On my transition to MMANA-GA antenna modeling program from the the AO
professional
antenna program I read the latest review of the 2007 version. It
stated that it overcomes
the irritations and downsides of Elnec and Eznec programs of
yesteryear what ever they
are as well as providing optimisation additions and upto date
additions related to NEC2.etc
I don't have actual knoweledge of the irritations alluded to or
whether there are even newer
versions of these old programs. The important thing is that MMANA-GA
is FREE to all
amateurs and as I have pointed out in the past Industry demands the
fine attributes that
optimization supplies and which are a necessary part of the newer
expensive programs
that proliferate. As I said this program is FREE to all antenna
enthusiasts and provides
all that is needed unless one strives to model all the antennas at the
same time on the
Sears building in Chicago. I am eager to work with their optimiser
which has twice the
variables that my former professional program gave me plus involve
myself with the
group discussions and help modes and other connecting freeware that is
prevalent on the net.
Who knows there may be another Gaussian array scenario waiting to be
discovered
and the tool for pursuit is provided FREE OF CHARGE provided by hams
for all
hams. A christmas present is available to all so that you don't have
to spend
your money at Dayton
Art

Howell does it work?

On May 10, 6:18 pm, art wrote:
On my transition to MMANA-GA antenna modeling program from the the AO
professional
antenna program I read the latest review of the 2007 version. It
stated that it overcomes
the irritations and downsides of Elnec and Eznec programs of
yesteryear what ever they
are as well as providing optimisation additions and upto date
additions related to NEC2.etc
I don't have actual knoweledge of the irritations alluded to or
whether there are even newer
versions of these old programs. The important thing is that MMANA-GA
is FREE to all
amateurs and as I have pointed out in the past Industry demands the
fine attributes that
optimization supplies and which are a necessary part of the newer
expensive programs
that proliferate. As I said this program is FREE to all antenna
enthusiasts and provides
all that is needed unless one strives to model all the antennas at the
same time on the
Sears building in Chicago. I am eager to work with their optimiser
which has twice the
variables that my former professional program gave me plus involve
myself with the
group discussions and help modes and other connecting freeware that is
prevalent on the net.
Who knows there may be another Gaussian array scenario waiting to be
discovered
and the tool for pursuit is provided FREE OF CHARGE provided by hams
for all
hams. A christmas present is available to all so that you don't have
to spend
your money at Dayton
Art

art wrote in news:1178846280.542779.109990
@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:

On my transition to MMANA-GA antenna modeling program from the the AO
professional
antenna program I read the latest review of the 2007 version. It
stated that it overcomes
the irritations and downsides of Elnec and Eznec programs of
yesteryear what ever they
are as well as providing optimisation additions and upto date
additions related to NEC2.etc
I don't have actual knoweledge of the irritations alluded to or
whether there are even newer
versions of these old programs. The important thing is that MMANA-GA
is FREE to all
amateurs and as I have pointed out in the past Industry demands the
fine attributes that
optimization supplies and which are a necessary part of the newer
expensive programs
that proliferate. As I said this program is FREE to all antenna
enthusiasts and provides
all that is needed unless one strives to model all the antennas at the
same time on the
Sears building in Chicago. I am eager to work with their optimiser
which has twice the
variables that my former professional program gave me plus involve
myself with the
group discussions and help modes and other connecting freeware that is
prevalent on the net.
Who knows there may be another Gaussian array scenario waiting to be
discovered
and the tool for pursuit is provided FREE OF CHARGE provided by hams
for all
hams. A christmas present is available to all so that you don't have
to spend
your money at Dayton

And yet, with all that it has, MMANA-GAL is not able to optimize at a
specific take-off angle. That would be SUCH a good feature to have for
HF modelling.

--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667

Dave Oldridge wrote:
...
And yet, with all that it has, MMANA-GAL is not able to optimize at a
specific take-off angle. That would be SUCH a good feature to have for
HF modelling.

That would be very difficult to disagree with, "aiming" your signal at
the target (or aiming your "receiving pattern" at the target) is what is
has always been about ...

Regards,
JS

mmana-gal elnec exnec ao
HF I can figure out but just what doess this mean in english? maybe
about optimize and may be about pattern but what do3es this have to do
with irritations?

On May 13, 8:22 am, John Smith I wrote:
Dave Oldridge wrote:
...
And yet, with all that it has, MMANA-GAL is not able to optimize at a
specific take-off angle. That would be SUCH a good feature to have for
HF modelling.

That would be very difficult to disagree with, "aiming" your signal at
the target (or aiming your "receiving pattern" at the target) is what is
has always been about ...

Regards,
JS

wrote:
mmana-gal elnec exnec ao
HF I can figure out but just what doess this mean in english? maybe
about optimize and may be about pattern but what do3es this have to do
with irritations?

Only a bit more than the relevance of your question to me, on the
subject in question ...

JS

wrote:
mmana-gal elnec exnec ao
HF I can figure out but just what doess this mean in english? . .

A "mmana-gal" is a person of the female persuasion who uses
MMANA or perhaps one who eats manna. An "exnec" is a person who used NEC
in the past but no longer does. "Elnec" is spanish for "the NEC". And
"ao" is shorthand for "all others", "anyone", "altruistic
organizations", or "anti-oscillatory" depending on context. Make these
substitutes when you read Art's postings and they'll make a lot more sense.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Roy Lewallen wrote:
wrote:
mmana-gal elnec exnec ao
HF I can figure out but just what doess this mean in english? . .

A "mmana-gal" is a person of the female persuasion who uses
Close to right on all points, except "MMANA-GAL", she is a lean, mean,
designing machine built by hams for hams:

http://mmhamsoft.amateur-radio.ca/fi...L-1.2.0.20.exe

Regards,
JS

wrote in
ups.com:

mmana-gal elnec exnec ao
HF I can figure out but just what doess this mean in english? maybe
about optimize and may be about pattern but what do3es this have to do
with irritations?

Optimizations allow you to control certain variables. But the MMANA-GAL
optimization does not allow you to maximize gain for a particular elevation
angle. In point-to-point work this would be very useful, as you want to
pick the angle that has the least number of reflections from the ionosphere
and ground along the path (you lose about 10db per hop).

--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667

so no one knows what MMANA-GAL means?
this is a weird group.

On May 15, 2:55 pm, Dave Oldridge
wrote:
wrote roups.com:

mmana-gal elnec exnec ao
HF I can figure out but just what doess this mean in english? maybe
about optimize and may be about pattern but what do3es this have to do
with irritations?

Optimizations allow you to control certain variables. But the MMANA-GAL
optimization does not allow you to maximize gain for a particular elevation
angle. In point-to-point work this would be very useful, as you want to
pick the angle that has the least number of reflections from the ionosphere
and ground along the path (you lose about 10db per hop).

--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667