Guy's
You must know that the holy grail of physics is GUT which is now
gyrating towards
relatavistic theory out of delusionment with Newton. Newtons laws are
based
around equilibrium with respect to gravitational forces. Maxwells laws
do not
but we are in the same universe so it is reasonable that both sciences
are
unified.
Gauss's theory of statics evolves around equilibrium with respect to a
group
of static particles held within the limits of a gravitational force
ie.
Newtons terminology.Adding a time varient brings the stage to a
electromagnetic
arrangement with respect to Maxwell. On the way we learn about
equilibrium
being maintained by adding full wave length radiators to Gaussian law.
We then see that the resultant of the transition from Gauss to Maxwell
type radiation formula becomes the equivalent of a "tank" circuit
where if the
radiator is diamagnetic the static particals can rest on its surface.
We also know that levitation is created when current flows followed by
a magnetic field
which ejects the particles outside the immediate gravitational field.
So with science being what it is, today where we have computor
programs built around
Maxwell's laws that can be used to deduce radiator dimensions with
respect to shape
and elevation positions when maximum horizontal polarisation is
required.
Thus modern day computors provide the answer as a full wavelength
radiator that is
at an angle to the earth of just under 80 degrees.
Now I had no input with resect to the design of Maxwellian computor
programs but I have
messed with some jigsaw puzzles where it is well known that the first
portion
placed on the table determines the speed of the process. So I invite
you to ask
your computor program to deduce the style of a radiator that produces
the maximum
horizontal polarization and then determine if Maxwell would have
helped himself
and all science by adding a time variant to Gaussian law and
incorporated it into his own?
Put the request into your Maxwellian based radiation computor program
if you are
not to lazy, where you will learn details of the GUT that Maxwell
failed to provide.
The holy grail is no more!
Best regards
Art Unwin...KB9MZ...xg (uk)

Ignoring for now the unsupported claims art made earlier in
this same post of his, here are some comments relating to this
incomplete and curious sentence fragment he posted...

"So with science being what it is, today where we have computor
programs built around Maxwell's laws that can be used to deduce
radiator dimensions with respect to shape and elevation positions
when maximum horizontal polarisation is required."

and

"Thus modern day computors provide the answer as a full wavelength
radiator that is at an angle to the earth of just under 80 degrees."
____________

art,

Theoretical physics, many decades of accurate field measurements,
and the free-field NEC data I posted earlier in this thread do not support
your intuition / belief about this.

With all due respect, art, you need to educate yourself further on such
topics
if you wish to avoid the criticism of your views such as haunt you here.

RF

On Dec 6, 9:19 am, "Richard Fry" wrote:


Hi Richard

Art has given the "key" try turning it in the lock before making
comments as to whether it works or not, then wipe the egg off your
face

Derek

"Derek" wrote
Art has given the "key" try turning it in the lock before making
comments as to whether it works or not, then wipe the egg off your
face
____________

Derek,

Not to be abrasive -- the technically accurate content of your post is
noted.

No doubt the readers of your post who believe as you do will be happy,
never mind the science here.

RF

On Dec 6, 9:50 am, "Richard Fry" wrote:
"Derek" wrote Art has given the "key" try turning it in the lock before making
comments as to whether it works or not, then wipe the egg off your
face

____________

Derek,

Not to be abrasive -- the technically accurate content of your post is
noted.

No doubt the readers of your post who believe as you do will be happy,
never mind the science here.

RF

On Dec 6, 9:50 am, "Richard Fry" wrote:
"Derek" wrote Art has given the "key" try turning it in the lock before making
comments as to whether it works or not, then wipe the egg off your
face

____________

Derek,

Not to be abrasive -- the technically accurate content of your post is
noted.

No doubt the readers of your post who believe as you do will be happy,
never mind the science here.

RF

Hi Richard
I say again try the key in the lock, you may be
surprised.

Derek

Derek wrote:
On Dec 6, 9:19 am, "Richard Fry" wrote:


Hi Richard

Art has given the "key" try turning it in the lock before making
comments as to whether it works or not, then wipe the egg off your
face

Derek

Art is giving away LSD? Or mushrooms?

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

"AI4QJ" wrote in message
...

"art" wrote in message
...
Guy's
You must know that the holy grail of physics is GUT which is now
gyrating towards
relatavistic theory out of delusionment with Newton. Newtons laws are
based
around equilibrium with respect to gravitational forces. Maxwells laws
do not
but we are in the same universe so it is reasonable that both sciences
are
unified.
Gauss's theory of statics evolves around equilibrium with respect to a
group
of static particles held within the limits of a gravitational force
ie.
Newtons terminology.Adding a time varient brings the stage to a
electromagnetic
arrangement with respect to Maxwell. On the way we learn about
equilibrium
being maintained by adding full wave length radiators to Gaussian law.
We then see that the resultant of the transition from Gauss to Maxwell
type radiation formula becomes the equivalent of a "tank" circuit
where if the
radiator is diamagnetic the static particals can rest on its surface.
We also know that levitation is created when current flows followed by
a magnetic field
which ejects the particles outside the immediate gravitational field.
So with science being what it is, today where we have computor
programs built around
Maxwell's laws that can be used to deduce radiator dimensions with
respect to shape
and elevation positions when maximum horizontal polarisation is
required.
Thus modern day computors provide the answer as a full wavelength
radiator that is
at an angle to the earth of just under 80 degrees.
Now I had no input with resect to the design of Maxwellian computor
programs but I have
messed with some jigsaw puzzles where it is well known that the first
portion
placed on the table determines the speed of the process. So I invite
you to ask
your computor program to deduce the style of a radiator that produces
the maximum
horizontal polarization and then determine if Maxwell would have
helped himself
and all science by adding a time variant to Gaussian law and
incorporated it into his own?
Put the request into your Maxwellian based radiation computor program
if you are
not to lazy, where you will learn details of the GUT that Maxwell
failed to provide.
The holy grail is no more!
Best regards
Art Unwin...KB9MZ...xg (uk)

Adding a time variant (dt) to Gause's static law turns "charge" (coulombs)
into "current" (amperes). I think Maxwell's equations already cover that
concept and goes on to decribe the effects of changing voltages and
currents on electric and magnetic fields. I don't see any new concepts
being added here.

With regard to unification theory, I sure would like to see that in my
lifetime but probably will not. There may simply be no direct correlation
between gravitational, electrical and the strong and weak nuclear forces.
Why MUST there be a unifier? No unification may have been intended ;-)

Light is distorted by gravity
Light is propagated by photons
Photons are characterised as an oscillating packet of electrical and
magnetic fields
Photons are emitted and absorbed by electrons which encircle an atomic
neucleus
Atomic nucleii are held together by the strong and weak nuclear forces
Atomic nucleii have mass which gives rise to gravity (which distorts light)

How much more unification is needed?

Simplistic, but does it really have to be much more complicated than this at
a practical (everyday) level?

Proving this mathematically is a real nightmare, which probably goes to show
that it is our understanding of mathematics that is lacking rather than some
inherent error in the way the universe works.

Mike G0ULI

Put the request into your Maxwellian based radiation computor program
if you are
not to lazy, where you will learn details of the GUT that Maxwell
failed to provide.
The holy grail is no more!
Best regards
Art Unwin...KB9MZ...xg (uk)

Does this effect my HF arrays?

W4OP

On Dec 6, 11:43 am, Roy Lewallen wrote:


Hi Roy
You have the program, do as Art say's and tell us what it
comes up with.

Derek