On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:10:16 GMT, Richard Clark
wrote:

To get the wavelength, divide 300 by the
number of MHz.

I should have said the resulting number would the length in Meters.
For example with your
400MHz = 75cM
900MHz = 33cM
the elaborate answer would tend toward:
400MHz = 71 - 72cM
900MHz = 31 - 32cM

Richard Clark wrote:

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:49:19 -0400, "Jack Painter"
wrote:

So Richard, if
you will kindly put your sword away

Hi Jack,

And remove your opportunity to swing a rusty razor blade? I notice
reciprocity rules even when resistance is offered. I also note the
irony of suppressing such statements as I offer to reduce the chatter,
by offering the increase of chatter in like statements as bait - you
caught this fish! ;-)


Everyone is entitled to their opinion. And some lack the common sense
to keep it to themselves.

ac6xg

"Richard Clark" wrote

I am currently listening to a Lewis Lapham talk put on by our local
"Town Hall." 73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Hi Richard,

Who cares what town hall meetings you listen to? Unsubstantiated crap or the
word of God, on a list where it belongs, or in personal e-mails, you'll find
a sword's edge you have to reckon with, but you waste everyone's time in
rec.radio.xx telling us about it. You have so many valuable opinions and
expertise in several areas, but you're a common flamer when it comes to this
newsgroup lately. Nothing I read in hundreds of your posts before had such
diversions. Will the real radioman please come back?

Best regards,

Jack

"Richard Clark" wrote


I respond to issues that demand analysis. I put up examples and note
their correlation. When I get flak that constitutes nothing more than
"t'ain't so" I am satisfied the point remains unchallenged, much less
untoppled.

I have offered authorities on the subject from BOTH sides of the
aisle. (I haven't even yet mentioned what Cornel West had to say.) I
perceive nothing but denial from your comments or the grief of
illusions shattered. I've probably heard more Republicans say ditch
Bush (Bill Ruckelshaus and Russell Train two weeks ago) than
Democrats. I've probably registered more Republicans who want to kick
Bush out than Democrats who want to elect Kerry.

Hi Richard, you are starting the flames of issues not asked here, and doing
a boring job of it at that. It is impolite to make unsolicited replies to an
individual's email, so we punish the group for it. Proud to be part of that,
I'm not. You haven't read anything that most of us here haven't already or
couldn't if we wanted to. Whatever your education in political science is
(it was an 18 credit minor in college for me), you seem unaware that there
isn't a debatable difference between the Republican and Democratic Parties
today. Rhetoric aside, and that means ignoring the speakers you love to
reference as well as all pre-election babble, I'm going to offer that if you
want to debate something here, shift a thread with [OT} in the subject, and
then pick a topic you have real interest in, not some speaker/flavor of the
day that blew your skirt up on the radio.


One speaker offered he could respect Barry Goldwater who found the
neo-cons a bunch of effete hypocrites (they all come from the
left-wing if you weren't aware). The speaker offered Barry was a lone
wolf when he went against the establishment - now the Right Whiners
are a herd of sheep.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. No connection to anything,
stereotyping without factual reference or relevance, and closing with an
opinion you obviously like, but which differs with millions of people who
are well educated and very committed to understanding and explaining
conservative principles. Assuming you really desire to make a contribution
to solving America's problems, then knowing America's strengths, and how we
got here, is of course a prerequisite. I consider the choice of experts
which you consider quotable to indicate you are lacking in those
fundamentals, offering a weak attempt to impress others with your street
knowledge of the hacks-of-the day.


73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

73,
Jack Painter
Virginia Beach

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 19:27:38 -0400, "Jack Painter"
wrote:
doing a boring job of it at that

Hi Jack,

This is a curious complaint as I review your past correspondence. For
more than a week it constitutes basically non-antenna discussion with
a vengeance: The date format on should it be 9/11 or 11/9; firearms
and gun control for 7 out of 8 postings by you in "half-wave dipole in
the forest"; a lob against the school system; and 3 here in this and
the original thread.

Lately you seem to be quite bored with antennas. Others can compare
my choice of subjects responded to, and how well. To this point, one
nameless canuk takes issue and I note your absence in all of those
discussions. Should we continue with what Cornel West had to say? :-)

It is impolite to make unsolicited replies to an
individual's email, so we punish the group for it.
shows an odd reason to create your own topic. Further, your
statement, as intriguing as it is, doesn't make any sense on the face
of it.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. No connection to anything,

And one wonders how you can both complain of it, and simultaneously
offer so much of it in the same breath.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Jack Painter wrote:

(it was an 18 credit minor in college for me), you seem unaware that there
isn't a debatable difference between the Republican and Democratic Parties
today.

Jack, My opinion of you just went up by quite a bit!

But I would like a *candidate* that a *conservative* could vote for!!!!
Neocons just strike me as Liberals with bad tempers.

People argue Republican vs. Democrat like they do Coke vs. Pepsi. The
closer the products, the more shrill the arguments. And in the end,
despite all the sound and fury, they both taste like carbonated battery
acid.

- Mike KB3EIA -

"Mike Coslo" wrote
Jack Painter wrote:

(it was an 18 credit minor in college for me), you seem unaware that
there
isn't a debatable difference between the Republican and Democratic
Parties
today.

Jack, My opinion of you just went up by quite a bit!

Hi Mike, well my first 2 years of undergraduate *were* at Penn State!

But I would like a *candidate* that a *conservative* could vote for!!!!
Yes, we knew we were in trouble when Christine Todd Whitman said "It's my
party too".

Neocons just strike me as Liberals with bad tempers.
The Michael Moore syndrome?

People argue Republican vs. Democrat like they do Coke vs. Pepsi. The
closer the products, the more shrill the arguments. And in the end,
despite all the sound and fury, they both taste like carbonated battery
acid.

Check out Pat Buchanon's book "Death of the West". Then thank folks like
Richard that *want* to be conservative, but because their eyes suddenly open
to hypocrosies in Republican administrations, they blow their bugle of
reteat (from the *rear* of course) leaving us standing up on the front lines
alone. Meanwhile they aid and abet the enemy by leading attacks against us.
In truth, probably the last thing he really wants is to harm his country.
But definitely the least kind of person in the world you would want in a
foxhole with you!


- Mike KB3EIA -


Cheers,

Jack Painter
Virginia Beach VA

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:20:34 -0400, "Jack Painter"
wrote:

Then thank folks like Richard that *want* to be conservative

Hi Jack,

Still bored? :-)

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

"Richard Clark" wrote On Thu, 23 Sep 2004
23:20:34 -0400, "Jack Painter"
wrote:

Then thank folks like Richard that *want* to be conservative

Hi Jack,

Still bored? :-)

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Hi Richard, nope - and I'm actually erecting that center-fed inverted-L this
weekend for 2182+ coverage. The advice and help I have received from this
group (and especially from you) is appreciated. I picked up the materials
today at Radio Works in Portsmouth. They suggested I try a bob-tail curtain
if the L doesn't work out. I don't know anyone using that type of antenna on
a small scale ( we have a rather monstrous one at work, but it is designed
as a cloud-warmer, out to 300 miles coverage).

Jack

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 01:02:46 -0400, "Jack Painter"
wrote:


"Richard Clark" wrote On Thu, 23 Sep 2004
23:20:34 -0400, "Jack Painter"
wrote:

Then thank folks like Richard that *want* to be conservative

Hi Jack,

Still bored? :-)

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Hi Richard, nope - and I'm actually erecting that center-fed inverted-L this
weekend for 2182+ coverage. The advice and help I have received from this
group (and especially from you) is appreciated. I picked up the materials
today at Radio Works in Portsmouth. They suggested I try a bob-tail curtain
if the L doesn't work out. I don't know anyone using that type of antenna on
a small scale ( we have a rather monstrous one at work, but it is designed
as a cloud-warmer, out to 300 miles coverage).

Jack


Hi Jack,

Myself, I have just completed building a conventional inverted L.
Just moments from seeing how it plays as I pen this.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC