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SAN FRANCISCO: It may be the ultimate SOS.

Morse Code is in distress.
.......
.......
While the decision had been expected, some ham radio operators fear that
their exclusive club has been opened to the unwashed masses
- and that the very survival of Morse Code is in question.
.......
The demise of the Morse requirement, however, could be a boon for ham radio
itself. After the FCC decision, demand for information
about radio licenses surged from about 200 in a typical weekend to about
500, according to the American Radio Relay League, an
organization representing ham radio operators.
.......
"It's part of the dumbing down of America," said Nancy Kott, editor of World
Radio magazine and a field representative for the
Centers for Disease of Control and Prevention in Metamora, Michigan. "We
live in a society today that wants something for nothing."

A female in a mostly male radio world, Kott is one of about 660,000 licensed
ham operators in the United States and is the U.S.
leader of Fists CW Club, an organization that calls itself the International
Morse Preservation Society.

... So true, Ms. Kott...


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Stefan Wolfe wrote:
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... So true, Ms. Kott...



Let's demand Ms. Kott learn to do calligraphy, make handmade parchment
and operate an old franklin press, before we license her to be a mag's
editor!

Then let's see how she feels about "dumbing down."

JS
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Stefan Wolfe wrote:


The demise of the Morse requirement, however, could be a boon for ham radio
itself. After the FCC decision, demand for information
about radio licenses surged from about 200 in a typical weekend to about
500, according to the American Radio Relay League, an
organization representing ham radio operators.
......
"It's part of the dumbing down of America," said Nancy Kott, editor of World
Radio magazine


In the R&O, the FCC observed that there was no connection between morse
code knowledge and compliance with the rules. The old 14.313 disaster
was back in the days of 13 WPM and above coded hams. And VHF didn't
turn into a CB mess since no code technician licenses started. And HF
didn't get worse with 5WPM generals and extras. So as far as the FCC is
concerned, they decided that there was no regulatory point in keeping
element 1 in the tests. And the FCC isn't in the business of handing
out merit badges. The whole point in requiring license testing is to be
sure that people are at least aware of the responsibilities involved
with transmitting RF into the radio spectra, that we do it in such a way
that doesn't trash the spectrum for other users, ham and others. We
then get permission to build, modify and so on transmitting equipment if
we want to. CBers or FRSers are not supposed to do that.

As for newbies, virtually all new hams want to be accepted into our
world, and will learn and adjust their operating habits as needed to be
accepted. This has been true since day one, and aside from a few fools
saying things like "No kids, no lids, and no space cadets" everyone
knows what it was like to be a newbie.
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but she clearly lacks the power to speack for the CDC


So? For the last 20 years or so, it's been understood that no user
speaks for their ISP, be it a subscription service or their company.
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robert casey wrote:
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but she clearly lacks the power to speack for the CDC


So? For the last 20 years or so, it's been understood that no user
speaks for their ISP, be it a subscription service or their company.


Huh? What does an isp user have to do with the CDC (Center for Disease
Control)

JS


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"It's part of the dumbing down of America," said Nancy Kott, editor of
World

I wonder if ol Nancy got her ticket back when everyone made their own
equipment at
home (the start of dumbing down of America must have been when hams
started to by
radios from the radio store).Or did she get her ticket back when you
had to draw circuits
as part of the test.That not drawing circuits must have been the real
beginning of dumbing down.What a brain stem.
kc9irr

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My 2 cents on this....
Code has been on it's way out for a long time. With all the new modes it is
hard to require code and not the others.
Being a new ham myself, I found the 5wpm easy, to tell the truth 5wpm is
harder than 15wpm to me. Sometimes you can go too slow...
One thing that I have a problem with in the general written test is the
lack of proper operating procedures. I had no Elmer's for HF so the only way
I learned was by listening and making a few embarrassing mistakes that I was
corrected on with no lack of teasing. I wont say what was said but lets say
there is a wide gap between 2 meters and HF.

BTW I can repair my TS-400s and I run all my rigs off of solar power and
battery storage. I am not an idiot but have found that the more I learn
about ham radio, the more questions I have.
I just wish that there were more people out there like all of you, that
takes the time to help out the newbie's like me. I am a 45 year old newbie.
One more note..I was able to help out the EOC in Gulfport Mississippi,
after hurricane Katrina shortly after getting my technicians license. I was
down there for work and donated my spare 2m rig. So I guess I am proof that
even a newbie can help out when it counts.
Joe
KI4ILB
"robert casey" wrote in message
nk.net...
Stefan Wolfe wrote:


The demise of the Morse requirement, however, could be a boon for ham

radio
itself. After the FCC decision, demand for information
about radio licenses surged from about 200 in a typical weekend to about
500, according to the American Radio Relay League, an
organization representing ham radio operators.
......
"It's part of the dumbing down of America," said Nancy Kott, editor of

World
Radio magazine


In the R&O, the FCC observed that there was no connection between morse
code knowledge and compliance with the rules. The old 14.313 disaster
was back in the days of 13 WPM and above coded hams. And VHF didn't
turn into a CB mess since no code technician licenses started. And HF
didn't get worse with 5WPM generals and extras. So as far as the FCC is
concerned, they decided that there was no regulatory point in keeping
element 1 in the tests. And the FCC isn't in the business of handing
out merit badges. The whole point in requiring license testing is to be
sure that people are at least aware of the responsibilities involved
with transmitting RF into the radio spectra, that we do it in such a way
that doesn't trash the spectrum for other users, ham and others. We
then get permission to build, modify and so on transmitting equipment if
we want to. CBers or FRSers are not supposed to do that.

As for newbies, virtually all new hams want to be accepted into our
world, and will learn and adjust their operating habits as needed to be
accepted. This has been true since day one, and aside from a few fools
saying things like "No kids, no lids, and no space cadets" everyone
knows what it was like to be a newbie.



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merlin-7 wrote:
My 2 cents on this....
Code has been on it's way out for a long time. With all the new modes it is
hard to require code and not the others.
Being a new ham myself, I found the 5wpm easy, to tell the truth 5wpm is
harder than 15wpm to me. Sometimes you can go too slow...
...


First you only hear dit and dahs. Then whole letters. Then whole words ...

Regards,
JS
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Odd thing that happend in the uk after code was dropped...code useage went
up...
Joe

"Stefan Wolfe" wrote in message
...
SAN FRANCISCO: It may be the ultimate SOS.

Morse Code is in distress.
......
......
While the decision had been expected, some ham radio operators fear that
their exclusive club has been opened to the unwashed masses
- and that the very survival of Morse Code is in question.
......
The demise of the Morse requirement, however, could be a boon for ham

radio
itself. After the FCC decision, demand for information
about radio licenses surged from about 200 in a typical weekend to about
500, according to the American Radio Relay League, an
organization representing ham radio operators.
......
"It's part of the dumbing down of America," said Nancy Kott, editor of

World
Radio magazine and a field representative for the
Centers for Disease of Control and Prevention in Metamora, Michigan. "We
live in a society today that wants something for nothing."

A female in a mostly male radio world, Kott is one of about 660,000

licensed
ham operators in the United States and is the U.S.
leader of Fists CW Club, an organization that calls itself the

International
Morse Preservation Society.

... So true, Ms. Kott...




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SAN FRANCISCO: It may be the ultimate SOS.

Morse Code is in distress.
......
......
While the decision had been expected, some ham radio operators fear that
their exclusive club has been opened to the unwashed masses
- and that the very survival of Morse Code is in question.
......
The demise of the Morse requirement, however,


There has never been any "Morse Requirement." No particular mode is
mandated.

could be a boon for ham radio
itself. After the FCC decision, demand for information
about radio licenses surged from about 200 in a typical weekend to about
500, according to the American Radio Relay League, an
organization representing ham radio operators.
......
"It's part of the dumbing down of America," said Nancy Kott, editor of World
Radio magazine


I suspect that Nancy is actually that grouchy Sterba, Kurt N.

and a field representative for the
Centers for Disease of Control and Prevention in Metamora, Michigan.


I thought the CDC was in Atlanta and World Radio was in 6-land?

"We live in a society today that wants something for nothing."


The written exams are "nothing?"

A female in a mostly male radio world, Kott is one of about 660,000 licensed
ham operators in the United States


Another "first."

and is the U.S.
leader of Fists CW Club, an organization that calls itself the International
Morse Preservation Society.


That would make it "IMPS." I thought it called itself "FISTS."


... So true, Ms. Kott...


I'm not so easily convinced, Stefan.

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