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Uzytkownik "K1TTT" wrote
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great laugh isn't he art... you two should collaborate on a grand new

theory of em particulate flow, between your magical levitating
diamagnetic solar neutrinos that we are all drowning in and his
'pulsatile' electron flow maybe you could come up with something that
has even more humor potential!

Look at "Simplest Crystal Radi" in:
http://hackingwithgum.com/2009/06/08...s-really-work/

There is the antenna, diode and ground. Is there the "pulsatile electron
flow "?

If the transmitter produces the AC current and at the end of the antenna the
voltage is doubled and the field emission take place is there the "pulsatile
electron flow "?

In radials no voltage doubling so the field emissions take place only in one
end.

Is it too dificult for you. You are an engineer.
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On Oct 9, 6:20*pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
Uzytkownik "K1TTT" ...

great laugh isn't he art... you two should collaborate on a grand new


theory of em particulate flow, between your magical levitating
diamagnetic solar neutrinos that we are all drowning in and his
'pulsatile' electron flow maybe you could come up with something that
has even more humor potential!

Look at "Simplest Crystal Radi" in:http://hackingwithgum.com/2009/06/08...s-really-work/

There is the antenna, diode and ground. Is there the "pulsatile electron
flow "?

If the transmitter produces the AC current and at the end of the antenna the
voltage is doubled and the field emission take place is there the "pulsatile
electron flow "?

In radials no voltage doubling so the field emissions take place only in one
end.

Is it too dificult for you. You are an engineer.
S*


how does the electron know if it is at the end of an antenna wire or
the end of a radial wire?
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Look at "Simplest Crystal Radi" in:
http://hackingwithgum.com/2009/06/08...s-really-work/

There is the antenna, diode and ground. Is there the "pulsatile electron
flow "?

If the transmitter produces the AC current and at the end of the antenna the
voltage is doubled and the field emission take place is there the "pulsatile
electron flow "?

In radials no voltage doubling so the field emissions take place only in one
end.

Is it too dificult for you. You are an engineer.
S*


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Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w wiadomosci
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On Oct 9, 6:20 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

Look at "Simplest Crystal Radi" in:
http://hackingwithgum.com/2009/06/08...s-really-work/


There is the antenna, diode and ground. Is there the "pulsatile electron

flow "?

If the transmitter produces the AC current and at the end of the antenna
the
voltage is doubled and the field emission take place is there the
"pulsatile
electron flow "?

In radials no voltage doubling so the field emissions take place only in
one

end.

Is it too dificult for you. You are an engineer.


how does the electron know if it is at the end of an antenna wire or

the end of a radial wire?

The first sensible question.

"Radials and Counterpoises have two basic purposes:
1. To improve the RF ground conductivity for the ground current return path.
Unless you live in a salt-water swamp, your ground conductivity makes a very
poor path for the return of ground currents. This increases the ground
losses and reduces the efficiency of an antenna that needs a good RF ground.

E. More radial wires are generally better. As the number gets larger, they
improve the RF Ground less and less, to the point where there is no
difference when adding one more radial to a system that already has 120
installed. Minimum systems of as few as 4 wires can provide an acceptable
ground and increase the antenna's efficiency by a significant amount.
Generally, 6-8 radials is the minimum that should be used." From:
http://www.sgcworld.com/radialstechnote.html

As you see in the radials are many ends. There is the lower voltage and
almost no radiation (electron loss). Radial work like the receiver antena
(caught electrons from air)

Without the radials your stations can work only in a "salt-water swamp".

S*





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On Oct 10, 9:06*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w ...
On Oct 9, 6:20 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:





Look at "Simplest Crystal Radi" in:
http://hackingwithgum.com/2009/06/08...s-really-work/


There is the antenna, diode and ground. Is there the "pulsatile electron

flow "?


If the transmitter produces the AC current and at the end of the antenna
the
voltage is doubled and the field emission take place is there the
"pulsatile
electron flow "?


In radials no voltage doubling so the field emissions take place only in
one

end.


Is it too dificult for you. You are an engineer.

how does the electron know if it is at the end of an antenna wire or


the end of a radial wire?

The first sensible question.

"Radials and Counterpoises have two basic purposes:
1. To improve the RF ground conductivity for the ground current return path.
Unless you live in a salt-water swamp, your ground conductivity makes a very
poor path for the return of ground currents. This increases the ground
losses and reduces the efficiency of an antenna that needs a good RF ground.

E. More radial wires are generally better. As the number gets larger, they
improve the RF Ground less and less, to the point where there is no
difference when adding one more radial to a system that already has 120
installed. Minimum systems of as few as 4 wires can provide an acceptable
ground and increase the antenna's efficiency by a significant amount.
Generally, 6-8 radials is the minimum that should be used." From:http://www.sgcworld.com/radialstechnote.html

As you see in the radials are many ends. There is the lower voltage and
almost no radiation (electron loss). Radial work like the receiver antena
(caught electrons from air)

Without the radials your stations can work only in a "salt-water swamp".

S*


yes, but how does the electron in a single radial know it is at the
end of a radial and not double as opposed to the electron at the end
of an antenna that does double??


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Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w wiadomosci
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On Oct 10, 9:06 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

Generally, 6-8 radials is the minimum that should be used." From:
http://www.sgcworld.com/radialstechnote.html


As you see in the radials are many ends. There is the lower voltage and

almost no radiation (electron loss). Radial work like the receiver antena
(caught electrons from air)

Without the radials your stations can work only in a "salt-water swamp".


yes, but how does the electron in a single radial know it is at the

end of a radial and not double

In each end the voltage has tendency to be doubled (standing wave). If you
have radials and the LED you can measure the voltage. It will be lower in 10
radials than in 6.

as opposed to the electron at the end

of an antenna that does double??

You know what to do to have low VSWR. Low VSWR means that the voltage is so
high that the intensive emission of electrons take place.

At higher voltage the emission or sparks make low VSWR.
S*


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On Oct 10, 1:13*pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w ...
On Oct 10, 9:06 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

Generally, 6-8 radials is the minimum that should be used." From:
http://www.sgcworld.com/radialstechnote.html


As you see in the radials are many ends. There is the lower voltage and

almost no radiation (electron loss). Radial work like the receiver antena
(caught electrons from air)


Without the radials your stations can work only in a "salt-water swamp".


yes, but how does the electron in a single radial know it is at the


end of a radial and not double

In each end the voltage has tendency to be doubled (standing wave). If you
have radials and the LED you can measure the voltage. It will be lower in 10
radials than in 6.


oh, so it does double at the end of a radial.. that is different from
what you said earlier.


as opposed to the electron at the end


of an antenna that does double??

You know what to do to have low VSWR. Low VSWR means that the voltage is so
high that the intensive emission of electrons take place.

*At higher voltage the emission or sparks make low VSWR.
S*


oh, so the swr changes with transmitter power? that is an observable
prediction that is obviously false... go back to square 1 and start
your theory over again.
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just an alligator clip.

Thx

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testing, 1, 2, 3... can you hear me now??

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

As you see in the radials are many ends. There is the lower voltage and
almost no radiation (electron loss). Radial work like the receiver antena
(caught electrons from air)

Without the radials your stations can work only in a "salt-water swamp".


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