"merlin-7" wrote in message
...
Just one note...I passed my code test and have not used it since. I am not
saying that I will never use it. I just have not had any interest in it
yet.
Does it make me a better ham haveing passed code?

Joe

Perhaps in some ways. Keep in mind that in having passed it, you now know
that you are able to learn this. Therefore should you wish to go further
with this aspect of amateur radio in the future, you will have the
confidence to tackle it and get it into usable shape. This gives you a
great advantage over those that listened to the bull about it being "too
hard" and thus were afraid to try and will probably continue to be afraid to
try.

Dee, N8UZE

Stefan Wolfe wrote:
wrote in message
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From: on Thurs, Dec 28 2006 6:04 pm

wrote:
Stefan Wolfe wrote:

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I guess no one cares that Stefan come on here bitchin and moaning and
crying about the "dumbing down" of USA amateur radio, and he has no
apparent license.

How easily everyone gets fooled by these trolls.

Maybe he got his given name spelled wrong? Like "Steppin Wolfe?"
:-)
Maybe this Stefan is really Mikey Deignan trying to get some new
Club Calls to replace the ones taken away from him? :-)

[the "KH6" is now a resident of Bedford, MA...no longer having a
PO box in Hawaii courtesy of Jeff Herman]

Hmmm...whatever happened to Eric June, the self-appointed
president and director of "Know Code International?" :-)

Hey Len, you've been flaming code on these groups since at least 1996...I
can still remember when you got on the rec.radio groups the first time.

No you can't. There was no Stefan Wolfe here in 1996. And there is no
amateur radio license issued to Stefan Wolfe.

Somehow, as a brilliant electronics engineer you were never able to master
the skill of sending and receiving letters represented as dits and dahs and
this kept you off HF...

Is that what's been keeping you off of HF? No license is issued to
Stefan Wolfe.

Odd, but Len has been on HF through SHF. All without code.

but you always had vastly superior academic skills
in the field of RF that fact seemed to make the skill of simple Morse
communication seem so irrelevant in today's modern world.

Len's knowledge of RF had nothing to do with it (sorry Len). Morse
Code became irrelevant all by itself.

Now you no longer need that skill and the doors have swung open. Does that
mean you will make yourself and your brilliant mind available to the
unwashed masses of hams

There are no unwashed masses of hams. Maybe there are a few
individuals at hamfests that might pay more attention to personal
hygeine, but no masses.

who only know how to pound keys?

Welp, there are a bunch who know how to pound their chests. That's
what the ARRL VP was saying when K4YZ attacked me.

Will you now be
getting your extra class and dazzling us with new ideas and inventions that
will forever modernize the amateur modes, you know, the sort of achievements
you always said would be possible if only they got rid of that nasty Morse
test?

How about if he does as much innovating as has N2EY, W3RV, K0HB, K8MN,
and K4YZ.

Hmmm? Did I leave Cecil off the list on purpose?

We will all be waiting Len.

We? You are trolls?

merlin-7 wrote:
Just one note...I passed my code test and have not used it since. I am not
saying that I will never use it. I just have not had any interest in it yet.
Does it make me a better ham haveing passed code?

Joe

Joe, it doesn't. There are lots of 20WPM Code-Tape Extras - who've
never had a single CW contact in their lives and never will. If a ham
must be judged, judge him or her on their conduct and value that they
add to the service.

Dee Flint wrote:
"merlin-7" wrote in message
...
Just one note...I passed my code test and have not used it since. I am not
saying that I will never use it. I just have not had any interest in it
yet.
Does it make me a better ham haveing passed code?

Joe

Perhaps in some ways. Keep in mind that in having passed it, you now know
that you are able to learn this. Therefore should you wish to go further
with this aspect of amateur radio in the future, you will have the
confidence to tackle it and get it into usable shape. This gives you a
great advantage over those that listened to the bull about it being "too
hard" and thus were afraid to try and will probably continue to be afraid to
try.

Dee, N8UZE

Then there's always the "bull" of people who learned it with difficulty.

"merlin-7" wrote in message
...

Does it make me a better ham haveing passed code?

Of course, your question is rhetorical and nobody knows if you are a good
amateur, or a bad one, or what it might take to make you a better one.. Your
might be a 75m late night quarmer or you might have provided significant
radio communications for rescuers during the San Farncisco earthquake. Who
knows?

Passing the code test used to simply increase one's qualifications; it
obviously did not in itself make one a better practitioner of the service.
Now ,of course, passing code has no meaning at all; it is similar to Cecil
Moore having passed the mensa test.

Did passing mensa make Cecil a better engineer?

From: on Fri, Dec 29 2006 4:44 am

wrote:
From: on Thurs, Dec 28 2006 6:04 pm
wrote:
Stefan Wolfe wrote:

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I guess no one cares that Stefan come on here bitchin and moaning and
crying about the "dumbing down" of USA amateur radio, and he has no
apparent license.

How easily everyone gets fooled by these trolls.

Maybe he got his given name spelled wrong? Like "Steppin Wolfe?"
:-)

Very psychodelic. Don't get rug burns from the magic carpet ride.

Very psycho if you ask me... :-)


SAN FRANCISCO: It may be the ultimate SOS.

Morse Code is in distress.
......
......
While the decision had been expected, some ham radio operators fear that
their exclusive club has been opened to the unwashed masses
- and that the very survival of Morse Code is in question.
......
The demise of the Morse requirement, however,

There has never been any "Morse Requirement." No particular mode is
mandated.

That's right. And there's no requirement to get on the air once you do
have a license.

Horrors! Isn't Ham Radio ALL about "working DX on HF with CW?"

That's correct. Anything less than than just makes for a lesser ham.

Heh heh...durn near half of all US hams are "lesser" in that
case! ["lesser" in the eyes of the coded Elite...:-)]

Why...why...why one HAS to "get on the air" and "work" someone
by morsemanship! "Rite of passage" or some other BS myth...

One just "cannot" be a "ham" without "working someone with CW!"

:-)

"Hams of a Lesser God."

Obviously not of the Ruling Elite of the Acolytes of Hiram... :-)


could be a boon for ham radio
itself. After the FCC decision, demand for information
about radio licenses surged from about 200 in a typical weekend to about
500, according to the American Radio Relay League, an
organization representing ham radio operators.
......
"It's part of the dumbing down of America," said Nancy Kott, editor of World
Radio magazine

I suspect that Nancy is actually that grouchy Sterba, Kurt N.

I dunno. Kurt might be anybody.

Kurt Weil? Sterba, Kurtain? :-)

[author-composer of musical "Cabaret" and a famous old wire
antenna of large dimensions once used by the pros...]

A cranky (OM) who writes antenna books at World Radio.

Heh, heh, riiiight...he would be over 100 years then, no wonder
he would be cranky.


and a field representative for the
Centers for Disease of Control and Prevention in Metamora, Michigan.

I thought the CDC was in Atlanta and World Radio was in 6-land?

You're right.

Gosh, I thought "CDC" stood for Control Data Corporation...

Isn't Control Data defunct?

Only the Logo. With the corporations purchasing other corporations
in the electronics industry (as a whole), it has been difficult
keeping up with the new names in three decades. [it's been worse
in the microwave portion of the industry...]

However, hams who get their ONLY 'radio news' from ARRL wouldn't
know about such things. shrug


"We live in a society today that wants something for nothing."

The written exams are "nothing?"

That's exactly right. That's why it was so important to keep the Morse
Code exam, because the written exams are nothing.

Riiiiight...the ultimate, the ne plus ultra of "radio
operating" is sending-receiving morse code. :-)

Like ANY other radio service ever uses it nowadays for
communications...guffaw

Well, well, well....

Among the stodgy old morsemen, the mythos of morse is still
alive.


A female in a mostly male radio world, Kott is one of about 660,000 licensed
ham operators in the United States

Another "first."

Well, I dunno.

Nancy Kott is caught up in a "Nancy Kause" of Doing Something
To Preserve The Glory and Honor of Morsemanship."

A Priestess in the Church of St. Hiram?

A Sister, a Nun of the Above...[of the Code Cloister]

That "Kause" is doomed...

Maybe not doomed...

Maybe she's a Sara Jane Moore wannabe? A Lynette Frome wanabe?

[attempted assassins of Gerald Ford...]


and is the U.S.
leader of Fists CW Club, an organization that calls itself the International
Morse Preservation Society.

That would make it "IMPS." I thought it called itself "FISTS."

I guess no one wants to be called an "Imps."

"FISTS" carries the emotional baggage of Virility, Strength,
Force, and is very Manly. :-)

Hmmmm? I guess "IMPS" is "OUT."

Absolutely. In US ham radio all must be white male HETEROsexuals
who love honor and obey morse code.


Hmmm...that alone makes one wonder about Ms. Kott's motivation?

[now watch the response, Brian, Jimmie Noserve will be in here
with a "you're Wrong" and describe the origin of "FISTS" and
other assorted glories of morsemanship...as if He is the only
"smart" one and all no-coders are imbeciles]

Yep. and FISTicuffS was there in WWII helping the effort.

Riiiight...except that IN WWII the bulk of military messaging
was done by TTY, not by manual morse code.

Jimmie Noserve no wanna say that but it was true...but then
Jimmie never ever did serve in any US military of any kind,
not even in the government.


... So true, Ms. Kott...

I'm not so easily convinced, Stefan.

Maybe Stefan has some other words of wisdom?

Maybe that given name is a contraction of **** that hit the fan?

One can only wonder.

Maybe this Stefan is really Mikey Deignan trying to get some new
Club Calls to replace the ones taken away from him? :-)

The RF Commandos are missing in action, but they still have a Club Call
to come back to if they ever have another meeting.

Hot damn! "RF Commandos!" Force, strength, virility coming
out of every pore, J-38s at high port, conquering pileups at
every cue-so!


[the "KH6" is now a resident of Bedford, MA...no longer having a
PO box in Hawaii courtesy of Jeff Herman]

People who glom up exotic callsigns having never been to the
location...

"Book 'em, Danno!" :-)

Hmmm...whatever happened to Eric June, the self-appointed
president and director of "Know Code International?" :-)



I forgot all about him. And the other guy - Val Germann...

Google never forgets. Last night I did a quick copy of the
All-Time Posters on RRAP and here is what they had for 28
Dec 06:

K4YZ 11,945 [warrior of Seven Hostile Actions]
Cecil Moore 11,892
James Miccolis 8,836
Dick Carroll 7,091 [SK]
-me- 6,191
Eric June 5,434
David Heil 5,358
Ed Hare 5,253
Mark Morgan 4,633
James Rosenthal 4,286

Grand total of just the Top Ten: 73,919 posts!

Cecil has been in the newsgroup perhaps the longest, finally got
tired of it and went over to rec.radio.amateur.antenna. June,
Hare, and Rosenthal haven't been here for at least two years.
Major Dud finally grabbed more archive space than Cecil (which
was expected) even though he mainly talks about HIMSELF and his
mighty "military" service while personally insulting everyone
who dares disagree with him. :-)

73,

"merlin-7" wrote:

Just one note...I passed my code test and have not used it since. I am not
saying that I will never use it. I just have not had any interest in it
yet.
Does it make me a better ham haveing passed code?

I wouldn't say it makes you a better ham for having passed the code test.

I would say it makes you a better ham because you are now familiar with
another operating mode commonly in use in the amateur radio service.

Likewise, I would make the same statement -- it makes you a better ham --
regardless of the mode of operation -- CW, SSB, FM, AM -- you name it.

Why? As an amateur, experience with ANY mode of operation, IMO, makes you a
"better" ham.

73
KH6HZ

wrote:

Cecil has been in the newsgroup perhaps the longest, finally got
tired of it and went over to rec.radio.amateur.antenna. June,
Hare, and Rosenthal haven't been here for at least two years.
Major Dud finally grabbed more archive space than Cecil (which
was expected) even though he mainly talks about HIMSELF and his
mighty "military" service while personally insulting everyone
who dares disagree with him. :-)

73,



Sometimes I feel as though I should apologize for all hams, then I think
of Cecil and realize there may be others I don't have to be ashamed for
.... thanks for reminding me.

JS

wrote:
Cecil has been in the newsgroup perhaps the longest, finally got
tired of it and went over to rec.radio.amateur.antenna.

Actually, I was on both rrap and rraa. My
attitude has always been of a Libertarian
flavor - freedom of choice of modes in a
free market of modes.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Cecil Moore wrote:
wrote:
Cecil has been in the newsgroup perhaps the longest, finally got
tired of it and went over to rec.radio.amateur.antenna.

Actually, I was on both rrap and rraa. My
attitude has always been of a Libertarian
flavor - freedom of choice of modes in a
free market of modes.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Soon, Cecil, soon.