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December 10th 04, 03:33 AM
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#12
December 10th 04, 04:40 AM
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"Allodoxaphobia" wrote in message ... On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 20:49:10 GMT, hath writ: I am finding that WindowsXP is allowing 20 cookies (plus other stuff ) a day delete Ok,Ok,Ok e.t.c Since Mike gave specific directions as to what to do to get the job done so I am leaning towards most of what he suggests ( don't under stand the proxy server bit tho). Thanks to everybody tho for their inputs including those you gave a better choice to the one that I am leaning towards. Need to get back to antennas or swr before the net policeman scolds me for using this net for unofficial postings Best Regards. Regarding operation.. they vacuumed all the parts that was left of my fragile gall bladder after it crumpled .Unfortunately they got nosy and took a sliver of my liver among other things and are suggesting that I must be some sort of hidden alcoholic ( I am teatotal but they take some convincing, tho I do admit to a glass of wine for toasting at a wedding some months ago) Maybe we can attribute the internal mayhem to this laptop and Windows XP, sperm count doesn't matter now. Art How many times do you have to be told? Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox :-) The other recommendation, of course is _linux_ ! I've been nearly 100% on linux here since migrating away from OS/2 over a year ago. I went to OS/2 back in 1992 after getting hit with the "Stoned" PC virus -- the olde, floppy disk boot sector style -- on Windows 3.1. I've never looked back, and never regreted it. Oh, yes -- almost forgot : Firefox! gl Jonesy -- | Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | linux | Gunnison, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | OS/2 __ | 7,703' -- 2,345m | config.com | DM68mn SK |
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#13
December 10th 04, 05:50 AM
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I lost confidence in netscape when aol took it over.
Try mozilla firefox (it is free) or Avant browser (also free) --- also download the free firewall (zoneAlarm) from zone labs and-- free antivirus software (AVG) and you can replace microsoft office with OpenOffice .org and if you can find some scrap wire, we can talk about a free antenna :-) The Avant browser is really a good one - maybe even better than Mozilla Firefox - Mosaic, though may not suite your needs. but by all means - anything but IE --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.807 / Virus Database: 549 - Release Date: 12/7/2004 |
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December 10th 04, 05:57 AM
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How many times do you have to be told? Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox *********** But what do you think of ** Firefox** ************** I like firefox, too - but have you tried 'Avant' ? you may be pleasantly surprised - but oops - it may not work with linux ********** and mozilla also has a good mail client / newsgroup reader (Thunderbird) ********** :-) The other recommendation, of course is _linux_ ! I've been nearly 100% on linux here since migrating away from OS/2 over a year ago. I went to OS/2 back in 1992 after getting hit with the "Stoned" PC virus -- the olde, floppy disk boot sector style -- on Windows 3.1. I've never looked back, and never regreted it. Oh, yes -- almost forgot : Firefox! gl Jonesy --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.807 / Virus Database: 549 - Release Date: 12/7/2004 |
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December 10th 04, 07:41 AM
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Richard Clark wrote:
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 22:29:31 GMT, " wrote: and after a while checked how much junk had unknowingly been attached to it, one of which had slowed me down till it shut down completely! I only have to look at your headers to see you use Outlook Express which is a piece of trash. It has the worst reputation as being a virus whore. No, it's a TOXIC whore . . ! . . . This may not be a virus (as the ISP certifies it is not) but rather a Phising link. No problem, my mail reader is not going to run it, open it, or do anything without my permission. I simply trash that stuff. Been doing that for 10 years with either Eudora or Agent . . . I've been running Eudora since Win 3.1.1 days, beautiful, just plain clean, simple and to the point beautiful. Even though it doesn't have many of the bells & whistles Outlook has. I don't need Microsloth's autodialer, etc. Since you're running Agent maybe you can answer a question Richard. Backgrounder: 'Wayback I used Free Agent which worked like a champ. In those days I accessed USENET via my ISP's paid subscription to some second-tier USENET servers. My ISP is a litle dialup/DSL store-front operation here in the neighborhood. Under circumstances and for reasons long lost in my brainbone I've been accessing the newsgroups via Google instead of his service for a number of years. Which is getting *really* annoying. In the meanwhile my ISP dropped his old USENET subsciption by virtue of non-use by his customers which leaves me dangling. I'm very inclined to get back to using Agent even if I have to pay for it (sob!). How, exactly Richard, do you access the USENET groups with Agent? 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC w3rv |
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December 10th 04, 08:35 AM
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On 9 Dec 2004 22:41:53 -0800, wrote:
I'm very inclined to get back to using Agent even if I have to pay for it (sob!). How, exactly Richard, do you access the USENET groups with Agent? Hi Kelly, The folks at Forte (agent) are also in the business of providing their own premium news feeds over the net for as low as $3 a month that would easily satisfy a text based interest. Visit: http://www.forteinc.com/apn/index.php You could still, easily get by on their current FreeAgent. Very robust and still cheap for the full featured version. Access comes via Comcast. This means I have to come in through the connection. I also have an ISP who provides me a Primary Shell for one of my several Web sites, and I can get into their News Feed over the net. My Primary Shell "can" cost as low as $7 a month if you pay by credit card in 6 month blocks or you can get a modem connection for $16 a month (in 6 month blocks), anyway visit: http://www.eskimo.com/ I pay much more, of course because I'm on high speed (not to speak of also having three web sites to support) - but then, its my work. I'm not sure if that answers your question as to "how" I use it. Their help function answers that, but if you have configuration questions I can certainly help - I did that for Walt a couple years back. He sometimes curses Agent, but he isn't plagued by virus. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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December 10th 04, 03:36 PM
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 00:42:15 GMT, Richard Clark
wrote: | |For anyone seriously interested in the mortar between their firewall |bricks, go to: |http://grc.com/default.htm |and page down to the heading "Your Three Musketeers" |There are at least a half dozen security checks there that can inspect |your machine for back doors and potential hacker access. Very simple |software, loads fast, runs fast, and says quite plainly in English, |"You are Safe" or "You are in Trouble." McAfee VirusScan thought "I was in trouble" when I tried to download one of these. I'll stick to my oooold versions of Eudora, Free Agent and Firefox. |
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December 10th 04, 05:52 PM
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 07:36:50 -0700, Wes Stewart
wrote: McAfee VirusScan thought "I was in trouble" when I tried to download one of these. Hi Wes, I gave up on Virus software years ago too. They always seem to be one infection behind. The only time I got the sniffles would have had the bug waltzing right by it undetected. If that's the level of competence I can get for $50 a year, I wonder what it would have cost for a package to have caught that last bug that got me. Anyway, those utilities offered by grc.com disinfect the system by strengthening the natural defenses instead of trying to look at every byte coming in the pipe. Virus-ware can be cpu hogs - or at least they were when I sampled them a long time ago. When I watch my friends grow moss waiting for their systems to boot beneath their load, I must say that my bias remains confirmed. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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December 10th 04, 11:51 PM
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#20
December 11th 04, 02:30 AM
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Allodoxaphobia wrote:
Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox Firefox :-) The other recommendation, of course is _linux_ ! I've been nearly 100% on linux here since migrating away from OS/2 over a year ago. I went to OS/2 back in 1992 after getting hit with the "Stoned" PC virus -- the olde, floppy disk boot sector style -- on Windows 3.1. I've never looked back, and never regreted it. Oh, yes -- almost forgot : Firefox! gl Jonesy I agree with Jonesy to a great extent. I am the security guy, amongst other things, at our ISP, so here's my short list on how to keep your PC _YOUR_ PC 1 Don't run a Microsoft OS 2 Don't run a Microsoft OS. 3 If you must run Windows, don't use IE or Outlook (or Express), no exceptions. Eevr. The suggestion on permanently blocking IE with the firewall sounds good, I hadn't heard of that one, but I still wouldn't use IE on anything but a machine with no network connection. 4 See rule #3. 5 No really, reread rule #3. I'm very serious here. 6 If you insist on using Windows use Mozilla, Firefox, Lynx, Opera, or any of the other freeware or open source browsers. For mail use Eudora, already mentioned, or Pegasus, my favotite. I have no knowledge of Agent, so I can't comment. 7 Install a decent antivirus suite, such as McAfee, Norton, Dr Solomon, etc. 8 Install an anti spyware, such as SpyBot etc. 9 Or just don't run a Microsoft OS All in all, the group is very much right on point on this subject. tom K0TAR |
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