Interesting.
So, do you still use Windows with a replacement for Outlook Express
together with the link that you pointed to or do you pay for extra computor
protection?
I must admit that I thought everything was as one should expect until I used
the free ' adware' to check how clean or dirty the computor was and I was
really shocked. Fortunately with the help of an inserted disc I am able to
run my antenna programs in what I see as a DOS emulator which allows me to
use high speed processing without the fear
of outside interference and slow down. I have heard that Netscape has its
problems but does not have enough useage
to attract bad guys and commercial collectors. Tho I have done computor
programming in Fortran and the like in the old days when we used punched
tape I must admit to being totally illiterate when computors changed over to
pre caned programming to which I turned up my nose too, only to find I was
quickly left behind and not adaptable to change.
Regards
Art

"Richard Clark" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 22:29:31 GMT, "
wrote:

Yup. Heard on a computor discussion that XP was as open as a barn door
and
over time
the computor got slower and slower.

Hi Art,

I hear that so often now.

They also stated that Netscape
apparently not
subject that much to attacks

Netscape has its own problems, but not like the MS suite.

Didn't take much notice at the time until I
bought a 3 Gig processor
and after a while checked how much junk had unknowingly been attached to
it,
one of which
had slowed me down till it shut down completely!

I only have to look at your headers to see you use Outlook Express
which is a piece of trash. It has the worst reputation as being a
virus whore.

I wouldn't be surprised if this newsnet did add junk every time you
linked
to it.

News groups might be mined for emails for subsequent Spam, but there
is nothing in the NNTP (protocol) that would allow anyone to attach
anything to your computer. This kind of stuff comes automatically as
a customer enhancement by MS for IE and OE users and arrives by email
or through visits on the Web. There are no trojan horses, viruses,
cookies, advertising (pop up windows that is, there is still Spam of
course) or spyware that can infect your machine through participating
in newsgroup activity.

I've gotten what looks like a potential virus sent to me because they
got my name here. WAMU frequently is part of the subject heading or
in the message. This may not be a virus (as the ISP certifies it is
not) but rather a Phising link. No problem, my mail reader is not
going to run it, open it, or do anything without my permission. I
simply trash that stuff. Been doing that for 10 years with either
Eudora or Agent and never been burnt except once (trusted a friend) -
then fixed that the next day after the infected Comcast ISP servers
stopped thrashing themselves to death. Yup, they were using MS
servers.

For anyone seriously interested in the mortar between their firewall
bricks, go to:
http://grc.com/default.htm
and page down to the heading "Your Three Musketeers"
There are at least a half dozen security checks there that can inspect
your machine for back doors and potential hacker access. Very simple
software, loads fast, runs fast, and says quite plainly in English,
"You are Safe" or "You are in Trouble."

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 01:10:13 GMT, "
wrote:

Interesting.
So, do you still use Windows with a replacement for Outlook Express
together with the link that you pointed to or do you pay for extra computor
protection?

I abandoned the home versions of Windows long long ago (I use Win2000
Pro). I got it pretty cheap as a computer upgrade, all I had to do
was buy some hardware to qualify, and I bought the hard disk that I
have it running on right now, in the old system (just added it as
drive two, and use the original drive for storage).

I have NEVER used Outlook Express. I bought Agent after using Free
Agent for a year. I wanted to combine my News reader with a Mail
reader that had very good filters. Those filters, once I trained
them, act like bug zappers and automatically trash Spam. I have 8
filters that steer acceptable email to different folders; I have 10
filters that deletes porn; I have 4 filters that ignore odds and ends
that I can look at if I want (but ends up in the trash anyway). Agent
is $35 and I've been using it for 8 years.

I am also using Firefox now (it lit up in seconds where Netscape
stumbled along). I also use Agnitum Outpost Firewall (free version).
It always lets me know when some piece of trash wants to call home. I
say no, and then take out the trash.

I must admit that I thought everything was as one should expect until I used
the free ' adware' to check how clean or dirty the computor was and I was
really shocked. Fortunately with the help of an inserted disc I am able to
run my antenna programs in what I see as a DOS emulator which allows me to
use high speed processing without the fear
of outside interference and slow down. I have heard that Netscape has its
problems but does not have enough useage
to attract bad guys and commercial collectors.

That has nothing to do with it. It is the "features" of IE and OE
that are the back doors to the system. Do you want to share your
printer with the world? MS thinks you do, and has designed this into
their OS as a special feature for your "benefit."

Tho I have done computor
programming in Fortran and the like in the old days when we used punched
tape I must admit to being totally illiterate when computors changed over to
pre caned programming to which I turned up my nose too, only to find I was
quickly left behind and not adaptable to change.

It just runs faster. Being bigger means no one person really
understands it all. When the operating systems were 15,000 bytes big,
you could figure it out in a weekend. Multiply that by a million
weekends. Only Chinese teenagers have that kind of patience.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC