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The on-channel TDR pulse performance of a narrowband antenna can be seen by controlling the RF bandwidth and spectrum span of the test process to fit the application. The pulse (ping) itself is modulated onto an RF carrier set at the operating frequency. Not practical for most hams, but very useful in evaluating and optimising TV transmit antenna systems. If anyone is interested in seeing a jpg of such a measurement, pls e-mail me directly. - RF _____________ "Tam/WB2TT" wrote in message What happens when you ping your antenna? Clearly the spectrum of the pulse is wider than the bandwidth of a typical antenna, but is there any useful information? |
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Mike, KB3EIA wrote:
"But the idea of signals being actually reflected seems hard to swallow." It`s true that antennas are measured in degrees. A 1/4-wave antenna is 90-degrees. This is based on how many degrees the signal has changed at the antenna input by the time the signal reaches the tip end of the antenna. When signal reaches the end of a 1/4-wave whip, there is an abrupt discontinuity. Only displacement current flows without conductors. The tip of the whip accepts only a small fraction of the current available in the forward power traveling on the whip. The only path for the rejected power is back toward the feedpoint. Direction and phase of the current reverse in the reflected power, but the voltages of the incident and reflected waves have the same phase (see 1955 Terman, page 89). Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI |
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(see 1955 Terman, page 89).
Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI =========================== From where can I obtain a Frederick Emmons Terman prayer mat ? ;o) ---- Reg. |
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On Mon, 24 May 2004 17:32:48 +0000 (UTC), "Reg Edwards"
wrote: From where can I obtain a Frederick Emmons Terman prayer mat ? ;o) Same place that sells the Kelvinator sacred artifacts and lord plushbottom hymnals. |
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![]() "*" wrote in message ... They make an instrument called a Time Domain Reflectometer, you hook it up to transmission lines and it sends out a pulse and times how long it takes to get back. The time it takes, reflected pulse polarity, and height says a lot about the line. Used for finding faults on telco/cable lines. Does the same thing with RF lines. Matched well, no pulse, but you can even see connectors on some of these TDR's Googleit, too Sorry, *, won't work. TDR only good on wide band systems. Too messy for this kind of antennas. -- Steve N, K,9;d, c. i My email has no u's. |
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Richard Harrison wrote:
Mike, KB3EIA wrote: "But the idea of signals being actually reflected seems hard to swallow." It`s true that antennas are measured in degrees. A 1/4-wave antenna is 90-degrees. This is based on how many degrees the signal has changed at the antenna input by the time the signal reaches the tip end of the antenna. When signal reaches the end of a 1/4-wave whip, there is an abrupt discontinuity. Only displacement current flows without conductors. The tip of the whip accepts only a small fraction of the current available in the forward power traveling on the whip. The only path for the rejected power is back toward the feedpoint. Direction and phase of the current reverse in the reflected power, but the voltages of the incident and reflected waves have the same phase (see 1955 Terman, page 89). Thanks Richard. I'm digesting that now. Let's see it any of it sinks in ! - Mike KB3EIA - |
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![]() "Richard Fry" wrote in message ... Quote below. The on-channel TDR pulse performance of a narrowband antenna can be seen by controlling the RF bandwidth and spectrum span of the test process to fit the application. The pulse (ping) itself is modulated onto an RF carrier set at the operating frequency. - RF Duh! I should have known. Pulse it within the BW of the load. Steve N. |
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