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Is there a shortage in the supply of coax ? A ham up the road has been
trying to get some rg8x from The Wireman for a couple of weeks. They are out and said they should have some in soon. There was also some mention of shortage of the open wire\twinlead type. Is it just this place or is there some shortage in the US of coax and antena wire. What about the other coax such as the rg8 size ? |
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Ralph Mowery wrote:
Is there a shortage in the supply of coax ? Yes, but all is not lost. You need to get the newst Ham in the neighborhood and send him out for a coax stretcher. They come in handy from time to time. I have to admit I never found one in my neighborhood - but all the Hams were very helpful and thought they knew who might be able to help me, and sent me off to the person. - 73 de Mike N3LI - |
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On Jul 2, 9:28*am, "Ralph Mowery" wrote:
Is there a shortage in the supply of coax ? *A ham up the road has been trying to get some rg8x from The Wireman for a couple of weeks. *They are out and said they should have some in soon. There was also some mention of shortage of the open wire\twinlead type. Is it just this place or is there some shortage in the US of coax and antena wire. What about the other coax such as the rg8 size ? I ran in to the same thing last August at the Huntsville, Al. hamfest- no 450 ohm open wire line. The high cost of copper prohibits them from keeping too much inventory on hand. Apparently not much has changed since August. Gary N4AST |
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In message , Michael Coslo
writes Ralph Mowery wrote: Is there a shortage in the supply of coax ? Yes, but all is not lost. You need to get the newst Ham in the neighborhood and send him out for a coax stretcher. They come in handy from time to time. I have to admit I never found one in my neighborhood - but all the Hams were very helpful and thought they knew who might be able to help me, and sent me off to the person. But, when the coax is stretched, what happens to the characteristic impedance and the loss? [This is a (sort of) serious question!] -- Ian |
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![]() "Ian Jackson" wrote in message ... But, when the coax is stretched, what happens to the characteristic impedance and the loss? [This is a (sort of) serious question!] -- Ian If the ratio of the conductors stay the same, there should not be a change except the losses go up. As you streach the coax, the shield and the center conductor will get smaller. Also the dialectric will have to get smaller. If they do not srink at the same ratio, the impedance will change depending on which conductor gets smaller the fastest. The losses will go up because the center conductor and the outer conductor are smaller. This is the simple IR loss of the conductors. It is the same as going from a rg-8 to a rg-58 type coax. |
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On Jul 3, 10:11*am, "Ralph Mowery" wrote:
"Ian Jackson" wrote in message ... But, when the coax is stretched, what happens to the characteristic impedance and the loss? [This is a (sort of) serious question!] -- Ian If the ratio of the conductors stay the same, there should not be a change except the losses go up. *As you streach the coax, the shield and the center conductor will get smaller. *Also the dialectric will have to get smaller. If they do not srink at the same ratio, the impedance will change depending on which conductor gets smaller the fastest. The losses will go up because the center conductor and the outer conductor are smaller. *This is the simple IR loss of the conductors. *It is the same as going from a rg-8 to a rg-58 type coax. I'd be pleased to trade two buckets of prop wash for a coax stretcher. Any takers? Walt, W2DU |
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In article
, walt wrote: I'd be pleased to trade two buckets of prop wash for a coax stretcher. Any takers? Walt- Contact Tucker Electronics to see if they are willing to deal! One such device is the General Radio 874LK20L line stretcher. Tucker may have them in stock. See http://www.tucker.com/java/jsp/produ...d17338_condR.h tm. The product is described in a GR document at http://www.tucker.com/images/images_spec/00001006.pdf. It is supposed to have a constant impedance. Fred K4DII |
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On Jul 3, 2:03*pm, Fred McKenzie wrote:
In article , *walt wrote: I'd be pleased to trade two buckets of prop wash for a coax stretcher. Any takers? Walt- Contact Tucker Electronics to see if they are willing to deal! One such device is the General Radio 874LK20L line stretcher. *Tucker may have them in stock. See http://www.tucker.com/java/jsp/produ...d17338_condR.h tm. The product is described in a GR document at http://www.tucker.com/images/images_spec/00001006.pdf. *It is supposed to have a constant impedance. Fred K4DII Well Fred, I have a couple of GR line stretchers. What I need is a coax stretcher! Walt |
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I seriously doubt if there is any shortage of copper for coax or any
other type feed line. It's probably more a matter of someone forgetting to order stock, or enough stock. Or, like gasoline, it's a contrived 'shortage'. As for a 'coax stretcher', all is not lost, I have one. No, I do not loan it out. I might be talked into selling it, but you probably couldn't afford it, sorry. - 'Doc |
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On Jul 3, 11:54*am, walt wrote:
On Jul 3, 10:11*am, "Ralph Mowery" wrote: "Ian Jackson" wrote in message ... But, when the coax is stretched, what happens to the characteristic impedance and the loss? [This is a (sort of) serious question!] -- Ian If the ratio of the conductors stay the same, there should not be a change except the losses go up. *As you streach the coax, the shield and the center conductor will get smaller. *Also the dialectric will have to get smaller. If they do not srink at the same ratio, the impedance will change depending on which conductor gets smaller the fastest. The losses will go up because the center conductor and the outer conductor are smaller. *This is the simple IR loss of the conductors. *It is the same as going from a rg-8 to a rg-58 type coax. I'd be pleased to trade two buckets of prop wash for a coax stretcher. Any takers? Walt, W2DU I see your prop wash and will give you a left handed pipe wrench in exchange.If not the pipe wrench how about a can of muzzle blast? |
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