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I have recently bought a 2nd hand faihaven RD500, im really pleased with it,
having been an avid VHF/UHF listener before i wanted to get into HF/SW. I currently have a telescopic aeriel plugged into the back, which im sure is no use. Someone told me all you have to do is run a wire 33ft long around my loft and plug it into the back of my reciever and ill pick up some great stuff. Im particularly interested in Military but other stuff as well Im not sure how true this is, can someone enlighten me, if so then can you give me a breakdown of what ill need and any tips to installing it. Any help will be very much appreciatted Thanks in advance Steve(Scottish) |
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Steve,
That 'someone' told you correctly for the most part. It certainly isn't the most exacting explanation for an antenna, but it will get you into the 'ball park'! The length of an antenna has to be such that it provides enough signal to your receiver so that it (the desired signal) is louder than the noise. For most HF signals, 33 feet will be plenty. Of course, 'more' would be 'better' in some cases, but not always. The one thing that will do more to increase what you hear is height. Get the antenna as high as possible (sort of like you standing on your 'tip toes' to see farther, right?). You also can only work with what you have, so if ceiling height is the most you have, then use it. The 'shape' of your antenna also can play an important part in what you hear. If the antenna is high enough above ground, it can become directional in nature. I wouldn't worry about that too much, though, just be aware of it. Stringing your antenna out as long and as straight as you can make it is much better than wadding it up into a ball and throwing it into a corner. There's also nothing that says that you can't change the 'shape' of the antenna, if you want to see what would happen. The size of the wire used isn't going to make a lot of difference, as long as it is strong enough to support it's own weight. Make it ea$y on your $elf, co$t wi$e. The length isn't really that critical so you don't need to use a micrometer to measure the length of your antenna. A little more, or a little less isn't going to make a big difference. A foot or two is meaningless, twice the length is "more better", sort of. Probably more important than anything else is how the wire is connected to your receiver. Use the proper connector, if possible. If it isn't possible, just make sure you don't short out the receiver's antenna terminals. Won't harm the receiver, you just won't hear much. SWL'ing is fun, so have lots of it! 'Doc PS - That's about as non-technical as you can make an explanation of a complex subject. There are 'exceptions' to everything I said, but what I said will certainly work for you. Knowing 'why' it 'works' is interesting, but not really necessary to make it 'work'. The 'having fun' is the important part... |
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On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 10:54:29 +0100, "Steve Muir"
wrote: I have recently bought a 2nd hand faihaven RD500, im really pleased with it, having been an avid VHF/UHF listener before i wanted to get into HF/SW. I currently have a telescopic aeriel plugged into the back, which im sure is no use. Someone told me all you have to do is run a wire 33ft long around my loft and plug it into the back of my reciever and ill pick up some great stuff. Im particularly interested in Military but other stuff as well Im not sure how true this is, can someone enlighten me, if so then can you give me a breakdown of what ill need and any tips to installing it. Any help will be very much appreciatted Thanks in advance Steve(Scottish) Hi Steve, Looks like a really nice rig. One comment to add to Doc's advice: add a tuner between your antenna and the rig. The reason is that nearby AM stations can overload and saturate your front end without you knowing it and reduce the sensitivity considerably! This is not so obvious with a whip antenna, but it becomes a big time problem with longwire antennas if the front end is not tuned (a very expensive feature, unless you go back several generations to tube models). You can buy a cheap one that is already used by an amateur (or go for the absolute cheapest model without meters that would do you no good anyway). Or to cut cost even more, build your own (browse the net for designs). 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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If you use a Magnetic Longwire Balun, ANY length of wire should present roughly
50 ohms to the receiver. The amount of extra signal will be considerable! I used 33 feet of wire with a Roberts RC818 some years ago, which worked really well, but when I added the MLB, there was a vast improvement. These MLBs have a PL259(actually SO239) connection at one end and a wing nut for your longwire at the other end. Hayden, W&S, and Maplin all supply them here in the UK for about £20. A worthwhile investment for the terminally lazy! Otherwise, an ATU is perhaps a better option, except that browsing a band will require constant retuning of the ATU. Personally Id suggest an ATU over an MLB because there will be attenuation of off freq signals that may otherwise cause you problems. So theres your choice! If you want some help building an ATU or sourcing parts, E-mail me, but take QRM off my e-mail addy, ![]() |
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John - G0WPA wrote:
If you use a Magnetic Longwire Balun, ANY length of wire should present roughly 50 ohms to the receiver. Where can I get one of those magic baluns? It doesn't happen to have a 50 ohm resistor in it, does it? -- 73, Cecil, W5DXP -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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John - G0WPA wrote:
If you use a Magnetic Longwire Balun, ANY length of wire should present roughly 50 ohms to the receiver. The amount of extra signal will be considerable! I wonder how the Magnetic longwire baluns work with the Isotron? ;^) - Mike KB3EIA - |
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It's not a balun and it doesn't magically autotune though they do help quite
a bit depending on circumstances. "Cecil Moore" wrote in message ... Where can I get one of those magic baluns? It doesn't happen to have a 50 ohm resistor in it, does it? -- 73, Cecil, W5DXP -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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