wrote:
I recall Cecil succumbing to their jeers to join them on CW. Poor
******* so wanted to prove himself to them that he operated CW with a
thunderstorm overhead and lightning alqds. After such heroics, they
still don't like his ideas and ostracize him.

CW is my favorite mode and I enjoy 10 wpm QSO's.
GMC is my favorite pickup. Vanilla Bean is my
favorite ice cream. Texas is my favorite state.
I just don't believe in forcing my favorite mode
on anyone else any more than I believe in forcing
my favorite pickup, my favorite ice cream, and
my favorite state on anyone else. What is wrong
with live and let live?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Dan wrote:
...
If the CDC did that, people would be dying like flies from what are NOW
preventable diseases like Measles, Cholera, typhoid , typhus, Yellow Fever,
etc.And surgery would be done without anaesthesia.
...
Dan AI8O



Dan:

All your points are interesting. Aids is a preventable disease, I
wonder if someone has inform Ms. Kott?

Regards,
JS

Cecil Moore wrote:
wrote:
I recall Cecil succumbing to their jeers to join them on CW. Poor
******* so wanted to prove himself to them that he operated CW with a
thunderstorm overhead and lightning alqds. After such heroics, they
still don't like his ideas and ostracize him.

CW is my favorite mode and I enjoy 10 wpm QSO's.
GMC is my favorite pickup. Vanilla Bean is my
favorite ice cream. Texas is my favorite state.
I just don't believe in forcing my favorite mode
on anyone else any more than I believe in forcing
my favorite pickup, my favorite ice cream, and
my favorite state on anyone else. What is wrong
with live and let live?

Cecil:

Seeing as you passed the CW element--I see no problem in you:
1) Driving a GMC.
2) Eating Vanilla Bean Ice Cream.
3) Living in Texas.

However, you did right with checking with us first ... I can only hope
you continue to do so in the future.

chuckle
JS

wrote in message

Roger that, Cecil. :-) Way to go...FREEDOM of choice and not
coerced, brainwashed, or anything else by some old men in
Newington. :-)

Len, you used to argue that ham radio would benefit if only the FCC would
let the brilliant RF scientists, engineers and physicists, who only lacked
the ability or desire to learn Morse code, to enter the service. You also
used to argue that the code was a roadblock to younger people entering the
hobby. On the surface, these seemed to be some pretty noble ideals upon
which to take the high road. This is all on the record.

But now it becomes clear that, with the Morse requirement indeed no longer a
low tech obstacle to these high potential contributors, the promises of
these positive outcomes have been pretty much toned down...by about 100%.
Maybe they will happen but probably (I'm sure you agree) things will pretty
much stay the same, other than the rise of another marginal increase in the
lid factor similar towhat we saw on 75m with the advent of the 5wpm
generals.

Now you say it was all only for freedom of choice.

When did your flip turn into a flop? :-))

From: on Sat, Dec 30 2006 3:42 am

wrote:
wrote:

(snip of wordy rant)

AS IF Miccolis is 'never' wordy... :-)


Last night I did a quick copy of the
All-Time Posters on RRAP and here is what they had for 28
Dec 06:

-me- 6,191

No, Len, that number is way too low.

Google provided it. I just copied the numbers that Google
put up of the TOP TEN. shrug

Miccolis says the Top Ten listing is "wrong." That's a NEW
territory of criticsm for him! :-)

The WORST I can be accused of is being incomplete. :-)

Miccolis cribs license class totals from the AH0A website
and implies they are "his" since he NEVER shows the origin
of his data. shrug


If your ability to count *your own postings* results in a number that
is so inaccurate, why should anyone trust your counts of other things?

If I had "counted my own postings" I would have done so and
listed all my 'handles' (screennames). :-)

If your ability to represent your own history of posting to rrap is so
error-filled, why should anyone trust your recounting of other history?

Jim, would you mind tallying up all of your postings under all of your
screen names?

Thanks a bunch.

Brian, you're asking the impossible! :-)

"Quitefine" will never admit it. Nun of the Above is NEVER wrong!

Happy New Year,

wrote:
From: on Sat, Dec 30 2006 3:42 am
wrote:
wrote:

Last night I did a quick copy of the
All-Time Posters on RRAP and here is what they had for 28
Dec 06:

-me- 6,191

No, Len, that number is way too low.

Google provided it. I just copied the numbers that Google
put up of the TOP TEN. shrug

It's inaccurate. You did not interrogate Google correctly, and so the
number you gave is much lower than the actual number.

If you can't be accurate, why should anyone trust you?

says the Top Ten listing is "wrong."

Nope.

I'm saying *you* are giving a number that is very inaccurate. 6,191 is
a lot less than 10,993.

That's a NEW
territory of criticsm for him! :-)

"Criticsm"?

The WORST I can be accused of is being incomplete. :-)

In error is more like it.

cribs license class totals from the AH0A website
and implies they are "his" since he NEVER shows the origin
of his data. shrug

No, that is not correct.

The totals I post every two weeks do not come from AH0A.

I have posted my source here. You are either too lazy or too
incompetent to find it ;-)

If your ability to count *your own postings* results in a number that
is so inaccurate, why should anyone trust your counts of other things?

If I had "counted my own postings" I would have done so and
listed all my 'handles' (screennames). :-)

But you didn't. That means you intentionally posted a number that was
too low.

Some would say you tried to deceive us.

If your ability to represent your own history of posting to rrap is so
error-filled, why should anyone trust your recounting of other history?

Jim, would you mind tallying up all of your postings under all of your
screen names?

Thanks a bunch.

Brian, you're asking the impossible! :-)

Not impossible at all. Just unlikely.

From: John Smith I on Sat, Dec 30 2006 9:43 am

wrote:
...
I recall Cecil succumbing to their jeers to join them on CW. Poor
******* so wanted to prove himself to them that he operated CW with a
thunderstorm overhead and lightning alqds. After such heroics, they
still don't like his ideas and ostracize him.
...

Len, Len, Len ...

There are many here whose time has come and gone. They have only their
retirement check, SSI, time and antique radio gear.

Seeing your following post explaining the mixup in attributes,
I'll toss a thing or two in here in response... :-)

The on-air get-together of morsemen was reported in here in
some detail and Cecil really did do his thunderstorm thing.
Considering Cecil's method of antenna matching...open-wire
feedline stubs switched in by knife switches...it is one
heckuva dangerous exercise to peak his wire antenna response!

I admire Cecil Moore for his free-thinking ability...plus
his nifty Harley-Davidson motorcycle (called a "hog" among
motor afficionados). :-) He moved back to Texas to take
care of his ailing parents, something I had in common with
him and don't wish that on anyone.

---

Not all of the correspondents in here are in retirement!
Most of the adamant morsemen seem to be, though, but
Jimmie Noserve "is not." Since only a select few of his
"inner circle" of (morsemen) friends seem to know what
he does and where so "N2EY" isn't yet retired...but he
sounds like he is in his 80s or 90s, though.

The Prussian pedant ("K8MN") has his government pension
checks and as a retiree of the federal government it would
probably not be from the SS. He only ACTS like he was in
the SS. :-)

You think anyone, but another one, can get along with any one of them?

I don't think a chronological contemporary can "get along"
with them unless they are part of the wish-fulfillment
tribe called morsemen. They are SET in their ways,
unable to adapt, yet all want to be "leaders" or, at the
very least, "respected" for their unfailing devotion to
old, old standards and practices in a radio hobby.

Most won't acknowledge that amateur radio IS a hobby...
those are off into their own wish-fulfillment dreams of
honor, glory, majesty, and "service to their country" by
having that particular hobby. Sheesh.

Now there's nothing at all wrong with having a fascinating
hobby. Amateur radio IS a fascinating hobby. It can be
fun, it can be a recreation. Some folk in here let it
dominate their life and THAT gets them off into some
fantasies of their own. Not a good thing. For them or
the ones they are around. Especially so if their whole
being in the hobby are dominated by a self-styled few
leaders up in the NE USA. The STRICT ordering of
jargon and protocol and 'We' do things 'differently'
(as in the standards of over a half century ago) gets a
bit annoying to technology liberals. Radio itself is
only 110 years old and is constantly changing. To be
stuck in the beginning middle of that technology lifespan
(never to change) seems an absurd ultra-conservative
fixation with old technology.

It's worse with the fixation towards on-off keyed CW.
Morse code was first used in 1844...BEFORE radio
existed as a communications medium. Why in hell a 162-
year-old mode "must" be a "qualifier" for an amateur
radio license is ludicrous. That "need" to preserve a
truly archaic mode HAS to be the result of intense
mental conditioning (commonly called brainwashing) by
the you-know-who organization (the main 'news' source
for USA amateur radio).

On the other hand, the strict adherence to standards and
protocol of olden times MAY be satisfactory for all those
who have difficulty with adaptation to newer technology.
That adherence can be a comfort, a psychological survival
factor perhaps, but it doesn't alleviate their inability
to adapt. Trying to get everyone else to conform to THEIR
beloved adherence to old standards and practices is very,
very wrong and also very selfish of them.

LA

John Smith I wrote:
wrote:
...
I recall Cecil succumbing to their jeers to join them on CW. Poor
******* so wanted to prove himself to them that he operated CW with a
thunderstorm overhead and lightning alqds. After such heroics, they
still don't like his ideas and ostracize him.
...

Len, Len, Len ...

There are many here whose time has come and gone. They have only their
retirement check, SSI, time and antique radio gear.

You think anyone, but another one, can get along with any one of them?

Warmest regards,
JS

Sure. Anything you say, Dave.

Cecil Moore wrote:
wrote:
I recall Cecil succumbing to their jeers to join them on CW. Poor
******* so wanted to prove himself to them that he operated CW with a
thunderstorm overhead and lightning alqds. After such heroics, they
still don't like his ideas and ostracize him.

CW is my favorite mode and I enjoy 10 wpm QSO's.
GMC is my favorite pickup. Vanilla Bean is my
favorite ice cream. Texas is my favorite state.
I just don't believe in forcing my favorite mode
on anyone else any more than I believe in forcing
my favorite pickup, my favorite ice cream, and
my favorite state on anyone else. What is wrong
with live and let live?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

I'm with you, Cecil. Live and let live.

wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:

(snip of wordy rant)

Google never forgets.

Remember that...

Last night I did a quick copy of the
All-Time Posters on RRAP and here is what they had for 28
Dec 06:

-me- 6,191

No, Len, that number is way too low.

According to Google, your postings to rrap since 1997 are no less than:

846 as
1230 as
10 as
39 as
1204 as
6210 as
1454 as

That's a grand total of no less than 10,993 postings to rrap, under no
less than seven different screen names, all by you. There may be more -
10,993 is a minimum number.

Google never forgets.

If your ability to count *your own postings* results in a number that
is so inaccurate, why should anyone trust your counts of other things?

If your ability to represent your own history of posting to rrap is so
error-filled, why should anyone trust your recounting of other history?

Jim, would you mind tallying up all of your postings under all of your
screen names?

Whatever would be the point of that?

Here are just *some* of yours, Brian Burke:

1577 as
2863 as
2973 as
2211 as

These are just your posts to rrap, and just the ones using those four
screen names. There are probably many more under other names.

Total comes to 9,624.

Google never forgets.

There are probably other screen names

Nope, I think I had one with my call. I switched to an "anon" after
too much unwarranted attention was being paid to where my residence was
by some of the bad elements on RRAP. Then Hans asked me to give up
Billy, and I did. I selected a screen name with "ham" in the title
just for fun.

Now, Jim, would you mind tallying up all of your postings under all of
your screen names?

Betcha can't.