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Gentlemen
Radio is about fields , waves, inductors e.t.c and diamagnetic materials which does not include iron.! So to refer to the magnetic field of iron has nothing to do with radio. For antennas we use diamagnetic materials which have a skin. None of these, when a current is passed thru them ,allows a field to be formed on the inside like a iron magnet ! So gentlemen, get back to basics and review what a field looks like under these circumstances. I am not going to tell you because your niche in life is to argue, so check things out for yourself. Think academicaly or in a scientific fashion instead of CB ers And another thing. All laws are bound to the focal point of equilibrium. When there is not a state of equilibrium you have varying waves which do not appear when equilibrium is present. So be specific if you are refering to a non equilibrium status since all laws must be modified to account for this. Otherwise, your debates will go on for years and years and years without closure Art Unwin KB9MZ......xg(uk) |
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On 6 Jan, 11:01, art wrote:
Gentlemen Radio is about fields , waves, inductors e.t.c and diamagnetic materials which does not include iron.! So to refer to the magnetic field of iron has nothing to do with radio. For antennas we use diamagnetic materials which have a skin. None of these, when a current is passed thru them ,allows a field to be formed on the inside like a iron magnet ! So gentlemen, get back to basics and review what a field looks like under these circumstances. I am not going to tell you because your niche in life is to argue, so check things out for yourself. * *Think academicaly or in a scientific fashion instead of CB ers And another thing. All laws are bound to the focal point of equilibrium. When there is not a state of equilibrium you have varying waves which do not appear when equilibrium is present. So be specific if you are refering to a non equilibrium status since all laws must be modified to account for this. Otherwise, your debates will go on for years and years and years without closure Art Unwin KB9MZ......xg(uk) Seems like the people on this side of the pond only got educated to the level of their professors. So guys listen up. When a current flows in a piece of iron it exhibites a field that is representive of the north and south pole. Iron is referred to as a ferrite matererial. When a current passes over a diamagnetic material the field is representitive of a diamatic pole within the earth. This pole is at a different angle to the ferrite pole and is also quite weak. It is readily seen in action with a pendulum as it induces a curve to its movement as it goes backwards and forwards. It moves more erraticall when a eclipse occurs because tho the action tho weak is enhanced the ferrite pole from out space is somewhat shielded and thus magnifies the identification of the diamagnetic anti gravity forces. This anti gravitational force can also create levitation, but is really known as the offcenter force of our earth that turns the earth around. Now if you review the Corriolis effect or the Casmire effect you will see that these are the effect created by poles other that that of ferrite. So now to a radio antenna. Surely you are aware that a capacitor discharge moves towards a inductive field where at the same time it sweeps up the static particles that have come to rest after entering th atsmosphere (predominately during the active sunspot cycle.) When the swarm or plasma cloud gets to the inductance it only accepts charged electrons to make up a field. This field is a antigravitational field that is oriented differently from a ferrite magnetic field. The field orientation thus guides what was the inate static particles into a curling action away from our antenna.This same action is in fact is called a curl vector when one determines the resultant vector of forces that emanate from a time varient field, which also is not parallel to the axis of the current flow. Remember that this multi particle sweeping action occurs a million times for each megacycle of operation so there is a constant series of pulses or plasma stream moving away from the antenna. Each of these particles placed a reactive force upon the antenna such that with the abundance of particles by virtue of the numourous samples supplied creates an occillating action on the radiator. This same sample of forces travels with the plasm until it finds a diamagnetic material that is resonant where it can impart the same occillatory movement on its new resting place. What is special about the resting place chosen is that only a dimagnetic material will allow these static particles to rest upon their surface, because all other materials have retained magnetic properties as seen when looking at a hysteresis curve. Now with respect to Amelia Erhardt and the Bermuda triangle. What I was ponting to was that the axis of the diagmatic pole could well lie on this very axis where the dimagnetic field would be quite a bit stronger than elsewhere. Put into place that both of these areas is surrounded by water which is also diamagnetic. Think then of a aeroplane made of aluminum enclosure that exihibits a shielding action as with a eclipse. Could not one wonder what could happen to a small ferrite sliver used in a compass when reacting to such circumstances especially when considering the universal square law? Would a few degrees of movement on a compass create a situation where a resulting course change would be made? I know this really has nothing to do with radiation but well.....you did ask. Don't take my word for all this . Investigate via Google on all the phenomina spoken of. Use a computor program with an optimiser and determine why the radiator is tipped away from being parallel to earth. Did equilibrium create an array where the radiators were closer to each other than a yagi? Check out where the gain difference comes from when radiators are stacked but with only one feed point. I could go on ofcourse,but I do recognise that old hams resist change so acceptance of the above is doomed. Cover the undeniable facts and kick Art from the group! Can't do that I keep going and going and.... Art Unwin KB9MZ.....XG (uk) |
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On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 13:19:41 -0800 (PST), Guru
read from scriptu Iron is referred to as a ferrite matererial. A Viking conceit of language when they stopped by to rape the Brits' women and shove an "isarno" sword into the men's guts. 1000 years before that, there was no iron anywhere, only ferrum. Of course, at that time Roman Legions were raping Viking women and shoving ferrous swords into the men's guts. The latin *******s swore to never utter the word ferrite ever again, and started making maps of small Atlantic islands where they could celebrate their new customs of population control. It is readily seen in action with a pendulum as it induces a curve to its movement as it goes backwards and forwards. That would have shocked Gauss who always thought that his beer buddy, Coriolis, described it to him in much different terms. Gauss was probably too drunk to correct him? As they had escaped both the Roman Legions and the Vikings, they were well known at the nearby Pub. It moves more erraticall when a eclipse occurs because tho the action tho weak is enhanced the ferrite pole from out space is somewhat shielded and thus magnifies the identification of the diamagnetic anti gravity forces. Emperor Ming the Merciless said as much to Flash Gordon. Dr. Flexi Cherkov was supposed to explain it better in the next episode, but I didn't have a nickel for that weekend's matinee. ;-( This anti gravitational force can also create levitation, but is really known as the offcenter force of our earth that turns the earth around. This was written in antiquity when Archimedes said "give me a lever long enough, and a fulcrum, and I bet I can sucker the taxman into giving me a pension to write about physics." Instead, Archimedes, Aristotle, and Aristophenes spent their social security checks at the Pub levitating beer for themselves and Gauss and some frog who could write his name in the snow by swinging his pendulum. (Alcohol enhances the diamagnetic effects of local eclipses. Many researchers confirm the earth spinning qualities of these tests.) Now if you review the Corriolis effect or the Casmire effect you will see that these are the effect created by poles other that that of ferrite. I just love Casmire, best song ever done by Diamagnetic Prophylactic (formerly Led Zeppelin)! when reacting to such circumstances especially when considering the universal square law? The universal cube law replaced that after the "Treaty of Near-Pi of 1927" in a convention at Berne Switzerland. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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On 6 Jan, 14:37, Richard Clark wrote:
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 13:19:41 -0800 (PST), Guru read from scriptu Iron is referred to as a ferrite matererial. A Viking conceit of language when they stopped by to rape the Brits' women and shove an "isarno" sword into the men's guts. *1000 years before that, there was no iron anywhere, only ferrum. *Of course, at that time Roman Legions were raping Viking women and shoving ferrous swords into the men's guts. *The latin *******s swore to never utter the word ferrite ever again, and started making maps of small Atlantic islands where they could celebrate their new customs of population control. It is readily seen in action with a pendulum as it induces a curve to its movement as it goes backwards and forwards. That would have shocked Gauss who always thought that his beer buddy, Coriolis, described it to him in much different terms. *Gauss was probably too drunk to correct him? *As they had escaped both the Roman Legions and the Vikings, they were well known at the nearby Pub. It moves more erraticall when a eclipse occurs because tho the action tho weak is enhanced the ferrite pole from out space is somewhat shielded and thus magnifies the identification of the diamagnetic anti gravity forces. Emperor Ming the Merciless said as much to Flash Gordon. *Dr. Flexi Cherkov was supposed to explain it better in the next episode, but I didn't have a nickel for that weekend's matinee. * ;-( This anti gravitational force can also create levitation, but is really known as the offcenter force of our earth that turns the earth around. This was written in antiquity when Archimedes said "give me a lever long enough, and a fulcrum, and I bet I can sucker the taxman into giving me a pension to write about physics." *Instead, Archimedes, Aristotle, and Aristophenes spent their social security checks at the Pub levitating beer for themselves and Gauss and some frog who could write his name in the snow by swinging his pendulum. *(Alcohol enhances the diamagnetic effects of local eclipses. *Many researchers confirm the earth spinning qualities of these tests.) Now if you review the Corriolis effect or the Casmire effect you will see that these are the effect created by poles other that that of ferrite. I just love Casmire, best song ever done by Diamagnetic Prophylactic (formerly Led Zeppelin)! when reacting to such circumstances especially when considering the universal square law? The universal cube law replaced that after the "Treaty of Near-Pi of 1927" in a convention at Berne Switzerland. * 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC Typical of the three Richards, no content on antennas because his degree was in English thus is lost with physics and old history like Terman and his experience is a sailor scrubbing the decks. Enjoy an evening with your male masculane males or what ever they are called until you can stand no more and fall asleep in their arms Art |
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On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 15:31:08 -0800 (PST), art
wrote: Enjoy an evening with your male masculane males or what ever they are called Prior Art, And you can't get anyone else to respond to your notices except from someone like you describe above? Both you and Cecil seem to jump for the TNT Suicide vest every time so you can hug me with more passion. XOXOXOX 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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On 6 Jan, 17:04, Richard Clark wrote:
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 15:31:08 -0800 (PST), art wrote: Enjoy an evening with your male masculane males or what ever they are called Prior Art, And you can't get anyone else to respond to your notices except from someone like you describe above? *Both you and Cecil seem to jump for the TNT Suicide vest every time so you can hug me with more passion. XOXOXOX 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC I am looking for educated discussion not handwaving. I know you are incapable of providing anything of a related matter as does the rest of the newsgroup.Go back underground wearing your fish net tights for your jollies |
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On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 17:15:03 -0800 (PST), art
wrote: On 6 Jan, 17:04, Richard Clark wrote: On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 15:31:08 -0800 (PST), art wrote: Enjoy an evening with your male masculane males or what ever they are called Prior Art, And you can't get anyone else to respond to your notices except from someone like you describe above? *Both you and Cecil seem to jump for the TNT Suicide vest every time so you can hug me with more passion. XOXOXOX 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC I am looking for educated discussion not handwaving. I know you are incapable of providing anything of a related matter as does the rest of the newsgroup.Go back underground wearing your fish net tights for your jollies Your TNT vest appears to be quite tightly laced up. Cutting off circulation is it? I don't think many here are interested your side topic choice of underwear. Seems like a pattern in educated discussion is converging on the reality that there isn't much educated topic here in the first place - and that is how we got into this waltz. Is your dance card empty? 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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Gentlemen, can we please switch from channel 14 protocol and get it back to
75 meters? 73 Russ And you can't get anyone else to respond to your notices except from someone like you describe above? Both you and Cecil seem to jump for the TNT Suicide vest every time so you can hug me with more passion. XOXOXOX 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC I am looking for educated discussion not handwaving. I know you are incapable of providing anything of a related matter as does the rest of the newsgroup.Go back underground wearing your fish net tights for your jollies |
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AI4QJ wrote:
"art" wrote in message ... Gentlemen Radio is about fields , waves, inductors e.t.c and diamagnetic materials which does not include iron.! So to refer to the magnetic field of iron has nothing to do with radio. For antennas we use diamagnetic materials which have a skin. None of these, when a current is passed thru them ,allows a field to be formed on the inside like a iron magnet ! So gentlemen, get back to basics and review what a field looks like under these circumstances. I am not going to tell you because your niche in life is to argue, so check things out for yourself. Think academicaly or in a scientific fashion instead of CB ers And another thing. All laws are bound to the focal point of equilibrium. When there is not a state of equilibrium you have varying waves which do not appear when equilibrium is present. So be specific if you are refering to a non equilibrium status since all laws must be modified to account for this. Otherwise, your debates will go on for years and years and years without closure Art Unwin KB9MZ......xg(uk) The casual reader of the ng should realize that this insane posting is not representative of the technical background of ham radio operators. The repetitive nature, and lack of a credible argument, of this post is duly noted. 73, KA6RUH |
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