Jimmie D wrote:

...
What I said in no way disagrees with the article and besides that I know of
no published work of Einstiens that states what the article said. Perhaps
this was something he pondered at one time. I am sure he changed his
thinking on a lot of things over the years given the fact he and other
...
Jimmie

I know of no significant denial(s) made my Einstein to what has been
stated. One can begin he

http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~...ein_ether.html

Let me know of any works, statements, writings which I am ignorant of
and to ...

Regards,
JS

On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 10:35:50 -0400, Ed Cregger
wrote:

And who was this Schroedinger guy anyway?

He was Lucia's boyfriend who played the Pianoforte. Their lives were
humorously chronicled in an illustrated fiction called "Goober Peas."
Continuing themes of their friends and relatives populated this series
with such stories as the "strange attractors" of kites and trees, or
the wave function of a football that couldn't be kicked. The
illustrator was purported to be one Eisenstein, but this was later
found to be erroneously inferred from earlier cinematic work with
similar themes found in "Aleksandr Nevskiy."

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

"Ed Cregger" wrote in message
.. .
Cecil Moore wrote:
John Smith wrote:
Time is not a physical reality, the past and the future exist only in
human reasoning.

Lots of things didn't exist before homo sapiens. :-)


---------


What if all things were true - and false? Personally, I'd just open the
box and ask the cat. Assuming that it was still alive, that is. G

And who was this Schroedinger guy anyway?


Ed, NM2K

The point Schroedinger was trying to make is that in the absence of
information, there is no way we can absolutely know something. The very act
of measuring or observing something causes the wave function to collapse and
reveal an object's position, speed or some other state we are trying to
establish. Opening the box and asking the cat seems eminently reasonable.
The cat is never actually in a quasi alive/dead condition. In it's own
'universe' (box) it is either alive or dead. We cannot know which without
opening the box at which point the two separated 'universes' collapse into
one. Prior to opening the box it is necessary to consider both options alive
or dead as a possibility but there is no third case where the cat is both
alive and dead at the same time. The physical laws in our universe do not
appear to allow for objects larger than a buckyball molecule of C60 to exist
in quasi states.
Trying to establish whether individual photons or electromagnetic waves are
emitted by an antenna suffers from the same difficulties. The very act of
trying to establish what is being emitted will collapse the wave function of
the photons or electromagnetic wave to reveal one or the other, but not both
simultaneously.

Mike G0ULI

Richard Clark wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 10:35:50 -0400, Ed Cregger
wrote:

And who was this Schroedinger guy anyway?

He was Lucia's boyfriend who played the Pianoforte. Their lives were
humorously chronicled in an illustrated fiction called "Goober Peas."
Continuing themes of their friends and relatives populated this series
with such stories as the "strange attractors" of kites and trees, or
the wave function of a football that couldn't be kicked. The
illustrator was purported to be one Eisenstein, but this was later
found to be erroneously inferred from earlier cinematic work with
similar themes found in "Aleksandr Nevskiy."

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Interesting.

Did it/he/they have anything to say about visions of silvery and copper
colored fingers plucking the harp strings of the seemingly invisible ether?

Regards,
JS

John Smith wrote:

...
Did it/he/they have anything to say about visions of silvery and copper
colored fingers plucking the harp strings of the seemingly invisible ether?

Regards,
JS

This:

"The greatest change in the axiomatic basis of physics - in other words,
of our conception of the structure of reality - since Newton laid the
foundation of theoretical physics was brought about by Faraday's and
Maxwell's work on electromagnetic field phenomena.
Faraday must have grasped with unerring instinct the artificial nature
of all attempts to refer electromagnetic phenomena to
actions-at-a-distance between electric particles reacting on each other.
How was each single iron filing among a lot scattered on a piece of
paper to know of the single electric particles running round in a nearby
conductor? All these electric particles together seemed to create in the
surrounding space a condition which in turn produced a certain order in
the filings. These spatial states, today called fields, would, he was
convinced, furnish the clue to the mysterious electromagnetic
interactions. He conceived these fields as states of mechanical stress
in an elastically distended body (ether)."
(Albert Einstein, 1954)

From he

http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Physic...trum-Waves.htm

Regards,
JS

art wrote:

...
I'll get it to you
Art


I got it--pun intended.

It should be becoming obvious that I have read Einstein--and believed.

Indeed, what other force can we produce upon the ether to achieve our
communications? EM fields strike/push/pull/influence the ethers'
strings ...

Those lines of force, seen in iron filings/powder, show "stress" of the
ether--any engineer worth his salt will recognize these "stress lines"
in a media ... in this case "gravitational ether"--an un-ponder-able media.

Regards,
JS

John Smith wrote:

...

Level three:

I show up in your neighborhood--I am just joe-blow-citizen ... with me,
I have a 1,000,000 rpm LARGE motor and a good sized, bar, neodymium
magnet. I affix the middle of the magnet to the shaft of the motor and
plug her in!

Meanwhile, inside your home, you pick up a signal around the middle of
the am broadcast band. Suspicious, you look out the window and see me
with my "rig." You call the "rf police."

They charge me with:

1) Exceeding the legal input power on a xmitter?

2) Shooting rf photons at your home?

3) Creating a disturbance (in the gravitational ether?)

4) All of the above?

5) None of the above?

Regards,
JS

On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:35:10 -0700, John Smith wrote:

I show up in your neighborhood--I am just joe-blow-citizen ... with me, I
have a 1,000,000 rpm LARGE motor and a good sized, bar, neodymium magnet.
I affix the middle of the magnet to the shaft of the motor and plug her
in!

Meanwhile, inside your home, you pick up a signal around the middle of the
am broadcast band. Suspicious, you look out the window and see me with my
"rig." You call the "rf police."

They charge me with:

1) Exceeding the legal input power on a xmitter?

2) Shooting rf photons at your home?

3) Creating a disturbance (in the gravitational ether?)

4) All of the above?

5) None of the above?

Regards,
JS

They would charge you with making a deadly explosive device. The large
motor alone would disinagrate at that amount of rpm. :-)

John Smith wrote:
John Smith wrote:

...

Level three:

I show up in your neighborhood--I am just joe-blow-citizen ... with me,
I have a 1,000,000 rpm LARGE motor and a good sized, bar, neodymium
magnet. I affix the middle of the magnet to the shaft of the motor and
plug her in!

Meanwhile, inside your home, you pick up a signal around the middle of
the am broadcast band...

I might pick up a signal in the middle of the AM broadcast band but it
won't be yours, you're at 16.7 kHz.

On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:29:07 GMT, gwatts
wrote:

John Smith wrote:
John Smith wrote:

...

Level three:

I show up in your neighborhood--I am just joe-blow-citizen ... with me,
I have a 1,000,000 rpm LARGE motor and a good sized, bar, neodymium
magnet. I affix the middle of the magnet to the shaft of the motor and
plug her in!

Meanwhile, inside your home, you pick up a signal around the middle of
the am broadcast band...

I might pick up a signal in the middle of the AM broadcast band but it
won't be yours, you're at 16.7 kHz.

One reason why the FCC gives exams for licenses (and an example of
self-thinning at the shallow end of the genetic pool).

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC