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Those antennas show excellent design and construction skills... They
can't possibly work when they are that perfect... Where is the
raggedy piece of a beer can, hose clamped to one side for tuning? How
come the coils are symmetrical... Jeez, any ham worthy of the name
could take one of those and drive over it a couple of times so it
looks like a "real" antenna...

Anyway, thanks for the url, I enjoyed perusing the pictures...

denny / k8do

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Denny wrote:
On Jun 15, 12:40 am, John Smith I wrote:
http://freeweb.supereva.com/dai5tgc....aeri_tgc.htm?p

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Those antennas show excellent design and construction skills... They
can't possibly work when they are that perfect... Where is the
raggedy piece of a beer can, hose clamped to one side for tuning? How
come the coils are symmetrical... Jeez, any ham worthy of the name
could take one of those and drive over it a couple of times so it
looks like a "real" antenna...

Anyway, thanks for the url, I enjoyed perusing the pictures...

denny / k8do


Denny:

Darn things remind of things out of a 1950's grade B science fiction
flick! grin

However, as you say, he has done a nice job in construction of them.

Regards,
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On 15 Jun, 07:30, John Smith I wrote:
Denny wrote:
On Jun 15, 12:40 am, John Smith I wrote:
http://freeweb.supereva.com/dai5tgc....aeri_tgc.htm?p


JS


Those antennas show excellent design and construction skills... They
can't possibly work when they are that perfect... Where is the
raggedy piece of a beer can, hose clamped to one side for tuning? How
come the coils are symmetrical... Jeez, any ham worthy of the name
could take one of those and drive over it a couple of times so it
looks like a "real" antenna...


Anyway, thanks for the url, I enjoyed perusing the pictures...


denny / k8do


Denny:

Darn things remind of things out of a 1950's grade B science fiction
flick! grin

However, as you say, he has done a nice job in construction of them.

Regards,
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Oh my!! What a great site. I am so pleased to see examples of
experimentation
done with so much skill.I am sure it doesn't matter to him those that
question
the amount of gain he achieved or what use they are since it is
obvious
that it is a labor of love When I last visited Europe it was evident
that
experimentation was still active in amateur radio where there were
enthusiastic
listeners to the trials and tribulations of the antenna builder. I
never heard
any derision obviously because the question could immediately be
imposed as to
what the complainer had done lately. In America we have the ability to
buy what
we want and thus do not realise the joy of self achievement and the
comararderie
of fellow amateur builders. The amateur magazines still print plans
of how
to build a morse code keyer or a power supply but I doubt there are
many
builders and you certainly would not find an interest in the stated
antennas
this side of the Pond unless they met the standards of a cell phone.
It really is nice to see what a man can do for himself and the obvious
joy that
he gets what he is doing. As is often said it is the pursuit that
provides
enjoyement, something a couch potato will never realize. I wonder what
that amateur
would be doing if he lived in America Could he have survived the
caustic comments
usually applied to those who spend their time making antennas when
all about
antennas is now really known as the posters to this newsgroup will
testify to ?
We are not doers any more and are content with buying what doers in
other Countries
are willing to make for us until they realise we have nothing to trade
for their favors.
A Japanese admiral once said that they had awakened a sleeping giant,
so what does
it take to awaken a Nation from a coma?

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art wrote:

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A Japanese admiral once said that they had awakened a sleeping giant,
so what does
it take to awaken a Nation from a coma?


Art:

I see America quite differently ...

There is a major problem of minorities with special-self-serving
interests getting into positions of influence/power. A prime example is
gays in politics and the negative effects this is having on home,
family, quality of living, American values, etc.

In amateur radio you see the arrl and the effects it has had on the
hobby. They are a business/"political entity" in a field which would be
better served as amateurs-helping-amateurs. You still see the real
importance of amateur radio in open minded individuals still willing to
look for new things. And, again, you see it with little individual
amateurs with web pages providing information sharing with all other
amateurs.

The problem is that the most visible influences are based in
tradition/"religion"/profit and a myriad of other self serving motivations.

You see it right here in the news groups, fractions break off and form
little klicks and work to sabotage threads which they view as contrary
to their purposes. Instead of denying conspiracies, I have began to
wonder what people cannot design a conspiracy around!

Hey, in a free country, those are dangers you must learn to live with
and survive within ... the only danger is if you comply and are
assimilated (think borg here.)

Regards,
JS


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On 15 Jun, 09:16, John Smith I wrote:
art wrote:

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A Japanese admiral once said that they had awakened a sleeping giant,
so what does
it take to awaken a Nation from a coma?


Art:

I see America quite differently ...

There is a major problem of minorities with special-self-serving
interests getting into positions of influence/power. A prime example is
gays in politics and the negative effects this is having on home,
family, quality of living, American values, etc.

In amateur radio you see the arrl and the effects it has had on the
hobby. They are a business/"political entity" in a field which would be
better served as amateurs-helping-amateurs. You still see the real
importance of amateur radio in open minded individuals still willing to
look for new things. And, again, you see it with little individual
amateurs with web pages providing information sharing with all other
amateurs.

The problem is that the most visible influences are based in
tradition/"religion"/profit and a myriad of other self serving motivations.

You see it right here in the news groups, fractions break off and form
little klicks and work to sabotage threads which they view as contrary
to their purposes. Instead of denying conspiracies, I have began to
wonder what people cannot design a conspiracy around!

Hey, in a free country, those are dangers you must learn to live with
and survive within ... the only danger is if you comply and are
assimilated (think borg here.)

Regards,
JS


Well all of us have different views but the common bond is the
realisation
that something is wrong. I have only lived in America for nearly fifty
years
and I always thought the strength of America was Capitalism where the
home
market decides. I never thought that a system that was working would
stoop to
altering the market for short term profits. General Electric one of
the oldest
members of the stock market decided some twenty years ago to get out
of
the manufacturing market and go after the paper money. They did quite
well
with that change with the only downsides being a Rust Belt and a turn
away
from the average American employee. In Bloomington IL we have STATE
FARM
Country Companies and two Universities There is an Indian employment
agency
to meet the needs of technical workers for the Insurance industry.
What do we tell the American to study to justify a life bearing money
debt
when the technical jobs go to foreigners and the lesser education jobs
go to
near by border residents? In the name of diversity we changed from
the
traditional scources for immigration and became a Country that was
open to all.
Did we lose by doing this? What did we gain, a future multi lingual
population
where individual states succeed from the Union in order to stem the
tide?

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