On 19 Feb, 13:52, "art" wrote:
On 19 Feb, 13:27, "KC4UAI" wrote:

On Feb 19, 2:08 pm, John Smith I wrote:

... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.

Yes, but they don't change direction.. The relationship between a
traveling electric field and associated magnetic field are still
related by a vector cross product that does not change no matter where
you are on the earth's surface or in space, (Einstein and Hawking's
black hole theories aside.) This means that a beam of electrons will
be deflected exactly the same way by the same magnetic field no matter
where you are and your TV will work the same way at the north pole,
Amundsen-Scott Station and everywhere in between.

Oh my !! We are but one little part of the Universe all of which is
in equilibrium with each other. If everything turned the same way I
suspect you would fly off your handle as equilibrium would be lost
Don't tempt fate or Harvard will take their diploma back
Art

On 19 Feb, 13:52, "art" wrote:
On 19 Feb, 13:27, "KC4UAI" wrote:

On Feb 19, 2:08 pm, John Smith I wrote:

... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.

Yes, but they don't change direction.. The relationship between a
traveling electric field and associated magnetic field are still
related by a vector cross product that does not change no matter where
you are on the earth's surface or in space, (Einstein and Hawking's
black hole theories aside.) This means that a beam of electrons will
be deflected exactly the same way by the same magnetic field no matter
where you are and your TV will work the same way at the north pole,
Amundsen-Scott Station and everywhere in between.

Oh my !! We are but one little part of the Universe all of which is
in equilibrium with each other. If everything turned the same way I
suspect you would fly off your handle as equilibrium would be lost
Don't tempt fate or Harvard will take their diploma back
Art

If an Aussi stepped in some deep mud and sank thru all the way
to the U.S his feet would come out first and you want him to
demonstrate the right hand rule while standing on his head !!!!
Art

KC4UAI wrote:
On Feb 19, 2:08 pm, John Smith I wrote:

... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.


Yes, but they don't change direction.. The relationship between a
traveling electric field and associated magnetic field are still
related by a vector cross product that does not change no matter where
you are on the earth's surface or in space, (Einstein and Hawking's
black hole theories aside.) This means that a beam of electrons will
be deflected exactly the same way by the same magnetic field no matter
where you are and your TV will work the same way at the north pole,
Amundsen-Scott Station and everywhere in between.



Oxygen molecules are ever slightly magnetic ... one-third of waters
composition is oxygen molecules.

When you pull the plug in your sink, in the northern hemisphere the
"whirlpool" which forms spins in one direction, in the southern
hemisphere the opposite direction (this computed on an average, or,
force/contrivance can be applied to change the direction of normal spin.)

I know of NO ONE who claims to know FOR CERTAIN, EXACTLY why, this
happens or is able to offer conclusive proof ... to say more would only
be guessing. To say the previous in any other manner would suggest more
is known than actually is ... that is simply all which IS "known."

One can extrapolate upon the above and venture guesses/theories, caution
should be used when doing so.

JS

"art" wrote in message
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How does the Coreolis force differ from radiation "curl" and how does
a tv set made in the northern hemasphere compare in Australia
(southern hemisphere) with an Australian TV set ?


radiation doesn't curl, fields do, and coreolis force is ficticious, you can
counteract it by placing your canoe paddles at right angles to the direction
of motion as you circle a whirlpool in your boat. as for tv's, everyone
knows that you have to reverse the magnitization on tv's when you cross the
equator, if you don't all the colors come out wrong and the pictures are all
upside down.

"Dave" wrote in news:zEpCh.5004$lo1.4362@trndny05:

for tv's, everyone knows that you have to reverse the magnitization on
tv's when you cross the equator, if you don't all the colors come out
wrong and the pictures are all upside down.

You can't rick Art like that, he will be well aware that we in the southern
hemisphere are upside down relative to you guys, so compensating for the
effect you describe.

Owen

John Smith I wrote:
KC4UAI wrote:
On Feb 19, 2:08 pm, John Smith I wrote:

... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.


Yes, but they don't change direction.. The relationship between a
traveling electric field and associated magnetic field are still
related by a vector cross product that does not change no matter where
you are on the earth's surface or in space, (Einstein and Hawking's
black hole theories aside.) This means that a beam of electrons will
be deflected exactly the same way by the same magnetic field no matter
where you are and your TV will work the same way at the north pole,
Amundsen-Scott Station and everywhere in between.



Oxygen molecules are ever slightly magnetic ... one-third of waters
composition is oxygen molecules.

Irrelevant.

When you pull the plug in your sink, in the northern hemisphere the
"whirlpool" which forms spins in one direction, in the southern
hemisphere the opposite direction (this computed on an average, or,
force/contrivance can be applied to change the direction of normal spin.)

For real, normal, manufactured sinks, toilets, and bathtubs, this is not true.

I know of NO ONE who claims to know FOR CERTAIN, EXACTLY why, this
happens or is able to offer conclusive proof ... to say more would only
be guessing. To say the previous in any other manner would suggest more
is known than actually is ... that is simply all which IS "known."

In a perfectly smooth, level, and symetrical sink filled with absolutely
still water, it will always go the same way and this is trivially explained
by the corriolis effect.

For real world sinks, the deviations from perfect smoothness, levelness, and
symmetry overpowers the corriolis effect and the water goes which ever
way dominates from the imperfections.

One can extrapolate upon the above and venture guesses/theories, caution
should be used when doing so.

Or one could get an education in basic physics.

The physical world is within the realm of understanding for at least
50% of the population.

I guess you are in the bottom half.

http://www.snopes.com/science/coriolis.asp
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc...9/phy99107.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis_effect

--
Jim Pennino

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John Smith I wrote:
art wrote:
How does the Coreolis force differ from radiation "curl" and how does
a tv set made in the northern hemasphere compare in Australia
(southern hemisphere) with an Australian TV set ?


In the NORTHERN HEMISPHERE...
The LAND moves COUNTERCLOCKWISE around the North Pole.
Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone.
Air flows CLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone.

In the SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE...
The LAND moves CLOCKWISE around the South Pole.
Air flows CLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone.
Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone.

... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.

I know of no complete studies which have reached any conclusive ends in
the directions you seem to suggest. Most likely, not enough is known yet.

This has been understood by the educated world since about 1778 when
Laplace published his tidal equations, or 1835 when Gaspard-Gustave Coriolis
published.

Your education seems to be a bit behind the times.

--
Jim Pennino

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You missed the point, as usual. Since with what I presented, and the
way I presented it, one would have been required to have digested the
information and have a basic understanding of known physic forces.

You waste my time. You only serve to waste the time of anyone of
interest here. Are there not some children around your neighborhood you
could amuse and be amused by, and thereby free the adults to other
pursuits.

As long as you hang around sucking air for no purpose, you may as well
make yourself useful.

Come on, be a good bloke for a change ...

JS

wrote:
John Smith I wrote:
art wrote:
How does the Coreolis force differ from radiation "curl" and how does
a tv set made in the northern hemasphere compare in Australia
(southern hemisphere) with an Australian TV set ?


In the NORTHERN HEMISPHERE...
The LAND moves COUNTERCLOCKWISE around the North Pole.
Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone.
Air flows CLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone.

In the SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE...
The LAND moves CLOCKWISE around the South Pole.
Air flows CLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone.
Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone.

... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.

I know of no complete studies which have reached any conclusive ends in
the directions you seem to suggest. Most likely, not enough is known yet.

This has been understood by the educated world since about 1778 when
Laplace published his tidal equations, or 1835 when Gaspard-Gustave Coriolis
published.

Your education seems to be a bit behind the times.


It is quite obvious the "Coriolis Effect" has NOTHING to do with water
taking its' whirlpool course down the drain in regards to its' current
hemisphere ... but you grow predictable. I figured you would lack the
intelligence to see this obvious fact.

You probably would amuse a high school physics lab to no end, ever try
dressing up in a clowns suit and visiting one?

JS

Jimmie D wrote:

...
I t doesnt happen, water swirling down the drain in different directionn
because you are in the southern or northern hemisphere is a myth.



Obviously you have a sink, you can prove it correct.

And, indeed, it is correct. Has to do with the oxygen molecules slight
magnetic force in interaction with the appropriate pole of the earth.

My goodness. Who would have guessed so many could benefit from a simple
high school physics course, and then an introduction to antennas?

JS