K1TTT wrote:
On Jul 31, 9:14Â*pm, wrote:
K1TTT wrote:
On Jul 31, 5:34Â*pm, wrote:
"Szczepan Bia?ek" wrote:

...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"In fact, most dipolar solids exhibit extremely small dielectric losses
since W tends to be extremely large. Water-free ice, for example does not
heat significantly under microwave irradiation." From:
http://www.tan-delta.com/mw_heating.html

Babbling gibberish, word salad.

"Quartz glass has a very high dielectric strength but a very low electric
conductivity, even at high temperature, high voltage and high frequency,
nearly without electric loss in the range of the frequencies applied.
Therefore quartz glass is an excellent high temperature dielectric
material."

Being able to cut and paste from a web page doesn't mean you are not a
babbling idiot.

What is the cause: polarisation or electrostriction or the both?
S*

Point proven.

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I wish he would talk to art more, the two of them are more fun when
they are combining their gibberish. Â*i guess they just don't realize
that the technobabble they have come up with doesn't really mean
anything useful, and little pieces of knowledge taken out of context
just can't be strung back together in any order to prove something
they think is right.

See:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_salad

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so which of these do you think may apply to Mr. B or Art? Could be
just about any of them i guess, though art seems to alternate between
Logorrhea and silence, maybe he's bipolar? Mr. B seems to be solidly
Schizophasiac, just continual nonsensical babbling.

# Wernicke's aphasia
# Schizophasia, a mental condition characterized by incoherent
babbling (compulsive or intentional, but nonsensical)
# Logorrhea (psychology), a mental condition characterized by
excessive talking (coherent or otherwise, but compulsive)

I believe Art has early onset alzheimer's disease, which I find very sad,
while the other guy is just plain bat **** crazy.


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"K1TTT" wrote
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On Jul 31, 5:34 pm, wrote:
"Szczepan Bia?ek" wrote:

"In fact, most dipolar solids exhibit extremely small dielectric
losses
since W tends to be extremely large. Water-free ice, for example
does not
heat significantly under microwave irradiation." From:
http://www.tan-delta.com/mw_heating.html

"Quartz glass has a very high dielectric strength but a very low
electric
conductivity, even at high temperature, high voltage and high
frequency,
nearly without electric loss in the range of the frequencies applied.
Therefore quartz glass is an excellent high temperature dielectric
material."


I wish he would talk to art more, the two of them are more fun when
they are combining their gibberish. i guess they just don't realize
that the technobabble they have come up with doesn't really mean
anything useful, and little pieces of knowledge taken out of context
just can't be strung back together in any order to prove something
they think is right.

The question was: "Does solid insulation makes the radiation weaker or stop
it?"

Instead the answer you serve me the word salad.
S*

On Aug 1, 9:02*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
*"K1TTT" ...



On Jul 31, 5:34 pm, wrote:
"Szczepan Bia?ek" wrote:

"In fact, most dipolar solids exhibit extremely small dielectric
losses
since W tends to be extremely large. Water-free ice, for example
does not
heat significantly under microwave irradiation." From:
http://www.tan-delta.com/mw_heating.html

"Quartz glass has a very high dielectric strength but a very low
electric
conductivity, even at high temperature, high voltage and high
frequency,
nearly without electric loss in the range of the frequencies applied.
Therefore quartz glass is an excellent high temperature dielectric
material."

I wish he would talk to art more, the two of them are more fun when
they are combining their gibberish. i guess they just don't realize
that the technobabble they have come up with doesn't really mean
anything useful, and little pieces of knowledge taken out of context
just can't be strung back together in any order to prove something
they think is right.

The question was: "Does solid insulation makes the radiation weaker or stop
it?"

Instead the answer you serve me the word salad.
S*

it will not stop it, it might make it stronger or weaker depending on
the loss characteristics and what you measure as the strength.

"K1TTT" wrote
...
On Aug 1, 9:02 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

"In fact, most dipolar solids exhibit extremely small dielectric
losses
since W tends to be extremely large. Water-free ice, for example
does not
heat significantly under microwave irradiation." From:
http://www.tan-delta.com/mw_heating.html


The question was: "Does solid insulation makes the radiation weaker or
stop
it?"

it will not stop it, it might make it stronger or weaker depending on
the loss characteristics and what you measure as the strength.

And what with the "natural" insulations: the ice and the wet?

Sometimes are on your dipoles an ice or water.
They should melt/evaporate in the places where are picks of the voltage.
Is it observed?

Lodge observed the glows. So there should be the heating also.
Burn off an insulation needs more heat than melting/evaporating of
ice/water.
S*

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"K1TTT" wrote
...
On Jul 31, 5:34 pm, wrote:
"Szczepan Bia?ek" wrote:

"In fact, most dipolar solids exhibit extremely small dielectric
losses
since W tends to be extremely large. Water-free ice, for example
does not
heat significantly under microwave irradiation." From:
http://www.tan-delta.com/mw_heating.html

"Quartz glass has a very high dielectric strength but a very low
electric
conductivity, even at high temperature, high voltage and high
frequency,
nearly without electric loss in the range of the frequencies applied.
Therefore quartz glass is an excellent high temperature dielectric
material."


I wish he would talk to art more, the two of them are more fun when
they are combining their gibberish. i guess they just don't realize
that the technobabble they have come up with doesn't really mean
anything useful, and little pieces of knowledge taken out of context
just can't be strung back together in any order to prove something
they think is right.

The question was: "Does solid insulation makes the radiation weaker or stop
it?"

And the question has been answered many times now by several people.

In the real and practical world, no, insulation will not stop the radiation
from an RF antenna and depending on the frequency and material of the
insulation some of the radiation will be aborbed as heat by the insulation.

Instead the answer you serve me the word salad.
S*

What you post is word salad.

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedic...com/word+salad


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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"K1TTT" wrote
...
On Aug 1, 9:02 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

"In fact, most dipolar solids exhibit extremely small dielectric
losses
since W tends to be extremely large. Water-free ice, for example
does not
heat significantly under microwave irradiation." From:
http://www.tan-delta.com/mw_heating.html


The question was: "Does solid insulation makes the radiation weaker or
stop
it?"

it will not stop it, it might make it stronger or weaker depending on
the loss characteristics and what you measure as the strength.

And what with the "natural" insulations: the ice and the wet?

Sometimes are on your dipoles an ice or water.
They should melt/evaporate in the places where are picks of the voltage.
Is it observed?

Lodge observed the glows. So there should be the heating also.
Burn off an insulation needs more heat than melting/evaporating of
ice/water.
S*

Yet more babbling word salad.



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Jim Pennino

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On Aug 1, 4:52*pm, wrote:
Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"K1TTT" wrote
....
On Jul 31, 5:34 pm, wrote:
"Szczepan Bia?ek" wrote:

"In fact, most dipolar solids exhibit extremely small dielectric
losses
since W tends to be extremely large. Water-free ice, for example
does not
heat significantly under microwave irradiation." From:
http://www.tan-delta.com/mw_heating.html

"Quartz glass has a very high dielectric strength but a very low
electric
conductivity, even at high temperature, high voltage and high
frequency,
nearly without electric loss in the range of the frequencies applied.
Therefore quartz glass is an excellent high temperature dielectric
material."

I wish he would talk to art more, the two of them are more fun when
they are combining their gibberish. i guess they just don't realize
that the technobabble they have come up with doesn't really mean
anything useful, and little pieces of knowledge taken out of context
just can't be strung back together in any order to prove something
they think is right.

The question was: "Does solid insulation makes the radiation weaker or stop
it?"

And the question has been answered many times now by several people.

In the real and practical world, no, insulation will not stop the radiation
from an RF antenna and depending on the frequency and material of the
insulation some of the radiation will be aborbed as heat by the insulation.

Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w wiadomosci
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On Aug 1, 4:52 pm, wrote:
Szczepan Bialek wrote:


The question was: "Does solid insulation makes the radiation weaker or
stop
it?"

And the question has been answered many times now by several people.

In the real and practical world, no, insulation will not stop the
radiation
from an RF antenna and depending on the frequency and material of the
insulation some of the radiation will be aborbed as heat by the
insulation.

The was the additional question: "And what with the "natural" insulations:
the ice and the wet?

Sometimes are on your dipoles an ice or water.
They should melt/evaporate in the places where are picks of the voltage.
Is it observed?

No ice and rain in your area?
S*

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w wiadomosci
...
On Aug 1, 4:52 pm, wrote:
Szczepan Bialek wrote:


The question was: "Does solid insulation makes the radiation weaker or
stop
it?"

And the question has been answered many times now by several people.

In the real and practical world, no, insulation will not stop the
radiation
from an RF antenna and depending on the frequency and material of the
insulation some of the radiation will be aborbed as heat by the
insulation.

The was the additional question: "And what with the "natural" insulations:
the ice and the wet?

What part of the words "insulation" and "insulator" do you not understand?

There is nothing special about ice or liquid water and the electrical
properties of both can be easily looked up.

There is nothing mystical about something that is "natural".

snip remaining babble


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wrote ...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:


The was the additional question: "And what with the "natural"
insulations:
the ice and the wet?

What part of the words "insulation" and "insulator" do you not understand?

There is nothing special about ice or liquid water and the electrical
properties of both can be easily looked up.

There is nothing mystical about something that is "natural".

You assume that everything "can be easily looked up". It is right for the
old theories.

But now is the new Art's "time dependent Gauss law" theory.

At the ends of the dipole the alternate electric field is produced. There is
the Lodges glow.

So it is interesting if that glow is also visible on insulated wires and
what is emitted from the antenna.

You have opportunity to develop the Art's theory. Do not be lazy.
S*