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Can someone please confirm or deny the following arguments.
Let us have: - a transmitting system operating at any given frequency - and a metal bar, located far away from the transmitter, whose electrical length is exactly half wavelength at the operating frequency. An induced RF current will flow in the bar. Such RF current causes a re-radiated field which adds up to the field generated by the trasmitter. Two questions: - which are the amplitude and phase shift of the re-radiated field with respect to those of the field generated by the trasmitter? My instinctive answer would be same amplitude (in absence of ohmic losses) and 180 degrees. The total field (transmitted + re-radiated) at the metal bar would so be zero. - how does the total field change moving away from the bar? I would say that while the field generated by the transmitter varies very slowly with the distance from the bar (the transmitter is assumed to be very far away), the re-radiated field varies fast (also because one would initially be in the near field). In conclusion, the more we move away from the bar, the lower is the contribution of the re-radiated field to the total field. That should be the reason why, in a Yagi antenna, a parasitic element cannot be put too far away from the driven element. Thanks and 73 Tony I0JX |
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![]() "Antonio Vernucci" wrote in message .. . Can someone please confirm or deny the following arguments. Let us have: - a transmitting system operating at any given frequency - and a metal bar, located far away from the transmitter, whose electrical length is exactly half wavelength at the operating frequency. An induced RF current will flow in the bar. Such RF current causes a re-radiated field which adds up to the field generated by the trasmitter. Two questions: - which are the amplitude and phase shift of the re-radiated field with respect to those of the field generated by the trasmitter? My instinctive answer would be same amplitude (in absence of ohmic losses) and 180 degrees. The total field (transmitted + re-radiated) at the metal bar would so be zero. - how does the total field change moving away from the bar? I would say that while the field generated by the transmitter varies very slowly with the distance from the bar (the transmitter is assumed to be very far away), the re-radiated field varies fast (also because one would initially be in the near field). In conclusion, the more we move away from the bar, the lower is the contribution of the re-radiated field to the total field. That should be the reason why, in a Yagi antenna, a parasitic element cannot be put too far away from the driven element. Thanks and 73 Tony I0JX Sounds about right. The electric field tangential to (i.e. parallel and close to) the surface of a good conductor must be small, otherwise a current would flow in the conductor which would tend to 'short out' the E-field, but an electric field normal to a conducting surface can have any value ... of course. A short conducting bar, rotating about an axis normal to its length, can be used to measure the radiation pattern of a large antenna by transmitting through the antenna and inspecting the signal reflected back down its feeder. Interestingly, even a matched dipole antenna re-radiates a signal - the amount of power 'dissipated' in its radiation resistance. This is mentioned in Kraus 'Antennas'. Chris |
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![]() "Antonio Vernucci" wrote in message .. . Can someone please confirm or deny the following arguments. Let us have: - a transmitting system operating at any given frequency - and a metal bar, located far away from the transmitter, whose electrical length is exactly half wavelength at the operating frequency. An induced RF current will flow in the bar. Such RF current causes a re-radiated field which adds up to the field generated by the trasmitter. Two questions: - which are the amplitude and phase shift of the re-radiated field with respect to those of the field generated by the trasmitter? My instinctive answer would be same amplitude (in absence of ohmic losses) and 180 degrees. The total field (transmitted + re-radiated) at the metal bar would so be zero. - how does the total field change moving away from the bar? I would say that while the field generated by the transmitter varies very slowly with the distance from the bar (the transmitter is assumed to be very far away), the re-radiated field varies fast (also because one would initially be in the near field). In conclusion, the more we move away from the bar, the lower is the contribution of the re-radiated field to the total field. That should be the reason why, in a Yagi antenna, a parasitic element cannot be put too far away from the driven element. Thanks and 73 Tony I0JX sounds like you have the right instincts to me. |
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