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Everybody acknowledges that a good ground is required for any amateur
work, especially for a vertical. When I'm putting in an RF ground for either my station or for an antenna system, how do I know when I've achieved "good enough"? What works? Thanks - Mark Sheffield/N0LF |
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![]() Everybody acknowledges that a good ground is required for any amateur work, especially for a vertical. When I'm putting in an RF ground for either my station or for an antenna system, how do I know when I've achieved "good enough"? What works? =================================== Anything will work! To summarise, begining with 1 radial, all you can do is keep laying more radials until performance ceases to improve. Then that's the best which can be done at your QTH. Performance can be judged by measuring the strength of fixed, stable, not too distant, MF and lower frequency HF radio stations in daylight. There's an effect known as "Reciprocity" which means that an antenna with its ground system is just as good or bad on transmit as it is on receive. If you increase the number of shallow-buried radials by 50 percent and there's no noticeable improvement then stop laying. Depending on the type of soil you will end up with a number which, in general, will be fewer than what you thought of before you started. With a vertical, much depends on the lowest frequency of interest. Opinions differ but in my opinion, in average garden soil, there's not much point in laying shallow buried radials longer than 1/10th of a wavelength. They can be shorter in very fertile, fine, damp soil and longer in dry sandy or rocky soil. Fertility is the key. Increase their number according to the above 50 percent guidline. Layout and bends in the wires are unimportant as are varying lengths. Just spread them out fairly uniformly over the area available. A 180-degree missing sector because the house gets in the way is not of great consequence. Wire diameter has little electrical effect. Choose wire diameter according to type of soil and wire durability. Forget about ground rods. A ground rod is little better electrically than a horizontal radial of about the same length. A short ground rod can be used as a common connecting point. If you like amusing yourself with numbers, and for crude predictions of what to expect, download programs EARTHRES and RADIALS2 from website below. A little knowledge of your local soil resistivity can add much to the interest and help you to forget the lumbago. --- .................................................. .......... Regards from Reg, G4FGQ For Free Radio Design Software go to http://www.btinternet.com/~g4fgq.regp .................................................. .......... |
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Mark Sheffield, N0LF wrote:
"When I`m putting in an RF ground for either my station or for an antenna system, how do I know when I`ve achieved "good enough"?" Measurement accuracy is sometimes overestimated as Reg Edwards, G4FGQ has often declared in this group. But, you know your RF ground is good enough when expanding the system brings very little improvement. You need no RF ground for a properly balanced antenna system. For an unbalanced antenna, the ground system is 1/2 of the total antenna system. This system has a total resistance that is the sum of its desired radiation resistance and its undesired loss resistance. Nearly all the undesired loss is in the ground system. So, it`s very important to minimize ground loss in an unbalanced antenna system. There are two ways to determine that you`ve rid your unbalanced antenna system of loss resistance. If the loss resistance is zero, the driving impedance of the 1/4-wave monopole against ground should measure 36.5 ohms (from 1950 Kraus "Antennas" page 315). The second way is to measure the field intensity along the earth`s surface at a distance of one mile from the antenna. With 1 watt into the antenna, the field intensity at one mile is 6.5 millivolts/meter with a lossless system (from Kraus as above). Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI |
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I should have mentioned. When measuring signal strengths as a measure of
performance there's safety in numbers. Take the average of a fair number of transmissions, all well above the noise level, at about the same time each day, using your most stable S-meter with the receiver gain turned down such that the meter deflection is on the most sensitive sector of its scale. Allow the receiver to warm up for the same length of time on each occasion it is used. S-meter calibration doesn't matter two hoots. And once set, don't ever touch the receiver gain control. You should take all these precautions from the time when you have laid only one radial. You will not wish to dig up already laid radials in order to re-measure the earlier ones you forgot to treat in the standard manner. It will be appreciated, to make tests during radial-laying operations by asking for signal strength reports from your many friends, using THEIR S-meters, will result in you losing them. Incidentally, when "I" used this method of testing antenna efficiency I stopped at 8, 10 feet, radials with a 3 feet rod at the end of each. This included the domestic incoming main water pipe which made no difference when THAT was connected. So I stopped. But my soil resistivity is only about 70 ohm-metres. I can grow anything in my garden. At present it is covered with a dense growth of 3 feet high weeds except for a small patch which I use to feed the birds. As if they didn't get enough to eat anyhow. With the trees and overgrown bushes it is a wild-life sanctuary for frogs, rats, squirrels and hedgehogs. The only complaints I get are from the neighbours. But its stopped them complaining about TVI. --- Reg, G4FGQ |
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![]() Thank you very much - these are very helpful ways to approach the problem. Best Regards, Mark Sheffield/n0lf |
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instead of radials, you COULD just make the grounded side vertical - into a
well, I THINK??? (I'm assuming that would work - but never tried it - my post-hole digger handles were too short) "MarkS" wrote in message om... Everybody acknowledges that a good ground is required for any amateur work, especially for a vertical. When I'm putting in an RF ground for either my station or for an antenna system, how do I know when I've achieved "good enough"? What works? Thanks - Mark Sheffield/N0LF --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.744 / Virus Database: 496 - Release Date: 8/24/2004 |
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Nice Site,
John-WA4JM -- |
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Hal Rosser wrote:
"Instead of radials, you dould just make the ground side vertical into a well, I think?" Not at HF, efficiently, because the ground penetration depth decreases for an RF wave as frequency increases. It is "skin effect" which decreases the depth with the square root of the frequency. A steel well casing may make a good ground return at LF but not at HF. Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI |
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"Richard Harrison" wrote in message
... Hal Rosser wrote: "Instead of radials, you dould just make the ground side vertical into a well, I think?" Not at HF, efficiently, because the ground penetration depth decreases for an RF wave as frequency increases. It is "skin effect" which decreases the depth with the square root of the frequency. A steel well casing may make a good ground return at LF but not at HF. Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI Keep them earthworms warm at nite. 73 H. NQ5H |
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"Bill Turner" wrote
If you have an impedance analyzer you can trust, and if you are using a 1/4 wave vertical (full size, not loaded), and if your ground is perfect, you should measure about 36 ohms at the feedpoint. Any measurement higher than that is due to ground loss. _________ But in practical terms, how do you get a "perfect" earth ground reference for the analyzer to use when making the measurement? RF |
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