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![]() Does anyone know the paint color code (pantone?) or the name for the paint used on the MJF-259B? No, I haven't called or written MFJ yet because I'm lazy. I'm rebuilding yet another antenna analyzer that was almost destroyed by leaky alkaline batteries: http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/MFJ-259B-repair/20181105_222734.jpg I think I make it work again, but in its present condition, it looks really ugly. Some of the aluminum was sufficiently corroded that I might need some aluminum auto body filler before painting. If I can't find the proper touchup paint (or a spray can), then I'll probably just cover it in clear acrylic (Krylon) and be done with it. PCB top view: http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/MFJ-259B-repair/20181105_222750.jpg I have a few bad guesses as to what the black spots on the tuning capacitor might be. I'll probably need to sandpaper or wire brush the cap. PCB bottom view: http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/MFJ-259B-repair/20181105_222823.jpg The damaged area is mostly ground plane and should be easy to replace with iron-on copper tape. This is what it should look like: https://www.w8ji.com/images/MFJ259/259B%20align.jpg As usual on the older models, I expect to find the ribbon cable soldering to be mostly cold solder connections and 2 out of 4 input diodes to be blown. Incidentally, the owner of the MJF-259B has graciously allowed me to use it for an experiment. I plan to replace the 10 AA cell battery pack (15.0V) abomination with a 4 cell LiPo or LiIon battery packet (14.8V) and an external charger. I'm also looking into a replacement LCD display that has backlighting. I'll post the results when it's done and hopefully working. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On 06/11/2018 07:29, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Incidentally, the owner of the MJF-259B has graciously allowed me to use it for an experiment. I plan to replace the 10 AA cell battery pack (15.0V) abomination with a 4 cell LiPo or LiIon battery packet (14.8V) and an external charger. I'm also looking into a replacement LCD display that has backlighting. I'll post the results when it's done and hopefully working. ======= Li-ion and LiPo cells are nominally 3.7 V but when fully charged 4.2 V, hence 4 cells in series would initially give 16.8 V Question : Would 16.8 V not be too high for the MFJ 259B ? The above cells should NOT be discharged below 3.0 Volt in order not to loose capacity . It means the voltage of the pack should NOT drop below 12.0V . I assume you intend charging the above cells outside the analyser ,otherwise you would have to include a max voltage circuit for each cell when charging the cells in series. These circuit boards can be cheaply bought from Chinese online retailers , but highly like there is NOT enough space for the 4 cells + the circuit board inside the analyser enclosure. Good Luck with the repairs Frank , EI7KS |
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On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 22:48:42 +0000, wicklowham
wrote: On 06/11/2018 07:29, Jeff Liebermann wrote: Incidentally, the owner of the MJF-259B has graciously allowed me to use it for an experiment. I plan to replace the 10 AA cell battery pack (15.0V) abomination with a 4 cell LiPo or LiIon battery packet (14.8V) and an external charger. I'm also looking into a replacement LCD display that has backlighting. I'll post the results when it's done and hopefully working. ======= Li-ion and LiPo cells are nominally 3.7 V but when fully charged 4.2 V, hence 4 cells in series would initially give 16.8 V Question : Would 16.8 V not be too high for the MFJ 259B ? Yep. See Pg 4 of the manual: http://www.ges.cz/sheets/m/mfj-259b.pdf Voltage must be more than 11 volts, and preferably less than 16 volts, when the unit is on and operating. Maximum "sleep mode" and "OFF" voltage (when the power supply is lightly loaded by this unit) is 18 volts. The supply must be reasonably well filtered. The supply must not have a grounded positive lead! The MFJ-259B can be used with an external low voltage dc supply’s (MFJ-1315 AC adapter recommended). The ideal supply voltage is 14.5 volts dc, but the unit will function with voltages between 11 and 18 volts. The current demand is 150 mA maximum. (Be sure you read the battery instructions if you use also install batteries!) So, basically the MFJ-259B will run on 11 - 16V. To double check, the typical AA alkaline cell is at 100% at 1.55V and mostly dead at about 1.2V giving a range of 12 - 15V for running off the 10 cell stock battery pack. Meanwhile, if I use 4ea 18650 LiIon cells, I get a voltage range of 4.2V for fully charged, and about 3.5V where I want to stop. For 4 cells, that's 14 - 16.8V. Not a perfect fit for 11 - 16V but a diode or two in series with the battery pack should work. Or, I could take the easy way out and use fewer cells and a boost regulator to deliver exactly 14VDC. Something like this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/302491647962 Lots of other options including some boards that integrate a USB 5V charger. The above cells should NOT be discharged below 3.0 Volt in order not to loose capacity . It means the voltage of the pack should NOT drop below 12.0V . Actually, I would quit at about 3.5V just to be safe. If I get lavish, I'll add a 4S (4 cell) BMS (battery management system) like one of these: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=4S+bms To make things really complexicated, I want to include a balance charger connector, so I can equalize the voltage on all 4 cells using one of the balance chargers commonly used by the RC (radio control) hobbyists. https://hobbyking.com/en_us/batteries-chargers/chargers/ac-dc.html Or, I could just use the boost converter idea, run it off of one LiIon 18650 cell, eliminate all the complexicated BMS and equalize stuff. The MFJ259B only draws about 150ma giving a 2 A-hr 18650 cell: 2 A-hr / 0.15A = 13.3 hr runtime. Of course, with junk Chinese cells, about half that, or less. Or, with a single LiPo cell, I could use a cell phone charger. Decisions, decisions, decisions. I assume you intend charging the above cells outside the analyser ,otherwise you would have to include a max voltage circuit for each cell when charging the cells in series. These circuit boards can be cheaply bought from Chinese online retailers , but highly like there is NOT enough space for the 4 cells + the circuit board inside the analyser enclosure. See above on equalizing charging. That usually fails badly with a mixed assortment of Chinese cells. There is PLENTY of space inside. Remember, the 10 cell AA pack is going to disappear. At this point, I have no idea if I'll use an internal or external charger. Much depends on how much butchery, err... modifications need to be made to the power switching and wiring circuitry. Good Luck with the repairs I may need some luck. I cleaned up the mess on the PCB as best I could last night and applied power. Nothing on the display. A quick continuity check showed that the battery wires were open. Replacing those showed that both the on/off switch and the external PS connector were not working. To be continued in a day or two. Frank , EI7KS -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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