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I haven't been monitoring the group for a while. Wondering if anyone
has considered two screwdriver type antennas mounted horizontal in a
dipole fashion in the attic and appropriate control to acheive a
tuneable attic dipole. stealth in CCR is the motivation.

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jawod wrote in news:9af7$476b3a7b$d066b697$22900
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I haven't been monitoring the group for a while. Wondering if anyone
has considered two screwdriver type antennas mounted horizontal in a
dipole fashion in the attic and appropriate control to acheive a
tuneable attic dipole. stealth in CCR is the motivation.

john
AB8O



Sounds like it would work, to me, but if it were me I would use wire
instead. You can probably place wire more effectively in your attic and
just use an SGC antenna coupler to tune it at the feedpoint. Would
probably not only work better, but would be cheaper, too.


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On Dec 21, 12:09*am, "Ed_G" wrote:
jawod wrote in news:9af7$476b3a7b$d066b697$22900
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I haven't been monitoring the group for a while. *Wondering if anyone
has considered two screwdriver type antennas mounted horizontal in a
dipole fashion in the attic and appropriate control to acheive a
tuneable attic dipole. *stealth in CCR is the motivation.


john
AB8O


* *Sounds like it would work, to me, *but if it were me I would use wire
instead. *You can probably place wire more effectively in your attic and
just use an SGC antenna coupler to tune it at the feedpoint. *Would
probably not only work better, but would be cheaper, too.

* *Ed * K7AAT


Hoo booooey, here we go again....

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jawod wrote:
I haven't been monitoring the group for a while. Wondering if anyone
has considered two screwdriver type antennas mounted horizontal in a
dipole fashion in the attic and appropriate control to acheive a
tuneable attic dipole. stealth in CCR is the motivation.


Most hams use one screwdriver antenna with various
lengths of counterpoises.
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I haven't been monitoring the group for a while. *Wondering if

anyone
has considered two screwdriver type antennas mounted horizontal in

a
dipole fashion in the attic and appropriate control to acheive a
tuneable attic dipole. *stealth in CCR is the motivation.


john
AB8O


* *Sounds like it would work, to me, *but if it were me I would use

wire
instead. *You can probably place wire more effectively in your attic

and

just use an SGC antenna coupler to tune it at the feedpoint. *Would
probably not only work better, but would be cheaper, too.

* *Ed * K7AAT


Hoo booooey, here we go again....

denny



??? Have I missed something?

Ed




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Ed_G wrote:
I haven't been monitoring the group for a while. Wondering if

anyone
has considered two screwdriver type antennas mounted horizontal in

a
dipole fashion in the attic and appropriate control to acheive a
tuneable attic dipole. stealth in CCR is the motivation.
john
AB8O
Sounds like it would work, to me, but if it were me I would use

wire
instead. You can probably place wire more effectively in your attic

and
just use an SGC antenna coupler to tune it at the feedpoint. Would
probably not only work better, but would be cheaper, too.

Ed K7AAT

Hoo booooey, here we go again....



??? Have I missed something?

Ed


I suppose someone has written on the topic before. But is that like a
crime in this group?

I suppose a person might with a lot of effort to synchronise the
screwdrivers, and a whole heck of lot of money for the screwdrivers
themselves, manage to put a really mediocre antenna in their attic!

There are a lot more cost effective solutions out there.

- 73 de Mike N3LI -
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I haven't been monitoring the group for a while. Wondering if

anyone
has considered two screwdriver type antennas mounted horizontal in

a
dipole fashion in the attic and appropriate control to acheive a
tuneable attic dipole. stealth in CCR is the motivation.
john
AB8O
Sounds like it would work, to me, but if it were me I would use
wire
instead. You can probably place wire more effectively in your

attic
and
just use an SGC antenna coupler to tune it at the feedpoint. Would
probably not only work better, but would be cheaper, too.

Ed K7AAT



Hoo booooey, here we go again....



??? Have I missed something?

Ed



I suppose someone has written on the topic before. But is that like a
crime in this group?

I suppose a person might with a lot of effort to synchronise the
screwdrivers, and a whole heck of lot of money for the screwdrivers
themselves, manage to put a really mediocre antenna in their attic!

There are a lot more cost effective solutions out there.

- 73 de Mike N3LI -



Yeah, Mike. That was my take, and the reason I suggested wire
antenna in attic with an antenna coupler/tuner up there.


Ed K7AAT

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* * ??? * *Have I missed something?

* * * * * *Ed- Hide quoted text -

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Yup, this is an old dead horse we are beating, several times now...
Peruse the archives over using a pair of mobile whips as a dipole...

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Cecil Moore wrote:

Most hams use one screwdriver antenna with various
lengths of counterpoises.


Don Johnson in one of his 1990 books featured a photo of a dipole with two
screwdrivers in the 90's. Since hams can build a screwdriver for about $50
each maximum if good scroungers, it's doubtful an SGC tuner is a cheaper or
easier solution than said screwdriver dipole.

Such an antenna won't be a great antenna, but then again an indoor stealth
antenna is never going to be competitive with full size outdoor antennas
well removed from buildings and the like.

I'ld personally rather be on the air rather than arguing the merits of a
screwdriver antenna versus an autotuner with wires and counterpoise.
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Can it be done? Sure.
Has it been done? I'm sure it probably has, I've just don't remember
hearing about it.
Would it work? Certainly much better than no antenna at all!
Would it be difficult to build? Just depends on the builder's
imagination and how 'handy' he/she is.
Would there be a commercial market? Probably a small one, with all
the characteristics of a small market.
Are there other ways of going about it? Sure, refer back to that
imagination and 'handy' thingy.
- 'Doc

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