Art wrote:
"That is because you quote outdated technology and have lost the means
of deduction for yourself."

O.K, Not much technical content in that posting, nor hint of what Art
hopes to do with an 80 degree tilt. Maximizing horizontal polarisation
is another mystery. Vertical polarization is the way to launch
groundwaves and it will be so 100 years from today. Modern technology is
unlikely to improve the FCC approved antenna and grounding systems used
in AM broadcasting, thanks to RCA`s B., L., & E. (1927).

The coil argument has persisted a long time but it has provoked some
searching into the behavior of inductance. W8JI may be on to something
but he may not have it exactly right. Terman and Lenkurt have the TWT
down, as invented in England (1943) but its coil is stretched out so
that a foot long coil only has a dozen turns and lacks tight coupling
which might work as W8JI describes.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

John Smith wrote:
Should be able to hit "print screen" button, open paint and paste the
image in, then save the file and attach it to an email/post ...
sometimes the print screen button is used in conjunction with a
"function button", especially on laptops.

That worked with Windows 98 and SE. Doesn't work
with XP. When I go to paste into paint, there is
nothing there to paste. The problem is that XP
won't allow me to display MicroSmith in a window.

If all that fails, a good utility for screen capture is mwsnap, you can
find it he

http://www.mirekw.com/winfreeware/mwsnap.html

I wonder if it will work with a Quickbasic DOS
program running under XP that will not display
in a window?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Cecil Moore wrote:

...
I wonder if it will work with a Quickbasic DOS
program running under XP that will not display
in a window?

OK, I was too quick to dismiss the REAL problem ... if I come across
anything--I'll let ya know ... I stand corrected.

Ever think about an updated freeware/shareware smith program?

Regards,
JS

On 6 Dec, 13:40, (Richard Harrison) wrote:
Art wrote:

"That is because you quote outdated technology and have lost the means
of deduction for yourself."

O.K, Not much technical content in that posting, nor hint of what Art
hopes to do with an 80 degree tilt. Maximizing horizontal polarisation
is another mystery.

Hmm You put a stake in the ground when you stated that you can take
Kraus to the bank. Have you changed your mind regarding a tilt angle?
Why do you state that maximising horizontal polarisation is a mystery
if you are now finally aware of antenna tilt?
As far as maximising specific polarisation apparently airports need
to devise such a system to find wind shear systems. I suspect that
medical systems would appreciate a clearer focus. But describing
this effect to fill a hole that is present in industry it is just
something that was revealed when adding time varient and radiators
to Gaussian law. It forced me to consider the equilibrium effects
within the arbitary gravitational field which thus demanded a full
wave length radiator and not to accept fractional lengths.
The same trail also showed me that an array in equilibrium provides
stacked gain tho using a single feed and again the tilt angle comes
into play. These determinations along the path of the trail showed
that the helix angle that Kraus found by experimentation was a
reflection of the radiator tilt revealed while on the trail.
This tilt angle is given by all computor programs some thing I
was unaware of and where all people on this group are in denial.
The same trail leads to helix antennas that are in equilibrium
which by following the trail provides me with a rotatable
directive antenna which also provides a path to a near point
radiation system predicted by a russian scientist as being
possible. What I intend to do with the radiator tilt is of no
concern to me or that the trail's final destination is
Maxwell's law which is thus now described in deeper detail.
This emphasises that old chinese saying It is n ot the
destination that counts but the journey taken to get there.
You can mock the idea of a tilt and any program that portrays
it but for the young and inquisitive it is quite exciting.
When we are gone and forgotten new wheels will roll on
this same trail and there will be an understanding as how the
Japanese did not have a yagi antenna during the last war.
This was the unwillingnes to change despite the obvious.
If you haven't got a computor or unwilling to address
computor programs then ask a friend to check it out for you.
Adding this to Terman could possibly allow you to leapfrog
the world with respect to radiation.Or you can ignore it and
pass on restfully and without concern to your final destiny.
Your choice
Art
Art




Vertical polarization is the way to launch
groundwaves and it will be so 100 years from today. Modern technology is
unlikely to improve the FCC approved antenna and grounding systems used
in AM broadcasting, thanks to RCA`s B., L., & E. (1927).

The coil argument has persisted a long time but it has provoked some
searching into the behavior of inductance. W8JI may be on to something
but he may not have it exactly right. Terman and Lenkurt have the TWT
down, as invented in England (1943) but its coil is stretched out so
that a foot long coil only has a dozen turns and lacks tight coupling
which might work as W8JI describes.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

Derek wrote in news:7437a21d-524e-43c8-95b1-
:

On Dec 6, 11:43 am, Roy Lewallen wrote:


Hi Roy
You have the program, do as Art say's and tell us what it
comes up with.

Doesn't work that way, sir.

If I say that antennas work by shooting little turds off the ends of the
wires, it isn't Roy's job to prove it, it's mine.

- 73 de Mike N3LI -

On Dec 6, 7:13 pm, Mike Coslo wrote:
Derek wrote in news:7437a21d-524e-43c8-95b1-
:

On Dec 6, 11:43 am, Roy Lewallen wrote:

Hi Roy
You have the program, do as Art say's and tell us what it
comes up with.

Doesn't work that way, sir.

If I say that antennas work by shooting little turds off the ends of the
wires, it isn't Roy's job to prove it, it's mine.

- 73 de Mike N3LI -

Post of the week. You win a free Britney Spears oven mitt!
MK

"AI4QJ" wrote in message
...

"art" wrote in message
...

Gauss's theory of statics evolves around equilibrium with respect to a
group
of static particles held within the limits of a gravitational force

What is the mass of 1 Volt/meter?




art has now added gravity to gauss in addition to time... what has he got in
his gut?? whatever it is i'll take a double!

On Dec 7, 10:13 am, Mike Coslo wrote

Doesn't work that way, sir.

If I say that antennas work by shooting little turds off the ends of the
wires, it isn't Roy's job to prove it, it's mine.

- 73 de Mike N3LI -

Hi Mike
What you say is very true, but, Art is not looking for
confirmation
he has already stated that he is not going to hand his findings to
this group on a plate.
What he is trying to do is guide others to find for themselves what
he already knows.

Derek

On 6 Dec, 17:50, "Dave" wrote:
"AI4QJ" wrote in message

...



"art" wrote in message
...

Gauss's theory of statics evolves around equilibrium with respect to a
group
of static particles held within the limits of a gravitational force

What is the mass of 1 Volt/meter?

art has now added gravity to gauss in addition to time... what has he got in
his gut?? whatever it is i'll take a double!

David
Go to your books and read the basics on Gauss with respect
to a arbitary field.
I am beginning to belief that you have lost everything
that you learned in college. Have you had a heart attack or
a stroke sometime in the past which would explane that?
Art

On 6 Dec, 18:07, Derek wrote:
On Dec 7, 10:13 am, Mike Coslo wrote



Doesn't work that way, sir.

If I say that antennas work by shooting little turds off the ends of the
wires, it isn't Roy's job to prove it, it's mine.

- 73 de Mike N3LI -

Hi Mike
What you say is very true, but, Art is not looking for
confirmation
he has already stated that he is not going to hand his findings to
this group on a plate.
What he is trying to do is guide others to find for themselves what
he already knows.

Derek

Impossible to do that if they don't understand the basics of physics!
I was hoping an inquisitive educated person would come along and read
but we rarely have such a visitor as the groups reputation procedes
us.
I will put the subject away for a more suitable time where it can be
properly debated.On top of that none are able to operate a antenna
computor program or even want to which bring things to a dead end.
Enuf for now. For the present I will call it a day and move on.
Art