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![]() "John Smith I" wrote in message ... KC4UAI wrote: On Feb 19, 2:08 pm, John Smith I wrote: ... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and objects/properties affected by magnetic properties. Yes, but they don't change direction.. The relationship between a traveling electric field and associated magnetic field are still related by a vector cross product that does not change no matter where you are on the earth's surface or in space, (Einstein and Hawking's black hole theories aside.) This means that a beam of electrons will be deflected exactly the same way by the same magnetic field no matter where you are and your TV will work the same way at the north pole, Amundsen-Scott Station and everywhere in between. Oxygen molecules are ever slightly magnetic ... one-third of waters composition is oxygen molecules. When you pull the plug in your sink, in the northern hemisphere the "whirlpool" which forms spins in one direction, in the southern hemisphere the opposite direction (this computed on an average, or, force/contrivance can be applied to change the direction of normal spin.) I know of NO ONE who claims to know FOR CERTAIN, EXACTLY why, this happens or is able to offer conclusive proof ... to say more would only be guessing. To say the previous in any other manner would suggest more is known than actually is ... that is simply all which IS "known." One can extrapolate upon the above and venture guesses/theories, caution should be used when doing so. JS I t doesnt happen, water swirling down the drain in different directionn because you are in the southern or northern hemisphere is a myth. |
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On 19 Feb, 15:21, Owen Duffy wrote:
"Dave" wrote innews:zEpCh.5004$lo1.4362@trndny05: for tv's, everyone knows that you have to reverse the magnitization on tv's when you cross the equator, if you don't all the colors come out wrong and the pictures are all upside down. You can't rick Art like that, he will be well aware that we in the southern hemisphere are upside down relative to you guys, so compensating for the effect you describe. Owen Quit it Owen, I'm sitting in the stands watching the play go backwards and forwards and giggling all the time. It is like asking the capital of Kentucky, is it louavle or Louyvill and the longer it goes on the funnier it will be so please stay quiet Thanks |
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I did. Actually, I got a masters in it. In the words of one of my more
brilliant professors, "You suck hind tit". Jim Or one could get an education in basic physics. |
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John Smith I wrote: wrote: John Smith I wrote: art wrote: How does the Coreolis force differ from radiation "curl" and how does a tv set made in the northern hemasphere compare in Australia (southern hemisphere) with an Australian TV set ? In the NORTHERN HEMISPHERE... The LAND moves COUNTERCLOCKWISE around the North Pole. Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone. Air flows CLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone. In the SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE... The LAND moves CLOCKWISE around the South Pole. Air flows CLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone. Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone. ... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and objects/properties affected by magnetic properties. I know of no complete studies which have reached any conclusive ends in the directions you seem to suggest. Most likely, not enough is known yet. This has been understood by the educated world since about 1778 when Laplace published his tidal equations, or 1835 when Gaspard-Gustave Coriolis published. Your education seems to be a bit behind the times. It is quite obvious the "Coriolis Effect" has NOTHING to do with water taking its' whirlpool course down the drain in regards to its' current hemisphere ... but you grow predictable. I figured you would lack the intelligence to see this obvious fact. Babbling fool, the above was about AIR, not water. Do you know the difference between air and water? In order to observe the Coriolis effect in draining water, several extraordinary precautions must be taken. You must have a smooth circular pan with a precisely centered and very small hole in the center. The pan is filled with water, and allowed to sit for enough time that all motion of the water is gone at the onset of the experiment. My source suggests a week. Then the stopper must be removed from below in a manner that doesn't disturb the water. (save the obvious) If the flow is small enough, and no other disturbances occur, after about an hour, a cyclonic rotation occurs. For all practical purposes, the effect is only applicable for large and long lasting fluid motion. Too bad that, it would be fun to watch water refuse to swirl at all if we emptied a sink at the equator. 8^) - 73 de Mike KB3EIA - |
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Michael Coslo wrote:
wrote: John Smith I wrote: wrote: John Smith I wrote: art wrote: How does the Coreolis force differ from radiation "curl" and how does a tv set made in the northern hemasphere compare in Australia (southern hemisphere) with an Australian TV set ? In the NORTHERN HEMISPHERE... The LAND moves COUNTERCLOCKWISE around the North Pole. Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone. Air flows CLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone. In the SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE... The LAND moves CLOCKWISE around the South Pole. Air flows CLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone. Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone. ... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and objects/properties affected by magnetic properties. I know of no complete studies which have reached any conclusive ends in the directions you seem to suggest. Most likely, not enough is known yet. This has been understood by the educated world since about 1778 when Laplace published his tidal equations, or 1835 when Gaspard-Gustave Coriolis published. Your education seems to be a bit behind the times. It is quite obvious the "Coriolis Effect" has NOTHING to do with water taking its' whirlpool course down the drain in regards to its' current hemisphere ... but you grow predictable. I figured you would lack the intelligence to see this obvious fact. Babbling fool, the above was about AIR, not water. Do you know the difference between air and water? In order to observe the Coriolis effect in draining water, several extraordinary precautions must be taken. You must have a smooth circular pan with a precisely centered and very small hole in the center. The pan is filled with water, and allowed to sit for enough time that all motion of the water is gone at the onset of the experiment. My source suggests a week. Then the stopper must be removed from below in a manner that doesn't disturb the water. (save the obvious) If the flow is small enough, and no other disturbances occur, after about an hour, a cyclonic rotation occurs. For all practical purposes, the effect is only applicable for large and long lasting fluid motion. Too bad that, it would be fun to watch water refuse to swirl at all if we emptied a sink at the equator. 8^) - 73 de Mike KB3EIA - In a recent email to an acquaintance of mine who lives in Australia I asked him what the action of draining water was down under. His reply was that results were mixed with some drains turning counter clockwise and some drains turning clockwise. Sometimes it was the same drain. It seems the jury is still out on the subject. Dave WD9BDZ |
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On 20 Feb, 07:26, "David G. Nagel" wrote:
Michael Coslo wrote: wrote: John Smith I wrote: wrote: John Smith I wrote: art wrote: How does the Coreolis force differ from radiation "curl" and how does a tv set made in the northern hemasphere compare in Australia (southern hemisphere) with an Australian TV set ? In the NORTHERN HEMISPHERE... The LAND moves COUNTERCLOCKWISE around the North Pole. Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone. Air flows CLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone. In the SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE... The LAND moves CLOCKWISE around the South Pole. Air flows CLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone. Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone. ... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and objects/properties affected by magnetic properties. I know of no complete studies which have reached any conclusive ends in the directions you seem to suggest. Most likely, not enough is known yet. This has been understood by the educated world since about 1778 when Laplace published his tidal equations, or 1835 when Gaspard-Gustave Coriolis published. Your education seems to be a bit behind the times. It is quite obvious the "Coriolis Effect" has NOTHING to do with water taking its' whirlpool course down the drain in regards to its' current hemisphere ... but you grow predictable. I figured you would lack the intelligence to see this obvious fact. Babbling fool, the above was about AIR, not water. Do you know the difference between air and water? In order to observe the Coriolis effect in draining water, several extraordinary precautions must be taken. You must have a smooth circular pan with a precisely centered and very small hole in the center. The pan is filled with water, and allowed to sit for enough time that all motion of the water is gone at the onset of the experiment. My source suggests a week. Then the stopper must be removed from below in a manner that doesn't disturb the water. (save the obvious) If the flow is small enough, and no other disturbances occur, after about an hour, a cyclonic rotation occurs. For all practical purposes, the effect is only applicable for large and long lasting fluid motion. Too bad that, it would be fun to watch water refuse to swirl at all if we emptied a sink at the equator. 8^) - 73 de Mike KB3EIA - In a recent email to an acquaintance of mine who lives in Australia I asked him what the action of draining water was down under. His reply was that results were mixed with some drains turning counter clockwise and some drains turning clockwise. Sometimes it was the same drain. It seems the jury is still out on the subject. Dave WD9BDZ- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Gentlemen, gentlemen calm down Let us l;ook at how this myth came about A gentleman obtained a glass container and filled it with water. To make sure every thing was kosha he placed a school clock over the container of water and then called his friend down under to corroborate the experiment. Being a friedly man he descided to place the clock under the container so the man down under could also see the clock. He then pulled the plug and watched as the water circled clockwise and then asked the man down under which way did the water go and to his surprise the Aussi said counter clockwise! Now stop this foolishnes and consider what Roy said about Aussi T.V. He stated that the yoke on the CRT was wound in an opposite way to T.V.s in the upper hemisphere so why not consider the implications of that and let the past be seen as water under the bridge Art |
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On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:26:23 -0600, "David G. Nagel"
wrote: It seems the jury is still out on the subject. Given the correspondence, one juror is holding out for acquittal, and Madame LeFarge is cackling in the court room. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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Michael Coslo wrote:
wrote: John Smith I wrote: wrote: John Smith I wrote: art wrote: How does the Coreolis force differ from radiation "curl" and how does a tv set made in the northern hemasphere compare in Australia (southern hemisphere) with an Australian TV set ? In the NORTHERN HEMISPHERE... The LAND moves COUNTERCLOCKWISE around the North Pole. Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone. Air flows CLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone. In the SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE... The LAND moves CLOCKWISE around the South Pole. Air flows CLOCKWISE around a LOW pressure zone. Air flows COUNTERCLOCKWISE around a HIGH pressure zone. ... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and objects/properties affected by magnetic properties. I know of no complete studies which have reached any conclusive ends in the directions you seem to suggest. Most likely, not enough is known yet. This has been understood by the educated world since about 1778 when Laplace published his tidal equations, or 1835 when Gaspard-Gustave Coriolis published. Your education seems to be a bit behind the times. It is quite obvious the "Coriolis Effect" has NOTHING to do with water taking its' whirlpool course down the drain in regards to its' current hemisphere ... but you grow predictable. I figured you would lack the intelligence to see this obvious fact. Babbling fool, the above was about AIR, not water. Do you know the difference between air and water? In order to observe the Coriolis effect in draining water, several extraordinary precautions must be taken. You must have a smooth circular pan with a precisely centered and very small hole in the center. The pan is filled with water, and allowed to sit for enough time that all motion of the water is gone at the onset of the experiment. My source suggests a week. Then the stopper must be removed from below in a manner that doesn't disturb the water. (save the obvious) If the flow is small enough, and no other disturbances occur, after about an hour, a cyclonic rotation occurs. For all practical purposes, the effect is only applicable for large and long lasting fluid motion. Too bad that, it would be fun to watch water refuse to swirl at all if we emptied a sink at the equator. 8^) It is a matter of scale. The coriolis effect is weak and directly a function of distance. Water in a sink is a tiny distance and the effect is miniscule. On huge things like weather fronts, the coriolis effect is quite obvious. Firing tables for long range artillery have corrections for the effect. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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