When will a wire radiate?
Can we make an oscillator circuit to radiate by simply connecting its
output to a long wire ?
Where can I get suitable study material on net about the topic?

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When will a wire radiate?

Whenever there is an alternating signal on it. The amount of radiation
that is detected will depend on the strength of the original signal and
the "efficiency" of the wire relative to the length of the wire in
relation to the applied frequency. If the wire is shielded, the
radiation will be much lower, perhaps to nearly undetectable limits
depending upon the type of shielding and the frequency involved. Yes,
the wires in your house radiate a signal at 60 Hz (60 cycles per second)
if you are in the United States or another country that uses the 60Hz AC
standard. Much of Europe uses a 50Hz standard. A wire with a DC current
flowing through it develops a magnetic field, but most people don't
characterize this as radiation, because most people tend to define
radiation at a specific frequency of interest for a particular
measurement.

A radiating wire is essentially an antenna. Typically, in popular use,
wires or equivalent metallic structures are not automatically considered
antennas unless they are intended to transmit or receive a specific
frequency range. This tends to increase confusion for people learning
about electromagnetic radiation.


Can we make an oscillator circuit to radiate by simply connecting its
output to a long wire ?

It already radiates, unless it is in a shielded box or enclosure. Of
course, the amount of radiation is typically pretty small unless it is a
very high power oscillator. Hooking a long wire to it may detune it and
cause the frequency of the oscillator to change, unless there is a buffer
amplifier between the oscillator and the wire. Again, the amount of
radiated signal will depend on the initial strength of the signal, and
the efficiency of the wire relative to the length of the wire in relation
to the frequency of the oscillator.


Where can I get suitable study material on net about the topic?

You might try searching for "rf fundamentals" or similar topics, which
will provide information about radiation in the Radio Frequency (RF)
regions. Other frequencies follow the same principles, but as long as it
is an alternating field, though the name may be different, essentially
the same effect is produced. As the frequency increases, there are some
interesting propagation effects (like, the received signal strength is
different for higher frequencies of the same power, given similar
distances, and reflections are more apparent at higher frequencies than
low ones, etc.,). There are tons of books about radiation in
relationship to antennas, so searching for "antenna fundamentals" or such
may also bring a bunch of information to light.

Good Luck
--Rick AH7H

Can we make an oscillator circuit to radiate by simply connecting its
output to a long wire ?

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Congratulations - you have just re-invented the radio transmitter! ;o)

Burn the witch!!


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Congratulations - you have just re-invented the radio transmitter! ;o)

Thanks for your compliment

Your
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Lots of Thanks
And I know that your are unlike the GUY below you......
Can you please be more precise about the web resources ?

Jean

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When will a wire radiate?
Can we make an oscillator circuit to radiate by simply connecting its
output to a long wire ?
Where can I get suitable study material on net about the topic?

I know it's a little old-fashioned, but I would recommend going to a
library and finding books about this topic. A personal favorite of
mine is Ronold King's "Antennas" chapter in King, Mimno and Wing,
"Transmission Lines, Antennas and Waveguides." Early in that chapter,
he discusses "radiation" from wires...really, what happens in distant
conductors because of something that happened in one conductor.

You may also be able to find good things on the web...try a web search
using words like "antenna" and "radiation".

But above all else, be sure to use your head and really understand
what you read; it can be easy to read more into something than is
really there, and you can be misled by false information if you don't
keep your wits about you.

Cheers,
Tom

Rick Frazier wrote:
A radiating wire is essentially an antenna. Typically, in popular use,
wires or equivalent metallic structures are not automatically considered
antennas unless they are intended to transmit or receive a specific
frequency range. This tends to increase confusion for people learning
about electromagnetic radiation.

I'd also add that I think it's important to point out to people that
quasi-static analysis leads you to regular electric and magnetic field
coupling (e.g., capacitive couplers and transformers) and that -- at least
in my opinion -- such pickup is not to be attributed to an 'antenna.' That
is, antennas are intended to transmit or receive far field radiation, even
though of course it's not like a wire can differentiate where its signal is
going to or coming from.

It's a pet peeve of mine when people talk about noise induced in systems
start calling everything in sight an 'antenna' even when there's nothing
involved that's a large fraction of the wavelength of the signals in
question... technically perhaps they're correct, but it doesn't help much
in trying to combat the problem.

---Joel Kolstad

Joel Kolstad wrote:
"It`s a pet peeve of mine when people tak about noise induced in systems
start calling everything in sight an "antenna" even when there is
nothing involved that is a large fraction of a wavelength of the signal
in question."

Someone needs a word for something that radiates or intercepts r-f. No
need to distinguish between launchers and receptors. They are all
launchers regardless of intentions. Every receiving antenna re-radiates
at least 1/2 of everything it receives.

Could call an antenna a radiator but radiator has 8 letters instead of
7. Aerial has only 6 letters.

An antenna does not have to be big. It can be as small as an "elemental
doublet".

Terman says about an antenna on page 864 of his 1955 edition:
"This (elemental doublet) consists of a length "delta l" that is short
compared with the wavelength "lambda", and which is assumed to have such
large capacitance areas associated with each end that the current
throughout the doublet everywhere has the same I."

The definition above is for "the simplest wire radiator or antenna ---."

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

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When will a wire radiate?
Can we make an oscillator circuit to radiate by
simply connecting its output to a long wire ?

Yes, you certainly can.
If you place a loop circuit that is resonant in an area where it can
absorb energy it will then oscillate and thus will radiate. If you
place same circuit close to a normal dipole the circuit will take some
of the energy from the dipole via coupling such that the circuit will
oscillate and radiate at its resonant frequency or at a frequency
determined by the particular coefficient of coupling.
Please note that I am an amateur and suggest you obtain coroberation
from one of the many experts at hand.
Regards
Art

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