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I'd like to make a steal hex beam antenna for 17 and 15 meters, maybe even
20 meters. My goal is to make it is invisible as possible. Is there any
ideas of what type of support poles that would be the lightest? Maybe
croppy fishing poles? I'm even thinking of putting this antenna up when I
use and and then bring it down in between days when I do not operate.

Your suggestions are appreciated.

Thank you.


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Eternal September Newsgroups wrote:
I'd like to make a steal hex beam antenna for 17 and 15 meters, maybe even
20 meters. My goal is to make it is invisible as possible. Is there any
ideas of what type of support poles that would be the lightest? Maybe
croppy fishing poles? I'm even thinking of putting this antenna up when I
use and and then bring it down in between days when I do not operate.

Your suggestions are appreciated.

Thank you.


Here's a 20 through 6 meter kit that weighs about 26 lb total.

http://www.mgs4u.com/hexbeam-kit.htm


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Jim Pennino

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On Mar 16, 1:51*pm, "Eternal September Newsgroups"
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I'd like to make a steal hex beam antenna for 17 and 15 meters, maybe even
20 meters.


IMO, it is much easier to make a stealth vertically polarized phased
array than try to do it with horizontal elements. Two or three
flagpoles come to mind.
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On Mar 16, 6:51*pm, "Eternal September Newsgroups"
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I'd like to make a steal hex beam antenna for 17 and 15 meters, maybe even
20 meters. *My goal is to make it is invisible as possible. *Is there any
ideas of what type of support poles that would be the lightest? *Maybe
croppy fishing poles? *I'm even thinking of putting this antenna up when I
use and and then bring it down in between days when I do not operate.

Your suggestions are appreciated.

Thank you.


My 5-band (20m thru 10m) hexbeams typically weigh in at around13lbs;
this is the weight budget:

Fishing pole spreaders (6 needed): 0.89lbs
1/4" aluminium baseplate: 1.4lbs
Spreader support tubes and fixing bolts (6 needed): 0.38lbs
Baseplate-mast fixing bracket (2 needed): 0.54lbs
Fibreglass Centre Post: 1.4lbs
Wire (5 bands): 2.2lbs

Measured Total: 13.17lbs

73,
Steve G3TXQ
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On Mar 16, 1:51*pm, "Eternal September Newsgroups"
wrote:
I'd like to make a steal hex beam antenna for 17 and 15 meters, maybe even
20 meters. *My goal is to make it is invisible as possible. *Is there any
ideas of what type of support poles that would be the lightest? *Maybe
croppy fishing poles? *I'm even thinking of putting this antenna up when I
use and and then bring it down in between days when I do not operate.

Your suggestions are appreciated.

Thank you.


For easy setup and take down, maybe consider a
No Counterpoise Antenna
http://www.outsideshack.com/no_counterpoise_phased_array.pdf
73....Walter - K5EST


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"steveeh131047" wrote in message
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My 5-band (20m thru 10m) hexbeams typically weigh in at around13lbs;
this is the weight budget:

Fishing pole spreaders (6 needed): 0.89lbs
1/4" aluminium baseplate: 1.4lbs
Spreader support tubes and fixing bolts (6 needed): 0.38lbs
Baseplate-mast fixing bracket (2 needed): 0.54lbs
Fibreglass Centre Post: 1.4lbs
Wire (5 bands): 2.2lbs

Measured Total: 13.17lbs

73,
Steve G3TXQ



Steve, What type of fishing pole's do you use for the spreaders? Are they
crappie poles? Also, what length are they?

Thank you and thanks to all who have replied. Your help and suggestions are
all appreciated!



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On Mar 17, 4:26*pm, "Eternal September Newsgroups"
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Steve, *What type of fishing pole's do you use for the spreaders? *Are they
crappie poles? Also, what length are they?


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Cecil Moore wrote:
On Mar 16, 1:51 pm, "Eternal September Newsgroups"
wrote:
I'd like to make a steal hex beam antenna for 17 and 15 meters, maybe even
20 meters.


IMO, it is much easier to make a stealth vertically polarized phased
array than try to do it with horizontal elements. Two or three
flagpoles come to mind.
--
73, Cecil, w5dxp.com


the problem is that even a fairly low horizontally polarized antenna
will do better than a vertically polarized antenna because of the ground
reflection helping the H-pol.

At a simple level, you start with the array pattern multiplied by the
element pattern, and if the element pattern starts out a couple dB down,
it's hard to make up the difference.

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