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Art Unwin wrote:
Outch How can I be so wrong? I will blame it on my poor memory.


http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/Y2...neticfield.htm

Scroll down toward the bottom of the page to see what a pole
reversal in progress might look like.

http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/nmp/northpole_e.php

"The North Magnetic Pole is slowly drifting across the Canadian
Arctic. ... The most recent survey, completed in May, 2001,
determined an updated position for the Pole and established that
it is moving approximately northwest at 40 km per year."
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Art Unwin wrote:
On Jan 14, 8:47 pm, "David G. Nagel"
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Dave wrote:
Art Unwin wrote:
Remember that it is predicted that our world will flip with respect to
the poles
thus the zenith of sun spots will alter by eleven years. Best to learn
to swim before that happens. Last thing I heard was the magnetic pole
was in Siberia and still going away. Hopefully there is
still time for the poles to change their minds and return.
Art
Art
The Earth's magnetic field does not affect when sunspots happen.

Actually the northern magnetic pole is in Eastern Northern Canada and
progressing slowly eastward.


.................................................. ..

Outch How can I be so wrong? I will blame it on my poor memory.
I thought its position was in the area of the Berring sea straights
heading for
Siberia. Could it be Mrs Palin who said she could see it from her
house in Alaska
which is America's NORTH WEST coast. If you feel it is positioned
between Canada and Greenland more power to you !
Art

.................................................. .....
The current sunspot cycle is merely slow in appearing. The 11 year cycle
is only an average. Some cycles are less than 11 yrs and some are longer.

Dave



Hay Art. They say the memory is the second thing to go, I forget what is
first. HI HI

The following is from Wikipedia:
In 2001, the North Magnetic Pole was determined by the Geological Survey
of Canada to lie near Ellesmere Island in northern Canada at [show
location on an interactive map] 81°18?N 110°48?W? / ?81.3, -110.8?
(Magnetic North Pole 2001). It was estimated to be at [show location on
an interactive map] 82°42?N 114°24?W? / ?82.7, -114.4? (Magnetic North
Pole 2005 est) in 2005.

There is a URL link in the actual Wiki listing showing where the mag
poles are located. Please refer to Wiki for this information.
I hope you have a Happy New Year.

Dave
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"ml" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Ed Cregger" wrote:

"Michael Coslo" wrote in message
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Ed Cregger wrote:

That has been on my mind also. We do having a significant slowing of
the
current known as the Atlantic Conveyor over the last several years.
That
does not bode well for Europe/England just by itself.

I was looking forward to one more active sunspot cycle before I died
(I'm
a six meter fan), but it doesn't appear that we are going to have one,
if
present trends continue.

Of course, just when you think you have Mother Nature all figured
out -
she comes out of left field with some new phenomenon that catches us
by
surprise. For instance, the Yellowstone super caldera. If that were to
erupt, it would mean an Ice Age for sure. Or would it?


Anyone keeping tabs on the earthquake activity in Yellowstone?


http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/yvo/




- 73 de Mike N3LI -


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Somewhat. That would definitely bring on an Ice Age, should it have a
full
scale eruption. Never a boring moment.

Ed, N2ECW


sigh, like many i've been waiting for the bands to come alive and
start jumping

hopfully it's just a bit of a delay and not a way way long term wait

but i guess the only thing worse then many more years of dead bands
would be for the world to end egads if that happens i can always
do EME but its not the same


------------

I'm with you. I don't want our present civilization to collapse either.

Will the Sun bounce back to normal? Some say it isn't truly abnormal yet.
Me, I don't know the answer, but I'm running out of time, as are we all. I'd
like for this Cycle to come forth and provide we amateur radio ops with some
good six meter propagation. It could happen.

Ed, N2ECW


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"Ed Cregger" wrote in message
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... I'm running out of time, as are we all. I'd
like for this Cycle to come forth ...


I'll be 66 in a few weeks. If I have to wait for Cycle 25 to peak, that'll
put me beyond 80. But even with poor propagation, it's never zero,
especially on 20m and below, so I do what I can.

I enjoyed a few days of good propagation on 10m last year and I worked into
South America barefoot. The antenna was a dipole made of TV antenna
elements bolted together and laying on the garage roof. Really.


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"Sal M. Onella" wrote in message
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"Ed Cregger" wrote in message
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... I'm running out of time, as are we all. I'd
like for this Cycle to come forth ...


I'll be 66 in a few weeks. If I have to wait for Cycle 25 to peak,
that'll
put me beyond 80. But even with poor propagation, it's never zero,
especially on 20m and below, so I do what I can.

I enjoyed a few days of good propagation on 10m last year and I worked
into
South America barefoot. The antenna was a dipole made of TV antenna
elements bolted together and laying on the garage roof. Really.



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I understand your thought, Sam. And you are right. Make do with what you
have and have a great time anyway.

Ed, N2ECW




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Sal M. Onella wrote:
But even with poor propagation, it's never zero,
especially on 20m and below, so I do what I can.


Back around 1700, when there were no sunspots, there
were also no ham QSOs. :-)
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"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
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Sal M. Onella wrote:
But even with poor propagation, it's never zero,
especially on 20m and below, so I do what I can.


Back around 1700, when there were no sunspots, there
were also no ham QSOs. :-)
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LOL Thanks.


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On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:47:06 -0600, "David G. Nagel"
wrote:

Dave wrote:
Art Unwin wrote:


Remember that it is predicted that our world will flip with respect to
the poles
thus the zenith of sun spots will alter by eleven years. Best to learn
to swim before that happens. Last thing I heard was the magnetic pole
was in Siberia and still going away. Hopefully there is
still time for the poles to change their minds and return.
Art
Art


The Earth's magnetic field does not affect when sunspots happen.

Actually the northern magnetic pole is in Eastern Northern Canada and
progressing slowly eastward.

The current sunspot cycle is merely slow in appearing. The 11 year cycle
is only an average. Some cycles are less than 11 yrs and some are longer.

Dave


Actually there are a lot of solar cycles, 7 year, 11 year, 13 year,
and more. Not all have much to do with sunspots though. One is
correlated with human heartbeat for no reasonable reason.

A planetary magnetic minimum may produce much higher ionization in the
ionosphere. No bets on any of this, just wild speculation.

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