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how would u like to change the cell phone industry?


Analog cells phones should stop using FM and should start using AM
with SHF frequencies - at least 3 GHz and at most 30 GHz.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_high_frequency

I choose SHF frequencies because SHF seems to be the sweet spot
between frequencies that are high-enough to rip through charged
particles & provide large amounts of bandwidth, yet low-enough to be
wireless and long-distance. At EHF and above, it starts to get into
the IR range where long-distance wireless reception is not possible
and atmospheric opacity begins to dominate.

Equally important, SHF frequencies can efficiently transmit signals
using extremely small transmitters. Longer wavelengths require larger
transmitters.

Obviously there are frequencies lower than SHF -- VHF and above --
that can easily penetrate charged particles [e.g. anything resembling
the ionosphere or heliosphere]. However, lower-frequencies tend to
result in less bandwidth, so it is better to use higher-frequencies
when the application requires significant bandwidth.

I choose AM because it requires less bandwidth than FM. In addition,
AM tends to retain reception of rather weak signals, while FM
"considers" such signals to be absent.

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In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Radium wrote:
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how would u like to change the cell phone industry?


Analog cells phones should stop using FM and should start using AM
with SHF frequencies - at least 3 GHz and at most 30 GHz.


Analog cell phones are going away.

Cell phones already use frequencies in the 3 GHz region.

You are an idiot.

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Cell phones already use frequencies in the 3 GHz region.


Really? Which ones? I'm only aware of cell systems using 800, 900, 1800 and
1900 MHz. There are some (very few) multisystem phones that use all four of
those ranges.


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Cell phones already use frequencies in the 3 GHz region.


Really? Which ones? I'm only aware of cell systems using 800, 900, 1800 and
1900 MHz. There are some (very few) multisystem phones that use all four of
those ranges.


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Cell phones already use frequencies in the 3 GHz region.


Really? Which ones? I'm only aware of cell systems using 800, 900, 1800 and
1900 MHz. There are some (very few) multisystem phones that use all four of
those ranges.


Notice the word "region"?

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On Jul 15, 1:45 pm, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Radium wrote:

On Jul 1, 7:24 am, wrote in
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how would u like to change the cell phone industry?

Analog cells phones should stop using FM and should start using AM
with SHF frequencies - at least 3 GHz and at most 30 GHz.


Analog cell phones are going away.

Cell phones already use frequencies in the 3 GHz region.

You are an idiot.

snip crap

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Thank you Jim. You did good, it will come around full circle, allways does!

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In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Radium wrote:
On Jul 1, 7:24 am, wrote in
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how would u like to change the cell phone industry?


Analog cells phones should stop using FM and should start using AM
with SHF frequencies - at least 3 GHz and at most 30 GHz.


Analog cell phones are going away.

Cell phones already use frequencies in the 3 GHz region.

You are an idiot.

snip crap

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On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:45:02 GMT, wrote in
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In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Radium wrote:
On Jul 1, 7:24 am, wrote in
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.e...0c8ed13?hl=en&
:


how would u like to change the cell phone industry?


Analog cells phones should stop using FM and should start using AM
with SHF frequencies - at least 3 GHz and at most 30 GHz.


Analog cell phones are going away.


True.

Cell phones already use frequencies in the 3 GHz region.


False.

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In rec.radio.amateur.antenna John Navas wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:45:02 GMT, wrote in
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In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Radium wrote:
On Jul 1, 7:24 am, wrote in
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how would u like to change the cell phone industry?


Analog cells phones should stop using FM and should start using AM
with SHF frequencies - at least 3 GHz and at most 30 GHz.


Analog cell phones are going away.


True.


Cell phones already use frequencies in the 3 GHz region.


False.


1.9 GHz is in the -region- of 3 GHz.

..8 GHz is not in the -region- of 3 GHz.

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On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:05:01 GMT, wrote in
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In rec.radio.amateur.antenna John Navas wrote:
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Cell phones already use frequencies in the 3 GHz region.


False.


1.9 GHz is in the -region- of 3 GHz.


False.

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