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On Feb 19, 2:08 pm, John Smith I wrote:

... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.


Yes, but they don't change direction.. The relationship between a
traveling electric field and associated magnetic field are still
related by a vector cross product that does not change no matter where
you are on the earth's surface or in space, (Einstein and Hawking's
black hole theories aside.) This means that a beam of electrons will
be deflected exactly the same way by the same magnetic field no matter
where you are and your TV will work the same way at the north pole,
Amundsen-Scott Station and everywhere in between.



Oxygen molecules are ever slightly magnetic ... one-third of waters
composition is oxygen molecules.

When you pull the plug in your sink, in the northern hemisphere the
"whirlpool" which forms spins in one direction, in the southern hemisphere
the opposite direction (this computed on an average, or, force/contrivance
can be applied to change the direction of normal spin.)

I know of NO ONE who claims to know FOR CERTAIN, EXACTLY why, this happens
or is able to offer conclusive proof ... to say more would only be
guessing. To say the previous in any other manner would suggest more is
known than actually is ... that is simply all which IS "known."

One can extrapolate upon the above and venture guesses/theories, caution
should be used when doing so.

JS


I t doesnt happen, water swirling down the drain in different directionn
because you are in the southern or northern hemisphere is a myth.


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On 19 Feb, 15:21, Owen Duffy wrote:
"Dave" wrote innews:zEpCh.5004$lo1.4362@trndny05:

for tv's, everyone knows that you have to reverse the magnitization on
tv's when you cross the equator, if you don't all the colors come out
wrong and the pictures are all upside down.


You can't rick Art like that, he will be well aware that we in the southern
hemisphere are upside down relative to you guys, so compensating for the
effect you describe.

Owen


Quit it Owen, I'm sitting in the stands watching the play go
backwards and forwards and giggling all the time. It is like asking
the capital of Kentucky, is it louavle or Louyvill and the longer it
goes on the funnier it will be so please stay quiet
Thanks

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I did. Actually, I got a masters in it. In the words of one of my more
brilliant professors, "You suck hind tit".

Jim


Or one could get an education in basic physics.



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John Smith I wrote:
wrote:
John Smith I wrote:
art wrote:
How does the Coreolis force differ from radiation "curl" and how does
a tv set made in the northern hemasphere compare in Australia
(southern hemisphere) with an Australian TV set ?


In the NORTHERN HEMISPHERE...
The LAND moves COUNTERCLOCKWISE around the North Pole.
Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone.
Air flows CLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone.


In the SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE...
The LAND moves CLOCKWISE around the South Pole.
Air flows CLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone.
Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone.


... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.


I know of no complete studies which have reached any conclusive ends in
the directions you seem to suggest. Most likely, not enough is known yet.


This has been understood by the educated world since about 1778 when
Laplace published his tidal equations, or 1835 when Gaspard-Gustave Coriolis
published.

Your education seems to be a bit behind the times.


It is quite obvious the "Coriolis Effect" has NOTHING to do with water
taking its' whirlpool course down the drain in regards to its' current
hemisphere ... but you grow predictable. I figured you would lack the
intelligence to see this obvious fact.


Babbling fool, the above was about AIR, not water.

Do you know the difference between air and water?

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Babbling fool, the above was about AIR, not water.

Do you know the difference between air and water?

snip remaining babble


Is it possible you will ever come to know the difference between your
A$$ and a hole in the ground?

Or, even the hole in your head--for that matter ...

JS


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John Smith I wrote:
wrote:
John Smith I wrote:
art wrote:
How does the Coreolis force differ from radiation "curl" and how does
a tv set made in the northern hemasphere compare in Australia
(southern hemisphere) with an Australian TV set ?

In the NORTHERN HEMISPHERE...
The LAND moves COUNTERCLOCKWISE around the North Pole.
Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone.
Air flows CLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone.
In the SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE...
The LAND moves CLOCKWISE around the South Pole.
Air flows CLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone.
Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone.
... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.
I know of no complete studies which have reached any conclusive ends in
the directions you seem to suggest. Most likely, not enough is known yet.
This has been understood by the educated world since about 1778 when
Laplace published his tidal equations, or 1835 when Gaspard-Gustave Coriolis
published.

Your education seems to be a bit behind the times.


It is quite obvious the "Coriolis Effect" has NOTHING to do with water
taking its' whirlpool course down the drain in regards to its' current
hemisphere ... but you grow predictable. I figured you would lack the
intelligence to see this obvious fact.


Babbling fool, the above was about AIR, not water.

Do you know the difference between air and water?



In order to observe the Coriolis effect in draining water, several
extraordinary precautions must be taken. You must have a smooth circular
pan with a precisely centered and very small hole in the center. The pan
is filled with water, and allowed to sit for enough time that all motion
of the water is gone at the onset of the experiment. My source suggests
a week. Then the stopper must be removed from below in a manner that
doesn't disturb the water. (save the obvious) If the flow is small
enough, and no other disturbances occur, after about an hour, a cyclonic
rotation occurs.

For all practical purposes, the effect is only applicable for large and
long lasting fluid motion.

Too bad that, it would be fun to watch water refuse to swirl at all if
we emptied a sink at the equator. 8^)

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -
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Michael Coslo wrote:
wrote:
John Smith I wrote:
wrote:
John Smith I wrote:
art wrote:
How does the Coreolis force differ from radiation "curl" and how does
a tv set made in the northern hemasphere compare in Australia
(southern hemisphere) with an Australian TV set ?

In the NORTHERN HEMISPHERE...
The LAND moves COUNTERCLOCKWISE around the North Pole.
Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone.
Air flows CLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone.
In the SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE...
The LAND moves CLOCKWISE around the South Pole.
Air flows CLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone.
Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone.
... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.
I know of no complete studies which have reached any conclusive
ends in the directions you seem to suggest. Most likely, not
enough is known yet.
This has been understood by the educated world since about 1778 when
Laplace published his tidal equations, or 1835 when Gaspard-Gustave
Coriolis
published.

Your education seems to be a bit behind the times.


It is quite obvious the "Coriolis Effect" has NOTHING to do with
water taking its' whirlpool course down the drain in regards to its'
current hemisphere ... but you grow predictable. I figured you would
lack the intelligence to see this obvious fact.


Babbling fool, the above was about AIR, not water.

Do you know the difference between air and water?



In order to observe the Coriolis effect in draining water, several
extraordinary precautions must be taken. You must have a smooth circular
pan with a precisely centered and very small hole in the center. The pan
is filled with water, and allowed to sit for enough time that all motion
of the water is gone at the onset of the experiment. My source suggests
a week. Then the stopper must be removed from below in a manner that
doesn't disturb the water. (save the obvious) If the flow is small
enough, and no other disturbances occur, after about an hour, a cyclonic
rotation occurs.

For all practical purposes, the effect is only applicable for large
and long lasting fluid motion.

Too bad that, it would be fun to watch water refuse to swirl at all
if we emptied a sink at the equator. 8^)

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -



In a recent email to an acquaintance of mine who lives in Australia I
asked him what the action of draining water was down under. His reply
was that results were mixed with some drains turning counter clockwise
and some drains turning clockwise. Sometimes it was the same drain.

It seems the jury is still out on the subject.

Dave WD9BDZ
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On 20 Feb, 07:26, "David G. Nagel" wrote:
Michael Coslo wrote:
wrote:
John Smith I wrote:
wrote:
John Smith I wrote:
art wrote:
How does the Coreolis force differ from radiation "curl" and how does
a tv set made in the northern hemasphere compare in Australia
(southern hemisphere) with an Australian TV set ?


In the NORTHERN HEMISPHERE...
The LAND moves COUNTERCLOCKWISE around the North Pole.
Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone.
Air flows CLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone.
In the SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE...
The LAND moves CLOCKWISE around the South Pole.
Air flows CLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone.
Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone.
... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.
I know of no complete studies which have reached any conclusive
ends in the directions you seem to suggest. Most likely, not
enough is known yet.
This has been understood by the educated world since about 1778 when
Laplace published his tidal equations, or 1835 when Gaspard-Gustave
Coriolis
published.


Your education seems to be a bit behind the times.


It is quite obvious the "Coriolis Effect" has NOTHING to do with
water taking its' whirlpool course down the drain in regards to its'
current hemisphere ... but you grow predictable. I figured you would
lack the intelligence to see this obvious fact.


Babbling fool, the above was about AIR, not water.


Do you know the difference between air and water?


In order to observe the Coriolis effect in draining water, several
extraordinary precautions must be taken. You must have a smooth circular
pan with a precisely centered and very small hole in the center. The pan
is filled with water, and allowed to sit for enough time that all motion
of the water is gone at the onset of the experiment. My source suggests
a week. Then the stopper must be removed from below in a manner that
doesn't disturb the water. (save the obvious) If the flow is small
enough, and no other disturbances occur, after about an hour, a cyclonic
rotation occurs.


For all practical purposes, the effect is only applicable for large
and long lasting fluid motion.


Too bad that, it would be fun to watch water refuse to swirl at all
if we emptied a sink at the equator. 8^)


- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -


In a recent email to an acquaintance of mine who lives in Australia I
asked him what the action of draining water was down under. His reply
was that results were mixed with some drains turning counter clockwise
and some drains turning clockwise. Sometimes it was the same drain.

It seems the jury is still out on the subject.

Dave WD9BDZ- Hide quoted text -

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Gentlemen, gentlemen calm down
Let us l;ook at how this myth came about

A gentleman obtained a glass container and filled it with water.
To make sure every thing was kosha he placed a school clock over the
container of water and then called his friend down under to
corroborate the experiment. Being a friedly man he descided to place
the clock under the container so the man down under could also see the
clock. He then pulled the plug and watched as the water circled
clockwise and then asked the man down under which way did the water go
and to his surprise the Aussi said counter clockwise!
Now stop this foolishnes and consider what Roy said about Aussi T.V.
He stated that the yoke on the CRT was wound in an opposite way to
T.V.s in the upper hemisphere so why not consider the implications of
that and let the past be seen as water under the bridge
Art

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On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:26:23 -0600, "David G. Nagel"
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It seems the jury is still out on the subject.


Given the correspondence, one juror is holding out for acquittal, and
Madame LeFarge is cackling in the court room.

73's
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Michael Coslo wrote:
wrote:
John Smith I wrote:
wrote:
John Smith I wrote:
art wrote:
How does the Coreolis force differ from radiation "curl" and how does
a tv set made in the northern hemasphere compare in Australia
(southern hemisphere) with an Australian TV set ?

In the NORTHERN HEMISPHERE...
The LAND moves COUNTERCLOCKWISE around the North Pole.
Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone.
Air flows CLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone.
In the SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE...
The LAND moves CLOCKWISE around the South Pole.
Air flows CLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone.
Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone.
... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.
I know of no complete studies which have reached any conclusive ends in
the directions you seem to suggest. Most likely, not enough is known yet.
This has been understood by the educated world since about 1778 when
Laplace published his tidal equations, or 1835 when Gaspard-Gustave Coriolis
published.

Your education seems to be a bit behind the times.


It is quite obvious the "Coriolis Effect" has NOTHING to do with water
taking its' whirlpool course down the drain in regards to its' current
hemisphere ... but you grow predictable. I figured you would lack the
intelligence to see this obvious fact.


Babbling fool, the above was about AIR, not water.

Do you know the difference between air and water?



In order to observe the Coriolis effect in draining water, several
extraordinary precautions must be taken. You must have a smooth circular
pan with a precisely centered and very small hole in the center. The pan
is filled with water, and allowed to sit for enough time that all motion
of the water is gone at the onset of the experiment. My source suggests
a week. Then the stopper must be removed from below in a manner that
doesn't disturb the water. (save the obvious) If the flow is small
enough, and no other disturbances occur, after about an hour, a cyclonic
rotation occurs.


For all practical purposes, the effect is only applicable for large and
long lasting fluid motion.


Too bad that, it would be fun to watch water refuse to swirl at all if
we emptied a sink at the equator. 8^)


It is a matter of scale.

The coriolis effect is weak and directly a function of distance.

Water in a sink is a tiny distance and the effect is miniscule.

On huge things like weather fronts, the coriolis effect is quite obvious.

Firing tables for long range artillery have corrections for the effect.


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