I hate to totally block people who arguably have some useful things to post
to the newsgroup. But the content on the thread about travelling waves
versus standing waves has become so dominated by one person that there is
no way to end it except by filtering all messages to
rec.radio.amateur.antennas to eliminate the dominant poster. So I have not
only blocked articles from his web site, I am blocking any article which
contains his name. So if you reply to him, I am sorry but I will not be
able to see your remarks. I know that no one is likely to lose any sleep
about my actions. From now on, I hope there will be articles about antenna
construction and modelling because that will probably be all that I am able
to read. 73.

Ken Fowler, KO6NO

Ken Fowler wrote:
I hate to totally block people who arguably have some useful things to post
to the newsgroup. But the content on the thread about travelling waves
versus standing waves has become so dominated by one person that there is
no way to end it except by filtering all messages to
rec.radio.amateur.antennas to eliminate the dominant poster. So I have not
only blocked articles from his web site, I am blocking any article which
contains his name. So if you reply to him, I am sorry but I will not be
able to see your remarks. I know that no one is likely to lose any sleep
about my actions. From now on, I hope there will be articles about antenna
construction and modelling because that will probably be all that I am able
to read. 73.

Ken Fowler, KO6NO

Hello Ken,

From your comment, it appears that you
are seeing all new posts to the group in
chronological order. That can be very
frustrating.

You may not be aware that most
newsreaders will sort messages by thread
if so instructed. That way an entire
thread consisting of even thousands of
posts will appear in your newsreader as
a single header (unexpanded). There are
usually no more than a few new threads
per day on the newsgroup so you can
choose which threads you want to follow
without seeing any posts to the threads
that don't interest you. Sort of like
scanning the headlines. When you see a
thread of interest, you can expand it
and see the headers of all the posts in
that thread.

You can't control which threads are
posted to the newsgroup, but you can
make it easier to read only those that
interest you.

73,
Chuck
NT3G

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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:55:45 -0500, "AI4QJ" wrote:


......
He does noy use a normal 'newsreader'
like most usenet vets are using.

And if he doesn't, we (at least I) can live with that.


w.

On Dec 31, 5:06*am, Helmut Wabnig hwabnig@ .- --- -. DOT .- t wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:55:45 -0500, "AI4QJ" wrote:
......
He does noy use a normal 'newsreader'
like most usenet vets are using.

And if he doesn't, we (at least I) can live with that.

w.

So that means we need to filter him....

denny

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 04:09:35 -0800 (PST), Denny
wrote:

On Dec 31, 5:06*am, Helmut Wabnig hwabnig@ .- --- -. DOT .- t wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:55:45 -0500, "AI4QJ" wrote:
......
He does noy use a normal 'newsreader'
like most usenet vets are using.

And if he doesn't, we (at least I) can live with that.

w.

So that means we need to filter him....

Well, it means that it is useless to complain about uselessnet,
aka usenet.
w.

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 01:55:25 GMT, Ken Fowler wrote:
I hate to totally block people who arguably have some useful things to post
to the newsgroup. But the content on the thread about travelling waves
versus standing waves has become so dominated by one person that there is
no way to end it except by filtering all messages to
rec.radio.amateur.antennas to eliminate the dominant poster. So I have not
only blocked articles from his web site, I am blocking any article which
contains his name.

So if you reply to him, I am sorry but I will not be
able to see your remarks.

And, _that_ would be a Great Loss .... how?


Using a Real Newsreader, you could block by Subject: (as well as by
poster.) I find that even before I read a new troll posting, it is
_easily_ identifiable by both Subject: content and poster id. I mark it
for killing (by Subject for nn days and never have to encounter
anything in that thread again. Some logic if the poster is killfiled
here and I don't see the Subject: until the first followup to the troll.


Sigh. Over the years this Once Great ng covering antennas has been
slowly overtaken by a handful of twits.

Jonesy
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"Chuck" wrote in message
...
Ken Fowler wrote:
I hate to totally block people who arguably have some useful things to
snip

Hello Ken,

From your comment, it appears that you are seeing all new posts to the
group in chronological order. That can be very frustrating.

snip
You may not be aware that most newsreaders will sort messages by thread
snip
You can't control which threads are posted to the newsgroup, but you
can
make it easier to read only those that interest you.

It appears that his source is http://www.giganews.com which is web based.

They probably have options for sorting by date, thread etc. I think you
are
correct. He should structure his viewing on giganews in such as a way as
to
only view the threads of interest. He does noy use a normal 'newsreader'
like most usenet vets are using.

For what it's worth, I use NewsRover to read news. GigaNews is only the
source. I' not sure what is a "normal newsreader". *nix people have their
favorites and google news people have no contro. I know how to use Outlook
but NewsRover gives me much more control. I can filter on header content
or message content in a variety of Boolean ways. I can also block senders
if the sender doesn't fake his post address.

If you don't know the capabilities of News Rover you can check it out on
SandH.com. It is as perfect at retrieving threads as a newsreader can be.
And yes, I can kill threads by subject if the authors don't keep messing
around with the Subject. In this case, the newsgroup was so dominated by a
single poster that blocking made more sense to me. So yes, I am
structuring my viewing so as to only see the threads of interest.

Now back to discussions about antennas. 73 and Happy New Year.

Ken

Sorry to top post (just wanted to get your attention), but while you're at
it, can you do anything about this M I-5 (& variations thereof). I've been
putting in message rules but they don't seem to work. Talk about abuse.

HankG
"Ken Fowler" wrote in message
...
I hate to totally block people who arguably have some useful things to
post
to the newsgroup. But the content on the thread about travelling waves
versus standing waves has become so dominated by one person that there is
no way to end it except by filtering all messages to
rec.radio.amateur.antennas to eliminate the dominant poster. So I have
not
only blocked articles from his web site, I am blocking any article which
contains his name. So if you reply to him, I am sorry but I will not be
able to see your remarks. I know that no one is likely to lose any sleep
about my actions. From now on, I hope there will be articles about
antenna
construction and modelling because that will probably be all that I am
able
to read. 73.

Ken Fowler, KO6NO

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:14:38 -0500, HankG wrote:
Sorry to top post (just wanted to get your attention), but while you're at
it, can you do anything about this M I-5 (& variations thereof). I've been
putting in message rules but they don't seem to work. Talk about abuse.

individual.net

The crap from _that particular_ slimeball rarely appears on their spools.

Ditto for the hipcrime slimeball, and numerous others.

Jonesy

On Dec 30, 5:55*pm, "Ken Fowler" wrote:
I hate to totally block people who arguably have some useful things to post
to the newsgroup. *But the content on the thread about travelling waves
versus standing waves has become so dominated by one person that there is
no way to end it except by filtering all messages to
rec.radio.amateur.antennas to eliminate the dominant poster. *So I have not
only blocked articles from his web site, I am blocking any article which
contains his name. *So if you reply to him, I am sorry but I will not be
able to see your remarks. *I know that no one is likely to lose any sleep
about my actions. *From now on, I hope there will be articles about antenna
construction and modelling because that will probably be all that I am able
to read. *73.

Ken Fowler, KO6NO

Ken
You have a direct line with Yahoo who aids and abets kb9...
If they don't care who they support then drop them.
Yahoo is probably happy with what their customers are doing
on the net. Ofcourse if MI5 can't get the other guy write
a letter to the CIA they would know what to do.
Art