In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Richard The Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 05:23:33 -0500, ml wrote:

in feb it will switch to digital however shall still be free

Until you get to the requirement to line the pockets of the converter
hawkers.

Thanks,
Rich

The converter boxes are essentially free with the coupon and you get two
of them.

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Richard The Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:17:44 -0800, Richard Clark wrote:
So, what is the big deal?

Being required to turn over my hard-earned cash to further enrich the
rich fat white executives.

After the $40 free coupon, the DTV converter box costs
$10. If you skip three Whoppers, you've got the money
and are a healthier human being to boot. :-)
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"Dave" wrote in message
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The FCC and the TV broadcasters looked the other way because there is no
evidence that such activity has ever caused any interference. I can get 6
microphones to work in an occupied analog TV channel and neither notices the
other.

OK. I don't have a big problem with folks using frequencies they're not
assigned when there isn't an interference issue, although I also don't have a
whole lot of sympathy for those same folks if one day they *are* interfered
with by assigned users.

The TV Band Devices the FCC has recently begun the process of authorizing
are way more damaging than a 50 mW 65 kHz deviation FM signal.

What are the power levels? Presumably the occupied spectrum is potentially
many tens of MHz?

Luckily, these devices will not be allowed anywhere near where I work. The
FCC has banned them from the 13 biggest cities, and from within a kilometer
of a venue or stadium using wireless microphones. The proposed rules do not
require a Part 74 license for these protections.

If these are consumer-type devices, realistically how will the FCC stop their
use in those 13 cities? It'll be like GMRS where technically everyone's
supposed to be licensed yet, in actuality, I imagine that well under 1% of the
actual users a If the consumer can buy a radio off-the-shop at Wal*Mart,
there'll use it wherever they want, regardless of what FCC rules say.

---Joel

Is someone holding a gun on you? It's no different than "being forced" to
buy a TV. You can always do what I do and don't watch. TV is the greatest
time waster invented by man.

"Richard The Dreaded Libertarian" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:17:44 -0800, Richard Clark wrote:

So, what is the big deal?

Being required to turn over my hard-earned cash to further enrich the
rich fat white executives.

Thanks,
Rich

In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Cecil Moore wrote:
Richard The Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:17:44 -0800, Richard Clark wrote:
So, what is the big deal?

Being required to turn over my hard-earned cash to further enrich the
rich fat white executives.

After the $40 free coupon, the DTV converter box costs
$10. If you skip three Whoppers, you've got the money
and are a healthier human being to boot. :-)

There are several outfits with converter boxes for $40.01, which makes
your cost 1 cent.


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"Rich Grise" wrote in message
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:07:35 -0800, Chuck Olson wrote:
"Rich Grise" wrote in message

Or, does anyone have a UHF-TV log-periodic design that they'd share? :-)

Lo and behold, here is one http://tinyurl.com/665r5a but it's a
throw-back
to a simpler time when the HP42S calculator was an engineer's prized
tool.
If you have a 42S, punch it in and use it. Otherwise, this is mainly a
learning tool to show how simple the calculations are. I think this
design
could be put onto a Lotus123 calculating spread sheet where all the
output
data windows would suddenly by filled up upon entering the needed input
data.

Too late! I've already built the 4-bay bowtie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWQhlmJTMzw

But I used ER70S-2 1/16 weld filler rod (stiffer than a coathanger, and
copper-plated; solders like a dream):
http://mysite.verizon.net/richgrise/...QuadBowTie.jpg

And it works just spiffy! I had to go to Whittier Electronics to get
the balun, since RS seems to have dropped them from their line-up:
http://www.whittierelectronics.com/

It was $2.99; the rest of the antenna was free. :-)
(yes, I'm really that broke. )-; )

Thanks,
Rich

Thanks, Rich - - it looks great. I'm going to try putting one together,
too - - the phased quad bow-tie is very popular so it must be a good
performer. And the price is right.

Chuck

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:15:01 +0000, jimp wrote:

There are several outfits with converter boxes for $40.01, which makes
your cost 1 cent.

WHERE???????????!!!

Thanks,
Rich

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:06:45 -0800, CW wrote:

Is someone holding a gun on you? It's no different than "being forced" to
buy a TV.

You don't have to if you know where to dumpster-dive.

You can always do what I do and don't watch.

I hate self-righteous peopoe almost as much as I hate rap.

Thanks,
Rich

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:49:26 GMT, Richard The Dreaded Libertarian
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:17:44 -0800, Richard Clark wrote:

So, what is the big deal?

Being required to turn over my hard-earned cash to further enrich the
rich fat white executives.

Required? You've been lined up against the wall for a shakedown so
you can watch TV? With porn free on the Internet, the only successful
economic model is they pay you to watch Digital TV for FREE! And they
DO!

I think Madison avenue would have those rich fat white executives
gutted (too slow to move anyway - are you talking about AIG or the
Paleolithic RNC?) before their hooves clattered halfway down the alley
you've been suckered into.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Rich Grise wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:15:01 +0000, jimp wrote:

There are several outfits with converter boxes for $40.01, which makes
your cost 1 cent.

WHERE???????????!!!

Thanks,
Rich

Google search for HDTV converter leads to sites with price comparisons.

My coupons are due any day and I was price shopping.


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