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With regular guy wires, we have metal turnbuckles to adjust tension in the
wire, but what about for nylon? I recently built an antenna that uses nylon rope for antenna support at various spots. I need to adjust the tension in the nylon rope and I'd rather not use metal turnbuckles as there are a lot of spots that need adjustment and I don't want interaction with the antenna. What's the alternative? Thanks |
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Jason Washington wrote:
With regular guy wires, we have metal turnbuckles to adjust tension in the wire, but what about for nylon? I recently built an antenna that uses nylon rope for antenna support at various spots. I need to adjust the tension in the nylon rope and I'd rather not use metal turnbuckles as there are a lot of spots that need adjustment and I don't want interaction with the antenna. What's the alternative? Thanks A cleat, assuming you have someplace to mount it. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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We don't have all the information here, but the Cleat idea is a good one.
With my G5RV antenna, I have it mounted to the side of the house on a jib boom - 10' away from the side of the house, with a continuous piece of nylon rope and a pulley and a cleat. Pull the center of the antenna up to the top of the boom, tie off. Job done! Ends are tied to the porcelain insulator with about 6 feet of rope, going to a eye hook on top of 2 - twelve foot tall pieces of 1 inch galvanized pipe, which is pulled taunt on a cleat, but the top of the pole is tied to two ground stakes at 45* angles from the wire coming from the antenna. Antenna wire pulls the pole towards the wire, ropes to ground stakes pulls top of pipe back and puts pressure on the wire coming from the center of the antenna on the jib boom. Stake in ground holds mast up, and ground stakes holds it in place - along with the antenna wire itself. You can use rope, parachute cord, high test fishing line - 50 lbs test, what ever you want. |
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On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 07:38:39 -0500, Jason Washington wrote:
With regular guy wires, we have metal turnbuckles to adjust tension in the wire, but what about for nylon? I recently built an antenna that uses nylon rope for antenna support at various spots. I need to adjust the tension in the nylon rope and I'd rather not use metal turnbuckles as there are a lot of spots that need adjustment and I don't want interaction with the antenna. What's the alternative? Thanks Is it Nylon or Dacron? Anyway, I just tie knots in mine. |
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![]() "dave" wrote in message m... On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 07:38:39 -0500, Jason Washington wrote: With regular guy wires, we have metal turnbuckles to adjust tension in the wire, but what about for nylon? I recently built an antenna that uses nylon rope for antenna support at various spots. I need to adjust the tension in the nylon rope and I'd rather not use metal turnbuckles as there are a lot of spots that need adjustment and I don't want interaction with the antenna. What's the alternative? Thanks Is it Nylon or Dacron? Anyway, I just tie knots in mine. Why not just use the same system used on tents that use rain fly covers? Not sure how to describe it but you can find them on almost any light weight tent. Just use a bigger version. Most use light aluminum but heavy Plexiglas or Lexan would work just fine. |
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On Jan 9, 5:55*am, "Topaz305rk" wrote:
"dave" wrote in message m... On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 07:38:39 -0500, Jason Washington wrote: With regular guy wires, we have metal turnbuckles to adjust tension in the wire, but what about for nylon? *I recently built an antenna that uses nylon rope for antenna support at various spots. *I need to adjust the tension in the nylon rope and I'd rather not use metal turnbuckles as there are a lot of spots that need adjustment and I don't want interaction with the antenna. What's the alternative? *Thanks Is it Nylon or Dacron? Anyway, I just tie knots in mine. Why not just use the same system used on tents that use rain fly covers? Not sure how to describe it but you can find them on almost any light weight tent. Just use a bigger version. Most use light aluminum but heavy Plexiglas or Lexan would work just fine.. Here's a fancy version http://www.niteize.com/collections/figure-9 I've seen ones that are basically steel wire bent into an appropriate shape, and, of course, the 3 hole toggle kind: like these http://www.campmor.com/line-tighteners-2.shtml 8 for $2 The steel wire ones are basically a ring on one end, and a sort of dual slot thing, hard to describe in words. Functionally identical to the campmor ones. And, there's another scheme with two overlapped rings, like you use for tightening a strap or buckle. |
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On Jan 9, 6:26*pm, Jim Lux wrote:
On Jan 9, 5:55*am, "Topaz305rk" wrote: "dave" wrote in message om... On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 07:38:39 -0500, Jason Washington wrote: With regular guy wires, we have metal turnbuckles to adjust tension in the wire, but what about for nylon? *I recently built an antenna that uses nylon rope for antenna support at various spots. *I need to adjust the tension in the nylon rope and I'd rather not use metal turnbuckles as there are a lot of spots that need adjustment and I don't want interaction with the antenna. What's the alternative? *Thanks Is it Nylon or Dacron? Anyway, I just tie knots in mine. Why not just use the same system used on tents that use rain fly covers? Not sure how to describe it but you can find them on almost any light weight tent. Just use a bigger version. Most use light aluminum but heavy Plexiglas or Lexan would work just fine. Here's a fancy versionhttp://www.niteize.com/collections/figure-9 I've seen ones that are basically steel wire bent into an appropriate shape, and, of course, the 3 hole toggle kind: like thesehttp://www.campmor.com/line-tighteners-2.shtml* 8 for $2 The steel wire ones are basically a ring on one end, and a sort of dual slot thing, hard to describe in words. *Functionally identical to the campmor ones. And, there's another scheme with two overlapped rings, like you use for tightening a strap or buckle.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - When I was in the Air Force we had some that didnt look too far away from a dog bone insulator if you use your imagination a bit. I made some for tarp tie downs by welding some nuts on the the end of some steel rods. The threads in the nuts gave it a really good grip. Jimmie |
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Look at a tautline hitch on google. Used to adjust tent ropes and such
Roy, NQ4D "Jason Washington" wrote in message ... With regular guy wires, we have metal turnbuckles to adjust tension in the wire, but what about for nylon? I recently built an antenna that uses nylon rope for antenna support at various spots. I need to adjust the tension in the nylon rope and I'd rather not use metal turnbuckles as there are a lot of spots that need adjustment and I don't want interaction with the antenna. What's the alternative? Thanks |
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No Dave
Not a good idea to simply tie knots in your guy lines. Because after a while the wind and rain and wind and rain will slowly cause them to come untied. Very bad idea, very bad advice. You would be wise to at least tape the heck out of those knots, so to prevent them from coming undone, and your tower or antenna falling over. I mean that is the purpose of the guy lines. But a simple granny knot wont work Dave. Once again Dave, some bad advice. Have you ever owned a boat? lol,,, I bet you tied it up one day, came out the next and it was gone. lol,,, oh my,, that is too funny. I recomment starting an immediate course with the Cubs, then work into Boy Scouts, they will teach you Dave how to properly secure something using nylon rope or any kind of rope. Never tie a granny knot Dave, you should never, ever tie a granny knot for your guy wire for your tower. Lol,,, your neighbors are probably sleeping on pins those windy nights. Oh my. Turnbuckles are cheap and easy way to keep tension equal and tight on towers. Make sure your connections are tight and never use granny knots, use clamps or at least a double Winchester,,, lol,,, oh,,, oh my,,, Dave,,, you got me today Dave... Oh stop it... lol,,,, oh my.... Tie your tower with a granny knot... Oh my... lol,,,, Dave you are the limit. 73s "dave" wrote in message m... On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 07:38:39 -0500, Jason Washington wrote: With regular guy wires, we have metal turnbuckles to adjust tension in the wire, but what about for nylon? I recently built an antenna that uses nylon rope for antenna support at various spots. I need to adjust the tension in the nylon rope and I'd rather not use metal turnbuckles as there are a lot of spots that need adjustment and I don't want interaction with the antenna. What's the alternative? Thanks Is it Nylon or Dacron? Anyway, I just tie knots in mine. |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowline
The next link will be to a psych medication My "tower" is a fiberglass mast. It has 3 guys at about 1/5 the way up, to keep bending force off the base. The rest is 6 tubes stacked up and a #12 copper wire coming back down the inside. Very graceful in the wind; it can bend over 90 degrees and always rights itself, just like a good sailboat should. Cheers. On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 10:45:26 -0500, Tuuk wrote: No Dave Not a good idea to simply tie knots in your guy lines. Because after a while the wind and rain and wind and rain will slowly cause them to come untied. Very bad idea, very bad advice. You would be wise to at least tape the heck out of those knots, so to prevent them from coming undone, and your tower or antenna falling over. I mean that is the purpose of the guy lines. But a simple granny knot wont work Dave. Once again Dave, some bad advice. Have you ever owned a boat? lol,,, I bet you tied it up one day, came out the next and it was gone. lol,,, oh my,, that is too funny. I recomment starting an immediate course with the Cubs, then work into Boy Scouts, they will teach you Dave how to properly secure something using nylon rope or any kind of rope. Never tie a granny knot Dave, you should never, ever tie a granny knot for your guy wire for your tower. Lol,,, your neighbors are probably sleeping on pins those windy nights. Oh my. Turnbuckles are cheap and easy way to keep tension equal and tight on towers. Make sure your connections are tight and never use granny knots, use clamps or at least a double Winchester,,, lol,,, oh,,, oh my,,, Dave,,, you got me today Dave... Oh stop it... lol,,,, oh my.... Tie your tower with a granny knot... Oh my... lol,,,, Dave you are the limit. 73s "dave" wrote in message m... On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 07:38:39 -0500, Jason Washington wrote: With regular guy wires, we have metal turnbuckles to adjust tension in the wire, but what about for nylon? I recently built an antenna that uses nylon rope for antenna support at various spots. I need to adjust the tension in the nylon rope and I'd rather not use metal turnbuckles as there are a lot of spots that need adjustment and I don't want interaction with the antenna. What's the alternative? Thanks Is it Nylon or Dacron? Anyway, I just tie knots in mine. |
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