I just looked the above title up on Google
Guess what! They show a graph of the magnetic wave
in a tipped manner which is exactly what computor programs show for a
radiator
in equilibrium. Shades of a diamagnetic field no less, which is not
the same as one seen when one uses non diamagnetic iron filings when
in junior high school.
These search engines are great since the evidence keeps piling up
where sooner or later the dam is going to break.Remember that guy who
came along with a NEC program that confirmed the tipped radiator. No
body challenged the results of NEC even when it opposed existing book
text! Why? They did not want to suggest that the books were in error
and thus would not debate the reults given independently.
Art

"art" wrote
I just looked the above title up on Google
Guess what! They show a graph of the magnetic wave
in a tipped manner which is exactly what computor programs show for a
radiator in equilibrium.
______

"art"

I decided to try your search method, which returned about 363,000 hits.

If you want to prove your belief, you would do well to post the URL
to whatever website(s) you claim will do so.

RF

On 7 Jan, 15:20, "Richard Fry" wrote:
"art" wrote I just looked the above title up on Google
Guess what! They show a graph of the magnetic wave
in a tipped manner which is exactly what computor programs show for a
radiator in equilibrium.

______

"art"

I decided to try your search method, which returned about 363,000 hits.

If you want to prove your belief, you would do well to post the URL
to whatever website(s) you claim will do so.

RF

Yes, that would help if hams were intersted but they are not.They do
not agree that a diamagnetic field is different to any other field and
the ham radio books will not tell them otherwise. Look at the simple
math of adding a time varient field to Gaussian law makes it exactly
the same as Maxwells law.but hams will not accept the math. Is it any
wonder that manufacturers are going overseas for engineers because
american education is one of rote. If you add up the post graduates
working on research at any american university foreign graduates out
number american students. Micro soft wants more engineers , not from
America tho. As far as the URL it was the first one on the list If
hams were interested in ham radio for other than only talking they
would have no problem finding it. Fact is that they have no idea what
a diamagnetic material actualy is or why they should care. I doubt
that it is even mentioned anywhere by the ARRL.I wonder why you are
checking things out,as an engineer you should be aware of the facts
already.Not one ham on this newsgroup could verfy the shape of a
diamagnetic
field wth respect to current flow. Yet all consider themselves as
competant enough to describe a bouncing wave even tho they don't know
the qualities required for a radiation material.
Art

Art wrote:
"I wonder why you are checking things out, as an engineer you should be
aware of facts already."

A fact is a reality. An opinion lacking credible testimony is not a
proven fact.

Wave tilt is a known phenomenon. A wave traveling along the surface of
the earth is slightly slowed by the earth, so it seems to tilt slightly
in its direction of travel, like "dragging its feet".

A wave reflected by grazing a surface has an angle of reflection equal
to its angle of incidence. An incoming wave reflected by the ionosphere
has a tilt with respect to the horizontal.

A Beverage antenna can be as simple as a wire supported at low altitude
above the earth, and a seeming paradox is that although horizontal, the
wire is sensitive to vertically polarized waves. Despite Art`s
questioning that hams would know about wave tilt, an ARRL publication,
ON4UN`s "Low-Band DXing", begins its chapter on Special Receiving
Antennas with the Beverage.

Most engineers in this newsgroup are well aware of the facts needed in
their profession. One particular mechanical engineer is claiming new
discoveries without sufficient supporting information.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

On 7 Jan, 19:23, (Richard Harrison) wrote:
Art wrote:

"I wonder why you are checking things out, as an engineer you should be
aware of facts already."

A fact is a reality. An opinion lacking credible testimony is not a
proven fact.

Wave tilt is a known phenomenon. A wave traveling along the surface of
the earth is slightly slowed by the earth, so it seems to tilt slightly
in its direction of travel, like "dragging its feet".

A wave reflected by grazing a surface has an angle of reflection equal
to its angle of incidence. An incoming wave reflected by the ionosphere
has a tilt with respect to the horizontal.

A Beverage antenna can be as simple as a wire supported at low altitude
above the earth, and a seeming paradox is that although horizontal, the
wire is sensitive to vertically polarized waves. Despite Art`s
questioning that hams would know about wave tilt, an ARRL publication,
ON4UN`s "Low-Band DXing", begins its chapter on Special Receiving
Antennas with the Beverage.

Most engineers in this newsgroup are well aware of the facts needed in
their profession. One particular mechanical engineer is claiming new
discoveries without sufficient supporting information.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

I understand that a diamagnetic field is oriented differently to the
norm
Thus a diamagnetic field on a radiator is different to the norm.
This I see as the lynch pin of radiation. Hams do not recognise what
science has found for some reason. There is not a physics based ham on
the group that will explain this type of field
and it was not known by Terman so the dark ages persist. Also I claim
no new discoveries. Every thing I have described is documented on
Google which you do not have the ability to check out....Tough.You
don't know how to use an antenna computor program so you can't see
tilt for your self. You are in sad shape.If you can point to anything
that I stated is NOT fact
then speak up with the details and share with the group

Most engineers in this newsgroup are well aware of the facts needed in
their profession. One particular mechanical engineer is claiming new
discoveries without sufficient supporting information.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI


I will be more blunt.
Art with his crap about stupid hams, lousy education system in US and other
incoherent rants here and on eHam is poor picture of Ham and nuisance troll
that is so "brilliant" that can't even spell or use proper words for things.
I was hoping to spot a grain of something that perhaps would lead to
something new or something that we overlooked, but the cup has spilled over
with crap and mumbo jumbo and time to ignore anything that is coming out of
"art".
Sayonara, plonk!!!


bada BUm

art wrote:

...
Art

When I fire up my rig, the one composed of an electric motor
(constructed with recovered metal from the Roswell crash) spinning at
1,000,000 R.P.S., with the neodymium magnet attached to the shaft--what
do you thing the wave(s) look like? How are protons being released from
the static field of the magnets poles? Can't the need for a media
(properties of which are unknown/unexplored) which can be "excited" be
easily visualized?

Warm regards,
JS

On 8 Jan, 10:33, John Smith wrote:
art wrote:

* ...

Art

snip
Warm regards,
JS

http://www.sensormag.com/articles/0301/30/main.shtml

Hopefully this url will get you to what I want you to read.
Read, think for your self and then decide why the use of
aluminium is relavent to our hobby. I have also placed an
abstract on the forming of radiation on E Ham forum to get
as wide a distribution as I could. Hopefully this will a new
beginning for ham radio. Also get an optimiser computor
program to obtain the tipping angle of a radiator for your self.
Google for information every time you are unsure. For goodness
sake don't guess but follow the lead of present day science.
Somebody will burst out without reading or thinking.
Is that person going to be you?
Very best regards
Art Unwin.....KB9MZ.....XG (uk)

art wrote:

...
http://www.sensormag.com/articles/0301/30/main.shtml

Hopefully this url will get you to what I want you to read.

Art Unwin.....KB9MZ.....XG (uk)

I would be more than willing to read it, as with most, however, that
page, in my browser, results in an 404 error (page not found) and a
redirect to this page:

http://www.motionnet.com/

Which is a rip off ...

Regards,
JS

On 8 Jan, 17:57, John Smith wrote:
art wrote:
...
http://www.sensormag.com/articles/0301/30/main.shtml

Hopefully this url will get you to what I want you to read.
Art Unwin.....KB9MZ.....XG (uk)

I would be more than willing to read it, as with most, however, that
page, in my browser, results in an 404 error (page not found) and a
redirect to this page:

http://www.motionnet.com/

Which is a rip off ...

Regards,
JS

I'm sorry. I did the best I could. I am not computor savvy as you are
Again apologies
Art