick to get a newsreader that could filter out the Morse code drivel
and the bizzare crosspostings from people with *serious* issues. Thank

you!

SC is abd ham if a ham at all and KB7ADL is foolish one wether he is
SC or not


Morse code testing is dead. Long live Morse CW!

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

with one legit crosspost to rrap.....


Moaning Mark will soon be moaning in ecstacy over the elimination of CW as a
licensing requirement, if he is not already.
I welcome the new users to the HF frequencies providing they comport
themselves well. The first time I hear an idiot no-coder using an echo box
or telling someone, "ten-roger", I am going to speak up.
As for my previous offer to meet Mork on 17 meters? Consider it rescinded.

There is another *plus* to this new rule change in that this will give Woger
that many more stations to jam. Tune up your rigs, Wabbit. There is a whole
new flock of newbies in the wings who are ripe and ready for your brand of
harrassment.

I PUNCE

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Welcome
Art


Thank you, sir.

John


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Please folks, do not reply to these off topic posts.

If these idiots never get any replies, they will eventually give up
and go away.

Thanks,

Bill, W6WRT
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Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote in
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I apologized for disturbing you fine people. The issue has been decided,
now we live with it. Where we have problems, we do what good hams do, we
work together to solve the problems. That's all that there is left to say
about it.

73

KB7ADL, formerly Slow Code


you planing on leaving the ARS as you promised?

or anything about apolgizing for your calls to throw half the ars off
the air

or...?

I could go on but my point is made

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Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL wrote:

I apologized for disturbing you fine people. The issue has been decided,
now we live with it. Where we have problems, we do what good hams do, we
work together to solve the problems. That's all that there is left to say
about it.

73

KB7ADL, formerly Slow Code


I pity you.

JS
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